From sadhak001 at gmail.com  Tue Sep  1 15:51:45 2015
From: sadhak001 at gmail.com (Mani Sarkar)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 16:51:45 +0100
Subject: Unsafe update, read safely ;)
Message-ID: <CAGHtMWntpw5QDB1PoQqZfSnYPPUAyLCWn981X2oRFf7nKHOkhQ@mail.gmail.com>

Nice post on Unsafe by Chris from Hazelcast:

*A Post-Apocalyptic sun.misc.Unsafe World *
http://www.infoq.com/articles/A-Post-Apocalyptic-sun.misc.Unsafe-World

Cheers,
Mani

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From sadhak001 at gmail.com  Tue Sep  1 16:20:03 2015
From: sadhak001 at gmail.com (Mani Sarkar)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 17:20:03 +0100
Subject: Project proposal: Shenandoah
Message-ID: <CAGHtMWnpRTSe7wEPLZaNawCALrOZL=2kOsrUCX+cVMoSqs1g7w@mail.gmail.com>

Something nice from the Hotspot world:
http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/discuss/2015-July/003760.html

What is Shenandoah ?
A couple of posts about it -
http://www.jclarity.com/2014/02/19/shenandoah-a-new-low-pause-garbage-collection-algorithm-for-the-java-hotspot-jvm/
and
http://www.infoworld.com/article/2888189/java/red-hat-shenandoah-boosts-java-garbage-collection.html

Cheers,
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From sadhak001 at gmail.com  Tue Sep  1 16:22:31 2015
From: sadhak001 at gmail.com (Mani Sarkar)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 17:22:31 +0100
Subject: Project proposal: Shenandoah
In-Reply-To: <CAGHtMWnpRTSe7wEPLZaNawCALrOZL=2kOsrUCX+cVMoSqs1g7w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGHtMWnpRTSe7wEPLZaNawCALrOZL=2kOsrUCX+cVMoSqs1g7w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGHtMWntcdz0yERBASQA1R1_EJ3Rn0BnZ3oyQK4p5ikA7dviGA@mail.gmail.com>

Meant to share this as well - its now sponsored:
http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/discuss/2015-August/003767.html

Cheers,
Mani

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Mani Sarkar <sadhak001 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Something nice from the Hotspot world:
> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/discuss/2015-July/003760.html
>
> What is Shenandoah ?
> A couple of posts about it -
> http://www.jclarity.com/2014/02/19/shenandoah-a-new-low-pause-garbage-collection-algorithm-for-the-java-hotspot-jvm/
> and
>
> http://www.infoworld.com/article/2888189/java/red-hat-shenandoah-boosts-java-garbage-collection.html
>
> Cheers,
> Mani
>
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From jaromir.hamala at gmail.com  Tue Sep  1 16:39:53 2015
From: jaromir.hamala at gmail.com (Jaromir Hamala)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 19:39:53 +0300
Subject: Project proposal: Shenandoah
In-Reply-To: <CAGHtMWntcdz0yERBASQA1R1_EJ3Rn0BnZ3oyQK4p5ikA7dviGA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGHtMWnpRTSe7wEPLZaNawCALrOZL=2kOsrUCX+cVMoSqs1g7w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGHtMWntcdz0yERBASQA1R1_EJ3Rn0BnZ3oyQK4p5ikA7dviGA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMxXA6-rwnKEB-qZiFf9WHkP=2FMi7c1ktP6QA+++m6tJzbjJg@mail.gmail.com>

Wow, that's a great news, thanks for sharing!

Cheers,
Jaromir

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 7:22 PM, Mani Sarkar <sadhak001 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Meant to share this as well - its now sponsored:
> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/discuss/2015-August/003767.html
>
> Cheers,
> Mani
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Mani Sarkar <sadhak001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Something nice from the Hotspot world:
> > http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/discuss/2015-July/003760.html
> >
> > What is Shenandoah ?
> > A couple of posts about it -
> >
> http://www.jclarity.com/2014/02/19/shenandoah-a-new-low-pause-garbage-collection-algorithm-for-the-java-hotspot-jvm/
> > and
> >
> >
> http://www.infoworld.com/article/2888189/java/red-hat-shenandoah-boosts-java-garbage-collection.html
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Mani
> >
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From sadhak001 at gmail.com  Tue Sep  1 16:48:48 2015
From: sadhak001 at gmail.com (Mani Sarkar)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 17:48:48 +0100
Subject: Project proposal: Shenandoah
In-Reply-To: <CAMxXA6-rwnKEB-qZiFf9WHkP=2FMi7c1ktP6QA+++m6tJzbjJg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGHtMWnpRTSe7wEPLZaNawCALrOZL=2kOsrUCX+cVMoSqs1g7w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGHtMWntcdz0yERBASQA1R1_EJ3Rn0BnZ3oyQK4p5ikA7dviGA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMxXA6-rwnKEB-qZiFf9WHkP=2FMi7c1ktP6QA+++m6tJzbjJg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGHtMWkEF1O1YcMBRB5ULFWqF2EsYxyJmV=BJ8ADzy-M=vZc4g@mail.gmail.com>

Glad it has created some excitement, also read this -
http://www.jclarity.com/2014/03/12/shenandoah-experiment-1-will-it-run-pcgen/

Although a bit dated, a good incentive to do your own research and share
with us.

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Jaromir Hamala <jaromir.hamala at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Wow, that's a great news, thanks for sharing!
>
> Cheers,
> Jaromir
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 7:22 PM, Mani Sarkar <sadhak001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Meant to share this as well - its now sponsored:
>> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/discuss/2015-August/003767.html
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mani
>>
>>
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From cnewland at chrisnewland.com  Tue Sep  1 20:57:13 2015
From: cnewland at chrisnewland.com (Chris Newland)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:57:13 +0100
Subject: OpenJFX in a post-Jigsaw world
In-Reply-To: <41253f9b7bc58f5db9f0516a92f7f342.squirrel@excalibur.xssl.net>
References: <395bc110e4fc7fc5ea34aee8432e8934.squirrel@excalibur.xssl.net>
	<41253f9b7bc58f5db9f0516a92f7f342.squirrel@excalibur.xssl.net>
Message-ID: <d14ddf3b450e43282cfe7dc2052fada2.squirrel@excalibur.xssl.net>

Update:

I enquired about OpenJFX / OpenJDK integration on jigsaw-dev and received
the answer that OpenJFX will be modularised and integrated with the JDK in
time for JDK9.

http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jigsaw-dev/2015-September/004460.html

For me this is a positive development for JavaFX.

Fyi, the JDK9/openZip issue was accepted as
https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8134725

Regards,

Chris

On Thu, August 20, 2015 08:51, Chris Newland wrote:
> CC'd Rory as this affects JITWatch running on OpenJDK9/OpenJFX (quality
> outreach).
>
> I've filed a bug (Review ID: JI-9023645) regarding OpenJFX "overlay"
> builds (created using "gradle openZip") because they can't be overlaid onto
> a JDK9 (jigsaw) layout as they unpack into a "jre" folder.
>
> Phil Race mentioned that post-jigsaw the JDK structure should be
> considered opaque and tools will need to exist for "adding features" such
> as OpenJFX to OpenJDK.
>
> I'm going to follow this up on jigsaw-dev and will report back anything
> interesting.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Wed, August 19, 2015 08:28, Chris Newland wrote:
>
>> There's been some discussion on the London Java Community Slack chat
>> about JavaFX with OpenJDK so I made some enquiries over on openjfx-dev
>> and here is the Oracle response regarding OpenJFX / Jigsaw.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------- Original Message
>> ----------------------------
>> Subject: Re: OpenJFX / JDK 9 questions
>> From:    "Kevin Rushforth" <kevin.rushforth at oracle.com>
>> Date:    Tue, August 18, 2015 23:23
>> To:      "John C. Turnbull" <ozemale at ozemail.com.au>
>> Cc:      cnewland at chrisnewland.com
>> openjfx-dev at openjdk.java.net
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> --
>> -
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris' questions are more about the build environment. To answer some
>> of the specific points.
>>
>>> Longer term, will OpenJFX ever become a sub-project or module in the
>>>
>>>
>> OpenJDK
>>
>>
>>> repository?
>>>
>>
>> Very likely, yes. Long term we would like the openjfx "rt" repository
>> to be a "jfx" repo in the openjdk forest. This is not planned for 9,
>> though. Probably for JDK 10 (but perhaps could be done in a 9 update
>> release).
>>
>>> Is there any plan for a unified build system for OpenJDK and OpenJFX
>>> to produce a binary that runs JavaFX out of the box?
>>>
>>
>> Some of the Jigsaw work is heading in that direction. The current plan
>> is for a JDK configure option to take a set of (pre-built) JavaFX
>> modules and import them into the JDK build, as opposed to the current
>> "overlay the
>> javafx bits at the end" approach that JDK 8 uses.
>>
>>> Currently the gradle openZip method makes it easy to create builds
>>> that unpack into OpenJDK / Zulu JDK but this assumes a pre-Jigsaw
>>> (JRE)
>>>
>> structure
>>> and doesn't work with JDK9. Shall I submit a bug?
>>
>> We are in the process of making major changes for Jigsaw, so anything
>> we do for the "openZip" task will be a stop-gap until that work is
>> complete. Go ahead and file the bug, though. If nothing else, it will
>> serve as a reminder to test the build with OpenJDK + OpenJFX (without
>> either of the closed bits).
>>
>> -- Kevin
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: openjfx-dev [mailto:openjfx-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net] On
>>>
>>>
>> Behalf Of
>>
>>
>>> Chris Newland
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 10:07 PM
>>> To: openjfx-dev at openjdk.java.net
>>> Subject: OpenJFX / JDK 9 questions
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please could someone briefly explain the changes to OpenJFX under
>>> JDK9
>>> /
>>> modularisation / jigsaw?
>>>
>>> I've been trying to answer some questions about this in the London
>>> Java
>>> Community (JUG) and have added 8u40 stable binaries to my OpenJFX
>>> build server as that was requested: http://108.61.191.178/
>>>
>>> I understand work is already happening under JEP253 to sort out the
>>> public APIs.
>>>
>>>
>>> Longer term, will OpenJFX ever become a sub-project or module in the
>>>
>>>
>> OpenJDK
>>
>>
>>> repository?
>>>
>>> Is there any plan for a unified build system for OpenJDK and OpenJFX
>>> to produce a binary that runs JavaFX out of the box?
>>>
>>> Currently the gradle openZip method makes it easy to create builds
>>> that unpack into OpenJDK / Zulu JDK but this assumes a pre-Jigsaw
>>> (JRE)
>>>
>> structure
>>> and doesn't work with JDK9. Shall I submit a bug?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>



From dalibor.topic at oracle.com  Wed Sep  2 15:06:37 2015
From: dalibor.topic at oracle.com (Dalibor Topic)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 17:06:37 +0200
Subject: Fwd: Quality Outreach Update
In-Reply-To: <55E70DAF.50703@oracle.com>
References: <55E70DAF.50703@oracle.com>
Message-ID: <55E7107D.8060104@oracle.com>

Hi team,

Since the Quality Outreach effort 'graduated' from the Adoption Group to the Quality Group, I've left its statistics out from the Quarterly Reports of our Group. Rory has started to publish updates on it on the quality-discuss mailing list.

Thanks to all the testers, those filing issues and those who didn't find any (yet;) - keep up the good work, and tell your friends!  

cheers,
dalibor topic

-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	Quality Outreach Update
Date: 	Wed, 2 Sep 2015 15:54:39 +0100
From: 	Rory O'Donnell <rory.odonnell at oracle.com>
To: 	quality-discuss at openjdk.java.net <quality-discuss at openjdk.java.net>




Hi All,

We moved the Quality Outreach to the Quality Group earlier this year,here is a summary of the Bug logging activities over the past six months.

We now have 48 FOSS Projects and their developers listed on the Wiki <https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/quality/Quality+Outreach> page, they have been regularly contacted to announce the availability of Early Access (EA) builds based on various OpenJDK Projects, and encouraged to report back any issues they found during their testing.

Developers from 10 of the 48 participating projects filed 23 new issues in the JDK Bug System, more information in the table below.


Priority 	Fixed 	In progress 	Duplicate 	Open
	Total
P1
	0
	0
	0
	0
	0
P2
	7
	2
	1
	0
	10
P3
	3
	8
	0
	1
	12
P4
	0
	1
	0
	0
	1
Total Unique Issues
	10
	11
	1
	1
	23


Components
	P1
	P2
	P3
	P4
	Total
hotspot
	0
	5
	2
	1
	8
core-libs
	0
	2
	3
	0
	5
tools
	0
	3
	4
	0
	7
xml
	0
	0
	1
	0
	1
client-libs
	0
	0
	1
	0
	1
javafx
	0
	0
	1
	0
	1
Total Unique Issues 	0
	10
	12
	1
	23



Raised in version 	Fixed 	In Progress 	Duplicate
	Open
	Total
JDK 9 EA builds
	9
	9
	1
	0
	19
JDK 8 EA updates
	1
	2
	0
	1
	4
Total Unique Issues 	10
	11
	1
	1
	23


The following testers who submitted significant bug reports deserve special mention:
The following early testers who submitted significant bug reports deserve special mention:
The following early testers who submitted significant bug reports deserve special mention:
The following early testers who submitted significant bug reports deserve special menti
on:

  * Apache Lucene
  * JaCoCo
  * Apache Groovy 
  * Hazelcast
  * Apache Ant.

Valuable reports were also received from :

  * Gradle
  * Jitwatch
  * AssertJ
  * Apache JMeter
  * ElasticSearch

I expect to send the next Quality Outreach update in 6 months from now. This info will be posted on
the Wiki <https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/quality/Quality+Outreach> page in the coming days.

Rgds, Rory

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From martijnverburg at gmail.com  Wed Sep  2 20:34:00 2015
From: martijnverburg at gmail.com (Martijn Verburg)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 21:34:00 +0100
Subject: Quality Outreach Update
In-Reply-To: <55E7107D.8060104@oracle.com>
References: <55E70DAF.50703@oracle.com>
	<55E7107D.8060104@oracle.com>
Message-ID: <CAP7YuATLqkY0epkEd_S1-aVoP5mTFq2_AOxg6VzmZg6Z-7WMJA@mail.gmail.com>

Hey all,

Great result!

Cheers,
Martijn

On 2 September 2015 at 16:06, Dalibor Topic <dalibor.topic at oracle.com>
wrote:

> Hi team,
>
> Since the Quality Outreach effort 'graduated' from the Adoption Group to
> the Quality Group, I've left its statistics out from the Quarterly Reports
> of our Group. Rory has started to publish updates on it on the
> quality-discuss mailing list.
>
> Thanks to all the testers, those filing issues and those who didn't find
> any (yet;) - keep up the good work, and tell your friends!
>
> cheers,
> dalibor topic
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject:        Quality Outreach Update
> Date:   Wed, 2 Sep 2015 15:54:39 +0100
> From:   Rory O'Donnell <rory.odonnell at oracle.com>
> To:     quality-discuss at openjdk.java.net <quality-discuss at openjdk.java.net
> >
>
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> We moved the Quality Outreach to the Quality Group earlier this year,here
> is a summary of the Bug logging activities over the past six months.
>
> We now have 48 FOSS Projects and their developers listed on the Wiki <
> https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/quality/Quality+Outreach> page,
> they have been regularly contacted to announce the availability of Early
> Access (EA) builds based on various OpenJDK Projects, and encouraged to
> report back any issues they found during their testing.
>
> Developers from 10 of the 48 participating projects filed 23 new issues in
> the JDK Bug System, more information in the table below.
>
>
> Priority        Fixed   In progress     Duplicate       Open
>         Total
> P1
>         0
>         0
>         0
>         0
>         0
> P2
>         7
>         2
>         1
>         0
>         10
> P3
>         3
>         8
>         0
>         1
>         12
> P4
>         0
>         1
>         0
>         0
>         1
> Total Unique Issues
>         10
>         11
>         1
>         1
>         23
>
>
> Components
>         P1
>         P2
>         P3
>         P4
>         Total
> hotspot
>         0
>         5
>         2
>         1
>         8
> core-libs
>         0
>         2
>         3
>         0
>         5
> tools
>         0
>         3
>         4
>         0
>         7
> xml
>         0
>         0
>         1
>         0
>         1
> client-libs
>         0
>         0
>         1
>         0
>         1
> javafx
>         0
>         0
>         1
>         0
>         1
> Total Unique Issues     0
>         10
>         12
>         1
>         23
>
>
>
> Raised in version       Fixed   In Progress     Duplicate
>         Open
>         Total
> JDK 9 EA builds
>         9
>         9
>         1
>         0
>         19
> JDK 8 EA updates
>         1
>         2
>         0
>         1
>         4
> Total Unique Issues     10
>         11
>         1
>         1
>         23
>
>
> The following testers who submitted significant bug reports deserve
> special mention:
> The following early testers who submitted significant bug reports deserve
> special mention:
> The following early testers who submitted significant bug reports deserve
> special mention:
> The following early testers who submitted significant bug reports deserve
> special menti
> on:
>
>   * Apache Lucene
>   * JaCoCo
>   * Apache Groovy
>   * Hazelcast
>   * Apache Ant.
>
> Valuable reports were also received from :
>
>   * Gradle
>   * Jitwatch
>   * AssertJ
>   * Apache JMeter
>   * ElasticSearch
>
> I expect to send the next Quality Outreach update in 6 months from now.
> This info will be posted on
> the Wiki <https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/quality/Quality+Outreach>
> page in the coming days.
>
> Rgds, Rory
>
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From jaromir.hamala at gmail.com  Thu Sep  3 15:56:50 2015
From: jaromir.hamala at gmail.com (Jaromir Hamala)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 18:56:50 +0300
Subject: Project proposal: Shenandoah
In-Reply-To: <CAGHtMWkEF1O1YcMBRB5ULFWqF2EsYxyJmV=BJ8ADzy-M=vZc4g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGHtMWnpRTSe7wEPLZaNawCALrOZL=2kOsrUCX+cVMoSqs1g7w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGHtMWntcdz0yERBASQA1R1_EJ3Rn0BnZ3oyQK4p5ikA7dviGA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMxXA6-rwnKEB-qZiFf9WHkP=2FMi7c1ktP6QA+++m6tJzbjJg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGHtMWkEF1O1YcMBRB5ULFWqF2EsYxyJmV=BJ8ADzy-M=vZc4g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMxXA6_n6hYgPq3VM9SCn5HAJT=UVMG38rkQFh-_YShm+SOAMg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I wanted to give it a try in our lab with plenty of RAM; Unfortunately it
seems there is a race / missing barrier or something like this. My test is
hanging after a few seconds, CPU is idle, JVM is not(!) frozen as after 2
minutes my application detects a timeout and the test exits gracefully. I
suppose there is a lost signal (wait/notify).

I'll try to isolate it and report to the Shenandoah mailing list.

Cheers,
Jaromir

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Mani Sarkar <sadhak001 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Glad it has created some excitement, also read this -
> http://www.jclarity.com/2014/03/12/shenandoah-experiment-1-will-it-run-pcgen/
>
> Although a bit dated, a good incentive to do your own research and share
> with us.
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Jaromir Hamala <jaromir.hamala at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Wow, that's a great news, thanks for sharing!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jaromir
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 7:22 PM, Mani Sarkar <sadhak001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Meant to share this as well - its now sponsored:
>>> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/discuss/2015-August/003767.html
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Mani
>>>
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From heather at jcp.org  Tue Sep  8 15:40:53 2015
From: heather at jcp.org (Heather VanCura)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2015 08:40:53 -0700
Subject: JavaOne JCP Party Invitation - Monday, October 26 - RSVP 
Message-ID: <55EF0185.9020906@jcp.org>

Hi all,

The link below is your invitation to the annual JCP Party during JavaOne 
in San Francisco.  Please sign up now for your tickets if you are able 
to attend the party. We are fortunate to be able to return to the 
spectacular Cityscape room at the top of the Hilton Hotel in Union 
Square. I hope to see you there next month!

http://www.eventbrite.com/e/copy-of-jcp-party-awards-ceremony-tickets-18479590954

Best regards,
Heather

From rory.odonnell at oracle.com  Wed Sep  9 17:08:57 2015
From: rory.odonnell at oracle.com (Rory O'Donnell)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 18:08:57 +0100
Subject: Project Jigsaw: Early-Access Builds available on jdk9.java.net/jigsaw
Message-ID: <55F067A9.6070606@oracle.com>


Hi All,

Early-access builds of JDK 9 with Project Jigsaw are available for 
download at jdk9.java.net/jigsaw <http://jdk9.java.net/jigsaw>.

The EA builds contain the latest prototype implementation of JSR 376 
<http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/spec>, the Java Platform Module 
System,
as well as that of the JDK-specific APIs and tools described in JEP 261 
<http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/261>.

If you'd like to try out the EA builds, by far the most helpful things 
you can do are:

  *

    Try to run existing applications, without change, on these builds to
    see whether the module system, or the modularization of the
    platform, breaks your code or identifies code that depends upon
    JDK-internal APIs or other unspecified aspects of the platform.

  *

    Experiment with the module system itself, perhaps by following the
    quick start guide
    <http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/quick-start>, and start
    thinking about how to migrate existing libraries and application
    components to modules. We hope to publish some specific migration
    tips shortly.

Please send usage questions and experience reports to the jigsaw-dev 
<http://mail.openjdk.java.net/mailman/listinfo/jigsaw-dev> list. 
Specific suggestions about the design of the module system should be 
sent to the JSR 376 Expert Group's comments list 
<mailto:jpms-spec-comments at openjdk.java.net>.

For more information please seen Mark Reinhold's mail [1]

Rgds,Rory

[1]http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jigsaw-dev/2015-September/004480.html

-- 
Rgds,Rory O'Donnell
Quality Engineering Manager
Oracle EMEA , Dublin, Ireland


From sadhak001 at gmail.com  Wed Sep  9 18:15:59 2015
From: sadhak001 at gmail.com (Mani Sarkar)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 19:15:59 +0100
Subject: Project Jigsaw: Early-Access Builds available on
	jdk9.java.net/jigsaw
In-Reply-To: <55F067A9.6070606@oracle.com>
References: <55F067A9.6070606@oracle.com>
Message-ID: <CAGHtMWn74zV+6YXzcDnH_TufNc-DLaE8UvVMW8RaVmADMmyngA@mail.gmail.com>

Thats great Rory, thanks for the heads up - I have shared it with the
respective communities.

Cheers.
Mani

On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Rory O'Donnell <rory.odonnell at oracle.com>
wrote:

>
> Hi All,
>
> Early-access builds of JDK 9 with Project Jigsaw are available for
> download at jdk9.java.net/jigsaw <http://jdk9.java.net/jigsaw>.
>
> The EA builds contain the latest prototype implementation of JSR 376 <
> http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/spec>, the Java Platform Module
> System,
> as well as that of the JDK-specific APIs and tools described in JEP 261 <
> http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/261>.
>
> If you'd like to try out the EA builds, by far the most helpful things you
> can do are:
>
>  *
>
>    Try to run existing applications, without change, on these builds to
>    see whether the module system, or the modularization of the
>    platform, breaks your code or identifies code that depends upon
>    JDK-internal APIs or other unspecified aspects of the platform.
>
>  *
>
>    Experiment with the module system itself, perhaps by following the
>    quick start guide
>    <http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/quick-start>, and start
>    thinking about how to migrate existing libraries and application
>    components to modules. We hope to publish some specific migration
>    tips shortly.
>
> Please send usage questions and experience reports to the jigsaw-dev <
> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/mailman/listinfo/jigsaw-dev> list. Specific
> suggestions about the design of the module system should be sent to the JSR
> 376 Expert Group's comments list <mailto:
> jpms-spec-comments at openjdk.java.net>.
>
> For more information please seen Mark Reinhold's mail [1]
>
> Rgds,Rory
>
> [1]
> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jigsaw-dev/2015-September/004480.html
>
> --
> Rgds,Rory O'Donnell
> Quality Engineering Manager
> Oracle EMEA , Dublin, Ireland
>
>


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From sadhak001 at gmail.com  Wed Sep  9 21:14:07 2015
From: sadhak001 at gmail.com (Mani Sarkar)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 22:14:07 +0100
Subject: Adopt OpenJDK newsletter for this week is out!
Message-ID: <CAGHtMWnrWoJxmgkXpEJD9rHJs487=g5rX5LJHxR1FByxvaV83A@mail.gmail.com>

http://paper.li/adoptopenjdk/1370465075?edition_id=1cc92b90-5734-11e5-b753-0cc47a0d164b&utm_campaign=paper_sub&utm_medium=email&utm_source=subscription

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From martijnverburg at gmail.com  Thu Sep 10 07:00:32 2015
From: martijnverburg at gmail.com (Martijn Verburg)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 08:00:32 +0100
Subject: Fwd: Initial module-system design, API, and early-access builds
In-Reply-To: <20150909095335.157393@eggemoggin.niobe.net>
References: <20150909095335.157393@eggemoggin.niobe.net>
Message-ID: <CAP7YuATVFbsNfKcmeE36wDNo=K6MQMYOEZg7_pEg1Ox+C8s+GQ@mail.gmail.com>

Cheers,
Martijn

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <mark.reinhold at oracle.com>
Date: 9 September 2015 at 17:53
Subject: Initial module-system design, API, and early-access builds
To: jigsaw-dev at openjdk.java.net


I've just posted the following materials as starting points for the work
of the Java Platform Module System (JSR 376) Expert Group:

  - "The State of the Module System" [1], an informal overview of
    the proposed design.

  - An initial sketch of changes to the Java Language Specification
    and the Java Virtual Machine Specification [2].

  - A preliminary draft API specification [3], along with diffs
    against a recent JDK 9 build [4].

  - For the very brave, an initial prototype in both source [5]
    and binary forms [6].

(These links are also available on the JSR 376 web page [7].)

The initial design covers a lot of ground, yet it is far from complete.
There are many open issues, some of which are noted in the materials, and
it does not yet satisfy all of the requirements [8].

>From this point onward the JSR 376 Expert Group will focus on the overall
design, and on specific changes and additions to the Java SE Platform
Specification.  You can follow the EG's progress by subscribing to the
observer list [9].  Please do not comment on ongoing EG discussions here
on jigsaw-dev, and do not attempt to contact EG members directly.

Feedback on the EG's work should be sent not to this list (jigsaw-dev)
but to the EG's comments list (jpms-spec-comments [a]) for consideration
by the EG.  That list is not an open discussion list but, rather, a list
to which anyone may post but only EG members may subscribe.  It is,
essentially, the EG's "suggestion box".

This list (jigsaw-dev) will focus on issues outside the scope of the
JSR.  These include, but are not limited to:

  - The implementation of the JSR 376 specification;

  - The design and implementation of JDK-specific APIs and tools,
    as described in JEP 261 [b]; and

  - Questions about how to use the module system, as opposed to
    suggestions about how to change it.

Experience reports from early testers and adopters are, finally,
especially welcome.  Please try out the EA builds [6] and let us know
what you learn!

- Mark


[1] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/spec/sotms/
[2] http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~mr/jigsaw/spec/lang-vm.html
[3] http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~mr/jigsaw/spec/api/
[4] http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~mr/jigsaw/spec/api-diff/
[5] http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jigsaw/jake
[6] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/ea
[7] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/spec/
[8] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/spec/reqs/
[9] http://mail.openjdk.java.net/mailman/listinfo/jpms-spec-observers
[a] http://mail.openjdk.java.net/mailman/listinfo/jpms-spec-comments
[b] http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/261

From sadhak001 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 10 16:15:11 2015
From: sadhak001 at gmail.com (Mani Sarkar)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 17:15:11 +0100
Subject: Project Jigsaw: Early-Access Builds available on
	jdk9.java.net/jigsaw
In-Reply-To: <CAGHtMWn74zV+6YXzcDnH_TufNc-DLaE8UvVMW8RaVmADMmyngA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <55F067A9.6070606@oracle.com>
	<CAGHtMWn74zV+6YXzcDnH_TufNc-DLaE8UvVMW8RaVmADMmyngA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGHtMW=S4G_yGCGNi8J0V=XmjoN2ZmL9zrV3dnpbPuxseur_8A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Rory,

I have played with the Jigsaw JDK using the Quick starter guide and have
this to share with our community:
https://github.com/neomatrix369/jdk9-jigsaw

There is a small mistake in the example on Services (see my implementation
you will spot it soon), also the Services example explains more than one
concept at a time and I think this might just be a bit more than a simple
example to illustrate Jigsaw features.

The last two examples are not fully fleshed out. I would put a footnote
about jlink, that jmod + tools are going to supersede jimage (if from what
I have read so far is correct, I have even seen this mentioned on a JBUG
issue).

Any feedback please send my way.

Cheers,
Mani

On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Mani Sarkar <sadhak001 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thats great Rory, thanks for the heads up - I have shared it with the
> respective communities.
>
> Cheers.
> Mani
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Rory O'Donnell <rory.odonnell at oracle.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Early-access builds of JDK 9 with Project Jigsaw are available for
>> download at jdk9.java.net/jigsaw <http://jdk9.java.net/jigsaw>.
>>
>> The EA builds contain the latest prototype implementation of JSR 376 <
>> http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/spec>, the Java Platform Module
>> System,
>> as well as that of the JDK-specific APIs and tools described in JEP 261 <
>> http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/261>.
>>
>> If you'd like to try out the EA builds, by far the most helpful things
>> you can do are:
>>
>>  *
>>
>>    Try to run existing applications, without change, on these builds to
>>    see whether the module system, or the modularization of the
>>    platform, breaks your code or identifies code that depends upon
>>    JDK-internal APIs or other unspecified aspects of the platform.
>>
>>  *
>>
>>    Experiment with the module system itself, perhaps by following the
>>    quick start guide
>>    <http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/quick-start>, and start
>>    thinking about how to migrate existing libraries and application
>>    components to modules. We hope to publish some specific migration
>>    tips shortly.
>>
>> Please send usage questions and experience reports to the jigsaw-dev <
>> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/mailman/listinfo/jigsaw-dev> list. Specific
>> suggestions about the design of the module system should be sent to the JSR
>> 376 Expert Group's comments list <mailto:
>> jpms-spec-comments at openjdk.java.net>.
>>
>> For more information please seen Mark Reinhold's mail [1]
>>
>> Rgds,Rory
>>
>> [1]
>> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jigsaw-dev/2015-September/004480.html
>>
>> --
>> Rgds,Rory O'Donnell
>> Quality Engineering Manager
>> Oracle EMEA , Dublin, Ireland
>>
>>
>
>
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From Alan.Bateman at oracle.com  Thu Sep 10 20:30:19 2015
From: Alan.Bateman at oracle.com (Alan Bateman)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 21:30:19 +0100
Subject: Project Jigsaw: Early-Access Builds available on
	jdk9.java.net/jigsaw
In-Reply-To: <CAGHtMW=S4G_yGCGNi8J0V=XmjoN2ZmL9zrV3dnpbPuxseur_8A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <55F067A9.6070606@oracle.com>	<CAGHtMWn74zV+6YXzcDnH_TufNc-DLaE8UvVMW8RaVmADMmyngA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGHtMW=S4G_yGCGNi8J0V=XmjoN2ZmL9zrV3dnpbPuxseur_8A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55F1E85B.3040004@oracle.com>

On 10/09/2015 17:15, Mani Sarkar wrote:
> Hi Rory,
>
> I have played with the Jigsaw JDK using the Quick starter guide and 
> have this to share with our community:
> https://github.com/neomatrix369/jdk9-jigsaw
>
> There is a small mistake in the example on Services (see my 
> implementation you will spot it soon), also the Services example 
> explains more than one concept at a time and I think this might just 
> be a bit more than a simple example to illustrate Jigsaw features.
>
> The last two examples are not fully fleshed out. I would put a 
> footnote about jlink, that jmod + tools are going to supersede jimage 
> (if from what I have read so far is correct, I have even seen this 
> mentioned on a JBUG issue).
>
I don't immediately see the error in the services example (I need to 
look closer) but I think you have a point that this example jumps ahead 
too much. Good idea to get the examples into a repo with scripts.

Just on the tools then jlink + jmod don't supersede the jimage tool. 
Lots of new j- tools so the following might be helpful:

jlink is the linker. It links a set of modules together to create a 
run-time image, the layout of which is described in JEP 220. The jlink 
tool is in the current EA builds but no documentation to point at yet. 
There will be a JEP in time (as mentioned already in JEP 261). The jlink 
example you see in the quick start page should work and create a 
run-time image that contains module com.greetings and its transitive 
dependences. Another thing to mention is that the jigsaw/jake builds 
invoke jlink to create the JDK, JRE, and compact profile images. I think 
of jlink as a tool for the advanced tool chain and not something that 
most developers will use directly.

The jmod tool is to the JMOD format as the jar tool is to the JAR 
format. In the jigsaw/jake build then you'll see that the tool is used 
to create a JMOD for each standard and JDK-specific module. The 
directory of JMOD files then serves as the module path for the linker 
when it creates the JDK and JRE images. Like jlink then I don't expect 
too many developers to need to use the jmod tool or JMOD format as 
modular JAR files will do just fine for most modules. In the example in 
the quick start page then the only reason that the JDK jmods directory 
is on the module path is because creating a custom image requires 
resolving standard and maybe JDK modules so the tool needs to be able to 
locate the corresponding module artifacts.

Now jimage. In a run-time image (JEP 220) then classes and resources are 
stored in a container that is in jimage format. The format is 
deliberated not documented and best to assume it will change and evolve 
over time as it inhales new optimizations. Introducing a new container 
format is a bit scary and needs some tooling to aid troubleshooting in 
the event of problems. This is why the JDK 9 builds and the EA builds 
have a jimage tool. It can be used to do some verification, list or 
extract the contents. It's not meant to be on par with the jar tool of 
course. Instead just think of the jimage tool as First Aid Kit hanging 
on the wall in the event that you might need it.

-Alan.



From sadhak001 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 10 21:21:59 2015
From: sadhak001 at gmail.com (Mani Sarkar)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 22:21:59 +0100
Subject: Project Jigsaw: Early-Access Builds available on
	jdk9.java.net/jigsaw
In-Reply-To: <55F1ED8E.3000904@oracle.com>
References: <55F067A9.6070606@oracle.com>
	<CAGHtMWn74zV+6YXzcDnH_TufNc-DLaE8UvVMW8RaVmADMmyngA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGHtMW=S4G_yGCGNi8J0V=XmjoN2ZmL9zrV3dnpbPuxseur_8A@mail.gmail.com>
	<55F1E85B.3040004@oracle.com> <55F1ED8E.3000904@oracle.com>
Message-ID: <CAGHtMWmQeGuxrQpN22xVQkBZtKLjJp0BeQ0+A33m+ZBUhRWgCQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Alan,

Thanks for the detailed explanation and it would be great to find this in
your docs - I will link to it.

The reasons I understood, jimage might go away, as I read this https://bugs.
*openjdk*.java.net/browse/JDK-8049369.

But now its clear, they both have their place - I did think of jimage as
the runtime container - thanks for confirming

Cheers,
Mani


On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Jim Connors <james.connors at oracle.com>
wrote:

> On 9/10/2015 4:30 PM, Alan Bateman wrote:
>
> I don't immediately see the error in the services example (I need to look
> closer) but I think you have a point that this example jumps ahead too
> much. Good idea to get the examples into a repo with scripts.
>
>
> In the Services Section:
> http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/quick-start#services
>
>     $ cat src/com.greetings/com/greetings/Main.java
>     package com.greetings;
>
>     import com.socket.NetworkSocket;
>
>     public class Main {
>         public static void main(String[] args) {
>             NetworkSocket s = NetworkSocket.open();
>         }
>     }
>
> When you run the com.greetings.Main class via:
>
>     $ java -mp mods -m com.greetings/com.greetings.Main
>
> The Quick Start guide shows the output as:
>
>     class org.fastsocket.FastNetworkSocket
>
> The Main.java file referenced above prints nothing (at least in my case),
> would it have to be modified slightly, something like:
>
> $ cat src/com.greetings/com/greetings/Main.java
>     package com.greetings;
>
>     import com.socket.NetworkSocket;
>
>     public class Main {
>         public static void main(String[] args) {
>             NetworkSocket s = NetworkSocket.open();
>             System.out.println(s.getClass().toString());
>        }
>     }
>
> -- Jim C
>



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From sadhak001 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 11 05:29:02 2015
From: sadhak001 at gmail.com (Mani Sarkar)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 06:29:02 +0100
Subject: JDK 9 Outreach
Message-ID: <CAGHtMWnhvCnn9ms2atRFu99gr6Am4tL=Q-0tg9EtvvqotHt7Xw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Dalibor,

I have couple more suggestions to expand the great JDK 9 Outreach even
further:

1. The major version token in the output of  javap -verbose SomeClass, returns
52 for both JDK 8 and JDK 9 compiled sources. It would be helpful to
mention this so everyone is aware of it, as no new byte codes have been
introduced in 9. In theory I could run JDK 9 compiled code in the JDK8
environment (sometimes with a little tweak - again is it advisable to do
this or not, upto you if yoi want to add this as well). Please let me know
if all this is true.

2. setAccessible - this is now not accessible with the new JDK 9 EA builds
? Has this been recent or since long. Not sure if this is mentioned
specifically in the outreach documentation.

Cheers,
Mani

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From Alan.Bateman at oracle.com  Fri Sep 11 07:53:44 2015
From: Alan.Bateman at oracle.com (Alan Bateman)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 08:53:44 +0100
Subject: Project Jigsaw: Early-Access Builds available on
	jdk9.java.net/jigsaw
In-Reply-To: <CAGHtMWmQeGuxrQpN22xVQkBZtKLjJp0BeQ0+A33m+ZBUhRWgCQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <55F067A9.6070606@oracle.com>	<CAGHtMWn74zV+6YXzcDnH_TufNc-DLaE8UvVMW8RaVmADMmyngA@mail.gmail.com>	<CAGHtMW=S4G_yGCGNi8J0V=XmjoN2ZmL9zrV3dnpbPuxseur_8A@mail.gmail.com>	<55F1E85B.3040004@oracle.com>	<55F1ED8E.3000904@oracle.com>
	<CAGHtMWmQeGuxrQpN22xVQkBZtKLjJp0BeQ0+A33m+ZBUhRWgCQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55F28888.60403@oracle.com>


On 10/09/2015 22:21, Mani Sarkar wrote:
> Hi Alan,
>
> Thanks for the detailed explanation and it would be great to find this 
> in your docs - I will link to it.
>
> The reasons I understood, jimage might go away, as I read this 
> https://bugs.*openjdk*.java.net/browse/JDK-8049369 
> <http://java.net/browse/JDK-8049369>.
>
Yeah, it is confusing. That JBS issue tracked the creation of temporary 
image builder tool to use in JDK 9 until we had jlink. In jigsaw/jake 
then this image building tool has been removed and the build changed to 
create the run-time images with jlink. The Dependences section of JEP 
261 has a few words on this.

-Alan.

From joe.darcy at oracle.com  Fri Sep 11 23:28:29 2015
From: joe.darcy at oracle.com (Joseph D. Darcy)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 16:28:29 -0700
Subject: JDK 9 Outreach
In-Reply-To: <CAGHtMWnhvCnn9ms2atRFu99gr6Am4tL=Q-0tg9EtvvqotHt7Xw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGHtMWnhvCnn9ms2atRFu99gr6Am4tL=Q-0tg9EtvvqotHt7Xw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55F3639D.1010901@oracle.com>

Hello,

On 9/10/2015 10:29 PM, Mani Sarkar wrote:
> Hi Dalibor,
>
> I have couple more suggestions to expand the great JDK 9 Outreach even
> further:
>
> 1. The major version token in the output of  javap -verbose SomeClass, returns
> 52 for both JDK 8 and JDK 9 compiled sources. It would be helpful to
> mention this so everyone is aware of it, as no new byte codes have been
> introduced in 9. In theory I could run JDK 9 compiled code in the JDK8
> environment (sometimes with a little tweak - again is it advisable to do
> this or not, upto you if yoi want to add this as well). Please let me know
> if all this is true.

Note that I would expect that before the end of JDK 9, the class file 
version for -target 9 is revved to 53.0.

Every other major platform release has defined a new class file version, 
even if the differences are only minor.

Cheers,

-Joe

From sadhak001 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 14 11:30:56 2015
From: sadhak001 at gmail.com (Mani Sarkar)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 12:30:56 +0100
Subject: Project Jigsaw JDK & JRE binaries + test results
Message-ID: <CAGHtMWkdjUSLMD9r-2FrrzwtiA_5Z-ycNdYxF-Kkvrv2syKe+A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Project Jigsaw JDK & JRE binaries + test results are now available on the
Adopt OpenJDK Cloudbees Build farm:

https://adopt-openjdk.ci.cloudbees.com/view/OpenJDK/job/project-jigsaw-openjdk-1.9-linux-x86_64/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/

Please share with your communities.

Cheers,
Mani

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From Alan.Bateman at oracle.com  Mon Sep 14 11:51:50 2015
From: Alan.Bateman at oracle.com (Alan Bateman)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 12:51:50 +0100
Subject: Project Jigsaw JDK & JRE binaries + test results
In-Reply-To: <CAGHtMWkdjUSLMD9r-2FrrzwtiA_5Z-ycNdYxF-Kkvrv2syKe+A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGHtMWkdjUSLMD9r-2FrrzwtiA_5Z-ycNdYxF-Kkvrv2syKe+A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55F6B4D6.6040908@oracle.com>

On 14/09/2015 12:30, Mani Sarkar wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Project Jigsaw JDK & JRE binaries + test results are now available on the
> Adopt OpenJDK Cloudbees Build farm:
>
> https://adopt-openjdk.ci.cloudbees.com/view/OpenJDK/job/project-jigsaw-openjdk-1.9-linux-x86_64/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/
>
>
Hi Mani,

There are patches needed to jtreg to support @modules and 
@compile/module that aren't in code-tools/jtreg yet. Hopefully soon and 
that should give you much better test results.

The other issue is that these test runs are running tests that are 
temporarily excluded by jdk/test/ProblemList.jake.txt needed and 
langtools/test/ProblemList.jake.txt. To skip these tests requires 
specifying these files to jtreg -exclude. As to why there are excluded 
tests, then it's partly that there is more work to do on jtreg and 
partly other issues (both product and test issues). Where possible, then 
the exclude list has the JIRA issue tracking the reason why the test is 
temporarily excluded.

-Alan.


From cnewland at chrisnewland.com  Mon Sep 14 12:01:33 2015
From: cnewland at chrisnewland.com (Chris Newland)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 13:01:33 +0100
Subject: Project Jigsaw JDK & JRE binaries + test results
In-Reply-To: <CAGHtMWkdjUSLMD9r-2FrrzwtiA_5Z-ycNdYxF-Kkvrv2syKe+A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGHtMWkdjUSLMD9r-2FrrzwtiA_5Z-ycNdYxF-Kkvrv2syKe+A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8a46df959c9c991ef2a5de1159f5f412.squirrel@excalibur.xssl.net>

Hi Mani,

Does Cloudbees offer any architectures other than Linux x86_64?

I have access to some OSX servers (not public facing) on which I could
build jigsaw nightlies and then scp the binaries either to CB or to my
public OpenJFX build server.

Would that be useful?

Cheers,

Chris

On Mon, September 14, 2015 12:30, Mani Sarkar wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>
> Project Jigsaw JDK & JRE binaries + test results are now available on the
>  Adopt OpenJDK Cloudbees Build farm:
>
>
> https://adopt-openjdk.ci.cloudbees.com/view/OpenJDK/job/project-jigsaw-op
> enjdk-1.9-linux-x86_64/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/
>
> Please share with your communities.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Mani
>
>
> --
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From sadhak001 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 14 12:06:56 2015
From: sadhak001 at gmail.com (Mani Sarkar)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 13:06:56 +0100
Subject: Project Jigsaw JDK & JRE binaries + test results
In-Reply-To: <8a46df959c9c991ef2a5de1159f5f412.squirrel@excalibur.xssl.net>
References: <CAGHtMWkdjUSLMD9r-2FrrzwtiA_5Z-ycNdYxF-Kkvrv2syKe+A@mail.gmail.com>
	<8a46df959c9c991ef2a5de1159f5f412.squirrel@excalibur.xssl.net>
Message-ID: <CAGHtMWmG-Kjskg=BAL04yB1gi=YON98OjnG7K7_qM+4DKrx9Vw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Chris,

No CB only supports Fedora atm - if you can build MacOSX and/or Windows,
please do and we can host the binaries on CB.

Cheers,
Mani

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Chris Newland <cnewland at chrisnewland.com>
wrote:

> Hi Mani,
>
> Does Cloudbees offer any architectures other than Linux x86_64?
>
> I have access to some OSX servers (not public facing) on which I could
> build jigsaw nightlies and then scp the binaries either to CB or to my
> public OpenJFX build server.
>
> Would that be useful?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>
> On Mon, September 14, 2015 12:30, Mani Sarkar wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> >
> > Project Jigsaw JDK & JRE binaries + test results are now available on the
> >  Adopt OpenJDK Cloudbees Build farm:
> >
> >
> >
> https://adopt-openjdk.ci.cloudbees.com/view/OpenJDK/job/project-jigsaw-op
> > enjdk-1.9-linux-x86_64/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/
> >
> > Please share with your communities.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Mani
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
> >
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> > chasing after you!*
> >
>
>
>


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From sadhak001 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 14 12:07:44 2015
From: sadhak001 at gmail.com (Mani Sarkar)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 13:07:44 +0100
Subject: Project Jigsaw JDK & JRE binaries + test results
In-Reply-To: <55F6B4D6.6040908@oracle.com>
References: <CAGHtMWkdjUSLMD9r-2FrrzwtiA_5Z-ycNdYxF-Kkvrv2syKe+A@mail.gmail.com>
	<55F6B4D6.6040908@oracle.com>
Message-ID: <CAGHtMW=xWu=tyGZAkrsKEEMWrgPkHw=UTFq-vZVwouJGgyS-TA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Alan,

Thanks for the update - I recollect Jon's email about jtreg needing some
work.

Cheers,
Mani

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Alan Bateman <Alan.Bateman at oracle.com>
wrote:

> On 14/09/2015 12:30, Mani Sarkar wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Project Jigsaw JDK & JRE binaries + test results are now available on the
>> Adopt OpenJDK Cloudbees Build farm:
>>
>>
>> https://adopt-openjdk.ci.cloudbees.com/view/OpenJDK/job/project-jigsaw-openjdk-1.9-linux-x86_64/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/
>>
>>
>> Hi Mani,
>
> There are patches needed to jtreg to support @modules and @compile/module
> that aren't in code-tools/jtreg yet. Hopefully soon and that should give
> you much better test results.
>
> The other issue is that these test runs are running tests that are
> temporarily excluded by jdk/test/ProblemList.jake.txt needed and
> langtools/test/ProblemList.jake.txt. To skip these tests requires
> specifying these files to jtreg -exclude. As to why there are excluded
> tests, then it's partly that there is more work to do on jtreg and partly
> other issues (both product and test issues). Where possible, then the
> exclude list has the JIRA issue tracking the reason why the test is
> temporarily excluded.
>
> -Alan.
>
>


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From martijnverburg at gmail.com  Mon Sep 14 12:44:02 2015
From: martijnverburg at gmail.com (Martijn Verburg)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 13:44:02 +0100
Subject: Project Jigsaw JDK & JRE binaries + test results
In-Reply-To: <CAGHtMWmG-Kjskg=BAL04yB1gi=YON98OjnG7K7_qM+4DKrx9Vw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGHtMWkdjUSLMD9r-2FrrzwtiA_5Z-ycNdYxF-Kkvrv2syKe+A@mail.gmail.com>
	<8a46df959c9c991ef2a5de1159f5f412.squirrel@excalibur.xssl.net>
	<CAGHtMWmG-Kjskg=BAL04yB1gi=YON98OjnG7K7_qM+4DKrx9Vw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAP7YuAQMrx_EKz4mZf7TtPk--EdVtkZFijnCuXO-D7+3Lwq2Qw@mail.gmail.com>

Might be worth asking CB if they'll allow you to run a slave from their
master...

Cheers,
Martijn

On 14 September 2015 at 13:06, Mani Sarkar <sadhak001 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Chris,
>
> No CB only supports Fedora atm - if you can build MacOSX and/or Windows,
> please do and we can host the binaries on CB.
>
> Cheers,
> Mani
>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Chris Newland <cnewland at chrisnewland.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Mani,
> >
> > Does Cloudbees offer any architectures other than Linux x86_64?
> >
> > I have access to some OSX servers (not public facing) on which I could
> > build jigsaw nightlies and then scp the binaries either to CB or to my
> > public OpenJFX build server.
> >
> > Would that be useful?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > On Mon, September 14, 2015 12:30, Mani Sarkar wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > >
> > > Project Jigsaw JDK & JRE binaries + test results are now available on
> the
> > >  Adopt OpenJDK Cloudbees Build farm:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://adopt-openjdk.ci.cloudbees.com/view/OpenJDK/job/project-jigsaw-op
> > > enjdk-1.9-linux-x86_64/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/
> > >
> > > Please share with your communities.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Mani
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> Advocate
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> > >
> > >
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> come
> > > chasing after you!*
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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From rahman.usta.88 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 14 16:48:48 2015
From: rahman.usta.88 at gmail.com (Rahman USTA)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 19:48:48 +0300
Subject: Project Jigsaw: Early-Access Builds available on
	jdk9.java.net/jigsaw
In-Reply-To: <55F28888.60403@oracle.com>
References: <55F067A9.6070606@oracle.com>
	<CAGHtMWn74zV+6YXzcDnH_TufNc-DLaE8UvVMW8RaVmADMmyngA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGHtMW=S4G_yGCGNi8J0V=XmjoN2ZmL9zrV3dnpbPuxseur_8A@mail.gmail.com>
	<55F1E85B.3040004@oracle.com> <55F1ED8E.3000904@oracle.com>
	<CAGHtMWmQeGuxrQpN22xVQkBZtKLjJp0BeQ0+A33m+ZBUhRWgCQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<55F28888.60403@oracle.com>
Message-ID: <CAGe7fv3_7Ttg-J8apwMZnRktBvOXs-Xo9H951fh0gCf3Md6UQA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all;

That is great to see Jigsaw in Action!!

I tried http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/quick-start and followed
the paths below;

Compiling Module

cd 001
javac -d mods/com.greetings src/com.greetings/module-info.java
src/com.greetings/com/greetings/Main.java

Running Module

java -modulepath mods -m com.greetings/com.greetings.Main

Linking Module

jar --create --archive=mlib/com.greetings.jar
--main-class=com.greetings.Main -C mods/com.greetings .

Creating archieve

jlink --modulepath %JAVA_HOME%/jmods;mlib --addmods com.greetings
--output greetingsapp

After last step, greetingsapp folder generated with all Jigsaw modules. How
can I include just base mod or other compact mods ?

Thanks.



2015-09-11 10:53 GMT+03:00 Alan Bateman <Alan.Bateman at oracle.com>:

>
> On 10/09/2015 22:21, Mani Sarkar wrote:
>
>> Hi Alan,
>>
>> Thanks for the detailed explanation and it would be great to find this in
>> your docs - I will link to it.
>>
>> The reasons I understood, jimage might go away, as I read this
>> https://bugs.*openjdk*.java.net/browse/JDK-8049369 <
>> http://java.net/browse/JDK-8049369>.
>>
>> Yeah, it is confusing. That JBS issue tracked the creation of temporary
> image builder tool to use in JDK 9 until we had jlink. In jigsaw/jake then
> this image building tool has been removed and the build changed to create
> the run-time images with jlink. The Dependences section of JEP 261 has a
> few words on this.
>
> -Alan.
>



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From Alan.Bateman at oracle.com  Mon Sep 14 17:49:10 2015
From: Alan.Bateman at oracle.com (Alan Bateman)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 18:49:10 +0100
Subject: Project Jigsaw: Early-Access Builds available on
	jdk9.java.net/jigsaw
In-Reply-To: <CAGe7fv3_7Ttg-J8apwMZnRktBvOXs-Xo9H951fh0gCf3Md6UQA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <55F067A9.6070606@oracle.com>
	<CAGHtMWn74zV+6YXzcDnH_TufNc-DLaE8UvVMW8RaVmADMmyngA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGHtMW=S4G_yGCGNi8J0V=XmjoN2ZmL9zrV3dnpbPuxseur_8A@mail.gmail.com>
	<55F1E85B.3040004@oracle.com> <55F1ED8E.3000904@oracle.com>
	<CAGHtMWmQeGuxrQpN22xVQkBZtKLjJp0BeQ0+A33m+ZBUhRWgCQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<55F28888.60403@oracle.com>
	<CAGe7fv3_7Ttg-J8apwMZnRktBvOXs-Xo9H951fh0gCf3Md6UQA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55F70896.6020406@oracle.com>



On 14/09/2015 17:48, Rahman USTA wrote:
> |jlink  --modulepath  %JAVA_HOME%/jmods;mlib  --addmods  com.greetings  --output  greetingsapp|
> After last step, greetingsapp folder generated with all Jigsaw 
> modules. How can I include just base mod or other compact mods ?
>
I assume what you are seeing is service binding with service providers 
and their dependencies getting linked into the image. Can you add 
"--limitmods com.greetings" to the command line and see if that gets you 
the run-time image that you expect?

If you run "greetingsapp/bin/java -listmods" then it will list the names 
of the modules in the generated image.

-Alan


From rahman.usta.88 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 14 19:11:48 2015
From: rahman.usta.88 at gmail.com (Rahman USTA)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 22:11:48 +0300
Subject: Project Jigsaw: Early-Access Builds available on
	jdk9.java.net/jigsaw
In-Reply-To: <55F70896.6020406@oracle.com>
References: <55F067A9.6070606@oracle.com>
	<CAGHtMWn74zV+6YXzcDnH_TufNc-DLaE8UvVMW8RaVmADMmyngA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGHtMW=S4G_yGCGNi8J0V=XmjoN2ZmL9zrV3dnpbPuxseur_8A@mail.gmail.com>
	<55F1E85B.3040004@oracle.com> <55F1ED8E.3000904@oracle.com>
	<CAGHtMWmQeGuxrQpN22xVQkBZtKLjJp0BeQ0+A33m+ZBUhRWgCQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<55F28888.60403@oracle.com>
	<CAGe7fv3_7Ttg-J8apwMZnRktBvOXs-Xo9H951fh0gCf3Md6UQA@mail.gmail.com>
	<55F70896.6020406@oracle.com>
Message-ID: <CAGe7fv2O_wO=ZsEPc0PgzHp8TOXUHM_ucZ08Jc9ijpbkTWnT0w@mail.gmail.com>

Yes with "--limitmods com.greetings" the result as I expected. So, why
jlink links all modules without resolving over the root "org.greetings"
module? When jlink links all modules?

Thanks

2015-09-14 20:49 GMT+03:00 Alan Bateman <Alan.Bateman at oracle.com>:

>
>
> On 14/09/2015 17:48, Rahman USTA wrote:
>
> jlink --modulepath %JAVA_HOME%/jmods;mlib --addmods com.greetings --output greetingsapp
>
> After last step, greetingsapp folder generated with all Jigsaw modules.
> How can I include just base mod or other compact mods ?
>
> I assume what you are seeing is service binding with service providers and
> their dependencies getting linked into the image. Can you add "--limitmods
> com.greetings" to the command line and see if that gets you the run-time
> image that you expect?
>
> If you run "greetingsapp/bin/java -listmods" then it will list the names
> of the modules in the generated image.
>
> -Alan
>
>


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From Alan.Bateman at oracle.com  Tue Sep 15 13:09:38 2015
From: Alan.Bateman at oracle.com (Alan Bateman)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 14:09:38 +0100
Subject: Project Jigsaw: Early-Access Builds available on
	jdk9.java.net/jigsaw
In-Reply-To: <CAGe7fv2O_wO=ZsEPc0PgzHp8TOXUHM_ucZ08Jc9ijpbkTWnT0w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <55F067A9.6070606@oracle.com>
	<CAGHtMWn74zV+6YXzcDnH_TufNc-DLaE8UvVMW8RaVmADMmyngA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGHtMW=S4G_yGCGNi8J0V=XmjoN2ZmL9zrV3dnpbPuxseur_8A@mail.gmail.com>
	<55F1E85B.3040004@oracle.com> <55F1ED8E.3000904@oracle.com>
	<CAGHtMWmQeGuxrQpN22xVQkBZtKLjJp0BeQ0+A33m+ZBUhRWgCQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<55F28888.60403@oracle.com>
	<CAGe7fv3_7Ttg-J8apwMZnRktBvOXs-Xo9H951fh0gCf3Md6UQA@mail.gmail.com>
	<55F70896.6020406@oracle.com>
	<CAGe7fv2O_wO=ZsEPc0PgzHp8TOXUHM_ucZ08Jc9ijpbkTWnT0w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55F81892.6090405@oracle.com>

On 14/09/2015 20:11, Rahman USTA wrote:
> Yes with "--limitmods com.greetings" the result as I expected. So, why 
> jlink links all modules without resolving over the root 
> "org.greetings" module? When jlink links all modules?
>
The -limitmods option is limiting the set of observable modules to 
com.greetings and its transitive dependences. Very useful for testing 
and also important when using the linker.

There isn't a jlink JEP yet but I would expect the issue as to whether 
the tool does service binding by default or not be listed in its open 
options. In the current prototype then it always does service binding so 
this is why the resulting image has the service provider modules and 
their dependences.

-Alan

From rahman.usta.88 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 15 14:48:59 2015
From: rahman.usta.88 at gmail.com (Rahman USTA)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 17:48:59 +0300
Subject: Project Jigsaw: Early-Access Builds available on
	jdk9.java.net/jigsaw
In-Reply-To: <55F81892.6090405@oracle.com>
References: <55F067A9.6070606@oracle.com>
	<CAGHtMWn74zV+6YXzcDnH_TufNc-DLaE8UvVMW8RaVmADMmyngA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGHtMW=S4G_yGCGNi8J0V=XmjoN2ZmL9zrV3dnpbPuxseur_8A@mail.gmail.com>
	<55F1E85B.3040004@oracle.com> <55F1ED8E.3000904@oracle.com>
	<CAGHtMWmQeGuxrQpN22xVQkBZtKLjJp0BeQ0+A33m+ZBUhRWgCQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<55F28888.60403@oracle.com>
	<CAGe7fv3_7Ttg-J8apwMZnRktBvOXs-Xo9H951fh0gCf3Md6UQA@mail.gmail.com>
	<55F70896.6020406@oracle.com>
	<CAGe7fv2O_wO=ZsEPc0PgzHp8TOXUHM_ucZ08Jc9ijpbkTWnT0w@mail.gmail.com>
	<55F81892.6090405@oracle.com>
Message-ID: <CAGe7fv0VZT+MxFWv9_hyZJM7mqF89jF74x9GchgdsV4EJ7G9yw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Alan, I understand that generally.

I have another question, Why built full JRE image size is huge than before
jigsaw?

2015-09-15 16:09 GMT+03:00 Alan Bateman <Alan.Bateman at oracle.com>:

> On 14/09/2015 20:11, Rahman USTA wrote:
>
> Yes with "--limitmods com.greetings" the result as I expected. So, why
> jlink links all modules without resolving over the root "org.greetings"
> module? When jlink links all modules?
>
> The -limitmods option is limiting the set of observable modules to
> com.greetings and its transitive dependences. Very useful for testing and
> also important when using the linker.
>
> There isn't a jlink JEP yet but I would expect the issue as to whether the
> tool does service binding by default or not be listed in its open options.
> In the current prototype then it always does service binding so this is why
> the resulting image has the service provider modules and their dependences.
>
> -Alan
>



-- 
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Istanbul JUG
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From sebastian.sickelmann at gmx.de  Wed Sep 16 19:27:16 2015
From: sebastian.sickelmann at gmx.de (Sebastian Sickelmann)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 21:27:16 +0200
Subject: OCA Signatory Check and the Census Page
In-Reply-To: <0LeMWL-1YsWYc2e4r-00qCpN@mail.gmx.com>
References: <0LeMWL-1YsWYc2e4r-00qCpN@mail.gmx.com>
Message-ID: <55F9C294.1000809@gmx.de>

Hi,

because i don't get any answer in discuss at openjdk i want to ask what do
you think about this.

see original-mail below.

What is your experience?
Have you seen this too?
How often has you seen this situation?
Do you think there is room for optimization?

Thanks
Sebastian

-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
Betreff: 	OCA Signatory Check and the Census Page
Datum: 	Tue, 08 Sep 2015 16:36:58 +0200
Von: 	Sebastian Sickelmann <sebastian.sickelmann at gmx.de>
An: 	discuss at openjdk.java.net



Hi, 

my name is Sebastian Sickelmann and I signed the OCA a few years ago. I am actually starting to spend some time again to openjdk contributions. 

The OCA-Signatory-Check that every OpenJDK member does before accepting a contribution is doing very well. But I observed that most checks are done against the census-page. Which is a good idea because it lists everyone that has at least author-level. But unfortunatly not the OCA-signatories.

Is there a good way to check also against the OCA-Signatory[1] list? Is it possible to link or embed it  from/into  the census.

Thanks
Sebastian

 [1] http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/community/oca-486395.html







From martijnverburg at gmail.com  Wed Sep 16 19:50:45 2015
From: martijnverburg at gmail.com (Martijn Verburg)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 20:50:45 +0100
Subject: OCA Signatory Check and the Census Page
In-Reply-To: <55F9C294.1000809@gmx.de>
References: <0LeMWL-1YsWYc2e4r-00qCpN@mail.gmx.com> <55F9C294.1000809@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <CAP7YuAQ=t8_U6zOy7-nQgBgr8uZ-CZywtCDKv9zmbww0Dk03UQ@mail.gmail.com>

We do actually have a Java component we wrote as part of the Betterrev
project.  The project is discontinued, but take a look at the source in
https://bitbucket.org/adoptopenjdk/betterrev

Cheers,
Martijn

On 16 September 2015 at 20:27, Sebastian Sickelmann <
sebastian.sickelmann at gmx.de> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> because i don't get any answer in discuss at openjdk i want to ask what do
> you think about this.
>
> see original-mail below.
>
> What is your experience?
> Have you seen this too?
> How often has you seen this situation?
> Do you think there is room for optimization?
>
> Thanks
> Sebastian
>
> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
> Betreff:        OCA Signatory Check and the Census Page
> Datum:  Tue, 08 Sep 2015 16:36:58 +0200
> Von:    Sebastian Sickelmann <sebastian.sickelmann at gmx.de>
> An:     discuss at openjdk.java.net
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> my name is Sebastian Sickelmann and I signed the OCA a few years ago. I am
> actually starting to spend some time again to openjdk contributions.
>
> The OCA-Signatory-Check that every OpenJDK member does before accepting a
> contribution is doing very well. But I observed that most checks are done
> against the census-page. Which is a good idea because it lists everyone
> that has at least author-level. But unfortunatly not the OCA-signatories.
>
> Is there a good way to check also against the OCA-Signatory[1] list? Is it
> possible to link or embed it  from/into  the census.
>
> Thanks
> Sebastian
>
>  [1] http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/community/oca-486395.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

From sadhak001 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 16 20:50:15 2015
From: sadhak001 at gmail.com (Mani Sarkar)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 21:50:15 +0100
Subject: Adopt OpenJDK newsletter is out for this week!
Message-ID: <CAGHtMWm17uSoDj_arPvKkVN-x4kYaTLfQ5gK30jnHZqV9x+h2w@mail.gmail.com>

Plenty of interesting news -
http://paper.li/adoptopenjdk/1370465075?edition_id=c13c15f0-5cb3-11e5-aee2-0cc47a0d164b&utm_campaign=paper_sub&utm_medium=email&utm_source=subscription

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From sadhak001 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 18 21:30:24 2015
From: sadhak001 at gmail.com (Mani Sarkar)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 22:30:24 +0100
Subject: Jigsaw Hackday in September
Message-ID: <CAGHtMWnZ6WgxmUHd2Y0SaRaWe3BT3s+Rdq_jdY1UY60tdAFf8A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Like every month, this month we had the Adopt OpenJDK hackday last weekend
(12th September) in London, see
http://www.meetup.com/Londonjavacommunity/events/224258725/.

We also had the good company of Alan Bateman (from Oracle) - thanks Alan
for all your support and for answering our various queries about Jigsaw.

We have managed to gather some feedback from the attendees:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KlumN74IGt-TU-Md3Fn5h4sXHa75RApWNLszUTVp-DE/edit
(thanks to all those who contributed to this doc)

Everything we used and gathering use the hackday is in this document, its
open for further amendments if we have updates.

We performed a number of builds - which failed then, but looking at the
messages on the Jigsaw-dev mailing list, there might be some good
resolution to those issues.

Thanks again, I hope the feedback gathered is of help to you.

Regards,
Mani

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From sadhak001 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 19 22:12:31 2015
From: sadhak001 at gmail.com (Mani Sarkar)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2015 23:12:31 +0100
Subject: Jigsaw Hackday in September
In-Reply-To: <CAGHtMWnZ6WgxmUHd2Y0SaRaWe3BT3s+Rdq_jdY1UY60tdAFf8A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGHtMWnZ6WgxmUHd2Y0SaRaWe3BT3s+Rdq_jdY1UY60tdAFf8A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGHtMWkcSh1OoDQON7n6V_HVA-SzSBS52L4+8k944px-JtXeeQ@mail.gmail.com>

Also want to add that the attendees last weekend, also contributed a few
more examples for us to play with, see
https://github.com/AdoptOpenJDK/jdk9-jigsaw/ - if you guys like it, it
could be made part of the Quick Starter Guide.

Once again thanks to our host John Stevenson from Heroku, for the space and
food provided, at the SalesForce office in London.

Cheers,
Mani

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 10:30 PM, Mani Sarkar <sadhak001 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Like every month, this month we had the Adopt OpenJDK hackday last weekend
> (12th September) in London, see
> http://www.meetup.com/Londonjavacommunity/events/224258725/.
>
> We also had the good company of Alan Bateman (from Oracle) - thanks Alan
> for all your support and for answering our various queries about Jigsaw.
>
> We have managed to gather some feedback from the attendees:
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KlumN74IGt-TU-Md3Fn5h4sXHa75RApWNLszUTVp-DE/edit
> (thanks to all those who contributed to this doc)
>
> Everything we used and gathering use the hackday is in this document, its
> open for further amendments if we have updates.
>
> We performed a number of builds - which failed then, but looking at the
> messages on the Jigsaw-dev mailing list, there might be some good
> resolution to those issues.
>
> Thanks again, I hope the feedback gathered is of help to you.
>
> Regards,
> Mani
>
> --
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> <http://neomatrix369.wordpress.com>**  |  *LJC Associate & LJC Advocate
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>
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> chasing after you!*
>



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From carl at jokl.co.uk  Sat Sep 19 22:19:07 2015
From: carl at jokl.co.uk (Carl Jokl)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2015 23:19:07 +0100
Subject: Jigsaw Hackday in September
In-Reply-To: <CAGHtMWkcSh1OoDQON7n6V_HVA-SzSBS52L4+8k944px-JtXeeQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGHtMWnZ6WgxmUHd2Y0SaRaWe3BT3s+Rdq_jdY1UY60tdAFf8A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGHtMWkcSh1OoDQON7n6V_HVA-SzSBS52L4+8k944px-JtXeeQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7D1CFF79-5EC4-4EEF-B50A-C76EE9E0CA74@jokl.co.uk>

Dear all

Sorry I have been so quiet but I have some fires to put out in my own business that has kept me occupied.

I have a lot of thoughts on the mobile side of Jigsaw. I don?t know what Oracles strategy is for Jigsaw on mobile but have my own suggestions and also how I hope to best be able to contribute to that effort.

I am very hardcore and quite enjoy low level programming. I don?t mind maintaining an ARM or Intel Atom based JVM in C/C++ or even assembler if needs be. Also any JNI bindings to allow Java to communicate with mobile hardware. I am technical enough to deal with whatever you throw at me. It is hard to say what my time I have available until I have lined up my next job role.
I do have to pay my high London rent as well as hacking on the JDK.

Carl

> On 19 Sep 2015, at 23:12, Mani Sarkar <sadhak001 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Also want to add that the attendees last weekend, also contributed a few
> more examples for us to play with, see
> https://github.com/AdoptOpenJDK/jdk9-jigsaw/ - if you guys like it, it
> could be made part of the Quick Starter Guide.
> 
> Once again thanks to our host John Stevenson from Heroku, for the space and
> food provided, at the SalesForce office in London.
> 
> Cheers,
> Mani
> 
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 10:30 PM, Mani Sarkar <sadhak001 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Like every month, this month we had the Adopt OpenJDK hackday last weekend
>> (12th September) in London, see
>> http://www.meetup.com/Londonjavacommunity/events/224258725/.
>> 
>> We also had the good company of Alan Bateman (from Oracle) - thanks Alan
>> for all your support and for answering our various queries about Jigsaw.
>> 
>> We have managed to gather some feedback from the attendees:
>> 
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KlumN74IGt-TU-Md3Fn5h4sXHa75RApWNLszUTVp-DE/edit
>> (thanks to all those who contributed to this doc)
>> 
>> Everything we used and gathering use the hackday is in this document, its
>> open for further amendments if we have updates.
>> 
>> We performed a number of builds - which failed then, but looking at the
>> messages on the Jigsaw-dev mailing list, there might be some good
>> resolution to those issues.
>> 
>> Thanks again, I hope the feedback gathered is of help to you.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Mani
>> 
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From sadhak001 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 24 22:48:03 2015
From: sadhak001 at gmail.com (Mani Sarkar)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 23:48:03 +0100
Subject: Adopt OpenJDK community news for this week is out!
Message-ID: <CAGHtMW=YwL+crLBKFr5yDgbP7Q5DDdydDzr9Sx0dcNQOEnQR1Q@mail.gmail.com>

http://paper.li/adoptopenjdk/1370465075?edition_id=e7f1dd30-6233-11e5-b78d-0cc47a0d164b&utm_campaign=paper_sub&utm_medium=email&utm_source=subscription

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From sadhak001 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 24 23:02:34 2015
From: sadhak001 at gmail.com (Mani Sarkar)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 00:02:34 +0100
Subject: Project Shenandoah JDK/JRE images
Message-ID: <CAGHtMW=Tj7vY=tJX-r8+8sA9rgT9Jut+v=6nT5BCoOBuAXG3zg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Project Shenandoah JDK/JRE images along with test reports are available at
the Adopt OpenJDK Cloudbees Build Farm -
https://adopt-openjdk.ci.cloudbees.com/view/OpenJDK/job/project-shenandoah/

Cheers,
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From rjdkolb at gmail.com  Fri Sep 25 07:33:56 2015
From: rjdkolb at gmail.com (Richard Kolb)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 09:33:56 +0200
Subject: Project Shenandoah JDK/JRE images
In-Reply-To: <CAGHtMW=Tj7vY=tJX-r8+8sA9rgT9Jut+v=6nT5BCoOBuAXG3zg@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Mani,

Awesome!
I'm going to have to commission a virtual server to test this :)

Cheers,
Richard.
On 25 Sep 2015 01:02, "Mani Sarkar" <sadhak001 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Project Shenandoah JDK/JRE images along with test reports are available at
> the Adopt OpenJDK Cloudbees Build Farm -
> https://adopt-openjdk.ci.cloudbees.com/view/OpenJDK/job/project-shenandoah/
>
> Cheers,
> Mani
>
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>
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> chasing after you!*
>

From sadhak001 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 25 22:48:46 2015
From: sadhak001 at gmail.com (Mani Sarkar)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 23:48:46 +0100
Subject: Project Shenandoah JDK/JRE images
In-Reply-To: <CANKpm-fRXbvQKaue5SB3KuyDFEKwGfHVEFWrxJv15fPSZvbjHQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGHtMW=Tj7vY=tJX-r8+8sA9rgT9Jut+v=6nT5BCoOBuAXG3zg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANKpm-fRXbvQKaue5SB3KuyDFEKwGfHVEFWrxJv15fPSZvbjHQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGHtMWkYP4KZcOMLReTuER1Ta8Q8V8QbruBs7Oqi0fy8_6KVXg@mail.gmail.com>

Coool - that would be awesome! ;)

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Richard Kolb <rjdkolb at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Mani,
>
> Awesome!
> I'm going to have to commission a virtual server to test this :)
>
> Cheers,
> Richard.
> On 25 Sep 2015 01:02, "Mani Sarkar" <sadhak001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Project Shenandoah JDK/JRE images along with test reports are available at
>> the Adopt OpenJDK Cloudbees Build Farm -
>>
>> https://adopt-openjdk.ci.cloudbees.com/view/OpenJDK/job/project-shenandoah/
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mani
>>
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>>
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>>
>


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From vincent.privat at gmail.com  Sun Sep 27 12:42:59 2015
From: vincent.privat at gmail.com (Vincent Privat)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 14:42:59 +0200
Subject: Quality outreach: JOSM and OpenJDK adoption
Message-ID: <CABBycTTR+uauUnJhO6rFuGJhwQdc5J2FbXaN843xLuGgTva7_Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
I am a core developer of JOSM, the Java OpenStreetMap Editor. If you don't
know about it, it is an extensible editor for OpenStreetMap (OSM), written
in Java 7, under GPL license. You can find more information about it on
[1], [2] and [3].

The first version of JOSM was released 10 years ago, in 2005. At this time
it was compatible with Java 5. We have since switched to Java 6, then 7. We
are now currently considering the migration to Java 8 [4] and began to
actively test JOSM with early builds of Java 9 [5]. The current test
results with Java 9 are excellent as all unit tests are OK.

During the past years the JOSM community has submitted several bug reports
to Sun/Oracle on the public bug tracker. I don't have the exhaustive list,
but 11 recent tickets can be found by searching "JOSM" keyword on JBS [6].

Given this status, I wonder if JOSM can be mentioned in the Quality
Outreach [7], and if some of our bug reports may be considered as valuable
in the Quality Outreach report [8].

Best regards,
Vincent, for the JOSM team

[1] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/
[2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JOSM
[4] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/11390
[5] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/jenkins/job/JOSM/
[6]
https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/sr/jira.issueviews:searchrequest-printable/temp/SearchRequest.html?jqlQuery=text+~+%22josm%22
[7] https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/quality/Quality+Outreach
[8]
https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/quality/Quality+Outreach+report+Sept+%272015

From martijnverburg at gmail.com  Sun Sep 27 13:03:01 2015
From: martijnverburg at gmail.com (Martijn Verburg)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 14:03:01 +0100
Subject: Quality outreach: JOSM and OpenJDK adoption
In-Reply-To: <CABBycTTR+uauUnJhO6rFuGJhwQdc5J2FbXaN843xLuGgTva7_Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABBycTTR+uauUnJhO6rFuGJhwQdc5J2FbXaN843xLuGgTva7_Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAP7YuARhnMeygyT5fZOpBqvFp2OPH=TTbWQDY9Q=dnPQAbCM3A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Vincent,

I'd say that would be most welcome - Rory?

On Sunday, 27 September 2015, Vincent Privat <vincent.privat at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
> I am a core developer of JOSM, the Java OpenStreetMap Editor. If you don't
> know about it, it is an extensible editor for OpenStreetMap (OSM), written
> in Java 7, under GPL license. You can find more information about it on
> [1], [2] and [3].
>
> The first version of JOSM was released 10 years ago, in 2005. At this time
> it was compatible with Java 5. We have since switched to Java 6, then 7. We
> are now currently considering the migration to Java 8 [4] and began to
> actively test JOSM with early builds of Java 9 [5]. The current test
> results with Java 9 are excellent as all unit tests are OK.
>
> During the past years the JOSM community has submitted several bug reports
> to Sun/Oracle on the public bug tracker. I don't have the exhaustive list,
> but 11 recent tickets can be found by searching "JOSM" keyword on JBS [6].
>
> Given this status, I wonder if JOSM can be mentioned in the Quality
> Outreach [7], and if some of our bug reports may be considered as valuable
> in the Quality Outreach report [8].
>
> Best regards,
> Vincent, for the JOSM team
>
> [1] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/
> [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM
> [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JOSM
> [4] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/11390
> [5] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/jenkins/job/JOSM/
> [6]
>
> https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/sr/jira.issueviews:searchrequest-printable/temp/SearchRequest.html?jqlQuery=text+~+%22josm%22
> [7] https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/quality/Quality+Outreach
> [8]
>
> https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/quality/Quality+Outreach+report+Sept+%272015
>


-- 
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From sadhak001 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 27 13:51:02 2015
From: sadhak001 at gmail.com (Mani Sarkar)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 14:51:02 +0100
Subject: Quality outreach: JOSM and OpenJDK adoption
In-Reply-To: <CAP7YuARhnMeygyT5fZOpBqvFp2OPH=TTbWQDY9Q=dnPQAbCM3A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABBycTTR+uauUnJhO6rFuGJhwQdc5J2FbXaN843xLuGgTva7_Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAP7YuARhnMeygyT5fZOpBqvFp2OPH=TTbWQDY9Q=dnPQAbCM3A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGHtMWkmSGc_pYvHYbgYvG-b9JRFiNfDY1pkHWYedf9==W0iPA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Vincent

+1 - you are in

Have you also tried building it against JDK Jigsaw - see
https://jdk9.java.net/jigsaw

In theory you should be fine if it already builds with jdk9.

Cheers,
Mani

On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Martijn Verburg <martijnverburg at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Vincent,
>
> I'd say that would be most welcome - Rory?
>
> On Sunday, 27 September 2015, Vincent Privat <vincent.privat at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I am a core developer of JOSM, the Java OpenStreetMap Editor. If you
> don't
> > know about it, it is an extensible editor for OpenStreetMap (OSM),
> written
> > in Java 7, under GPL license. You can find more information about it on
> > [1], [2] and [3].
> >
> > The first version of JOSM was released 10 years ago, in 2005. At this
> time
> > it was compatible with Java 5. We have since switched to Java 6, then 7.
> We
> > are now currently considering the migration to Java 8 [4] and began to
> > actively test JOSM with early builds of Java 9 [5]. The current test
> > results with Java 9 are excellent as all unit tests are OK.
> >
> > During the past years the JOSM community has submitted several bug
> reports
> > to Sun/Oracle on the public bug tracker. I don't have the exhaustive
> list,
> > but 11 recent tickets can be found by searching "JOSM" keyword on JBS
> [6].
> >
> > Given this status, I wonder if JOSM can be mentioned in the Quality
> > Outreach [7], and if some of our bug reports may be considered as
> valuable
> > in the Quality Outreach report [8].
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Vincent, for the JOSM team
> >
> > [1] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/
> > [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM
> > [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JOSM
> > [4] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/11390
> > [5] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/jenkins/job/JOSM/
> > [6]
> >
> >
> https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/sr/jira.issueviews:searchrequest-printable/temp/SearchRequest.html?jqlQuery=text+~+%22josm%22
> > [7] https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/quality/Quality+Outreach
> > [8]
> >
> >
> https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/quality/Quality+Outreach+report+Sept+%272015
> >
>
>
> --
> Cheers, Martijn (Sent from Gmail Mobile)
>



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From rory.odonnell at oracle.com  Mon Sep 28 09:25:30 2015
From: rory.odonnell at oracle.com (Rory O'Donnell)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 10:25:30 +0100
Subject: Quality outreach: JOSM and OpenJDK adoption
In-Reply-To: <CAP7YuARhnMeygyT5fZOpBqvFp2OPH=TTbWQDY9Q=dnPQAbCM3A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABBycTTR+uauUnJhO6rFuGJhwQdc5J2FbXaN843xLuGgTva7_Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAP7YuARhnMeygyT5fZOpBqvFp2OPH=TTbWQDY9Q=dnPQAbCM3A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5609078A.4090901@oracle.com>

Hi Vincent,

I will add your Project to the outreach wiki [7], I take it you will be 
the contact to list on the site ?
What versions of the JDK  are you testing against, would you like me to 
send you email when
a new EA build is available ?

The report [8] is created every 6 months , next report in Feb'2016 .

Rgds,Rory

On 27/09/2015 14:03, Martijn Verburg wrote:
> Hi Vincent,
>
> I'd say that would be most welcome - Rory?
>
> On Sunday, 27 September 2015, Vincent Privat <vincent.privat at gmail.com 
> <mailto:vincent.privat at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>     I am a core developer of JOSM, the Java OpenStreetMap Editor. If
>     you don't
>     know about it, it is an extensible editor for OpenStreetMap (OSM),
>     written
>     in Java 7, under GPL license. You can find more information about
>     it on
>     [1], [2] and [3].
>
>     The first version of JOSM was released 10 years ago, in 2005. At
>     this time
>     it was compatible with Java 5. We have since switched to Java 6,
>     then 7. We
>     are now currently considering the migration to Java 8 [4] and began to
>     actively test JOSM with early builds of Java 9 [5]. The current test
>     results with Java 9 are excellent as all unit tests are OK.
>
>     During the past years the JOSM community has submitted several bug
>     reports
>     to Sun/Oracle on the public bug tracker. I don't have the
>     exhaustive list,
>     but 11 recent tickets can be found by searching "JOSM" keyword on
>     JBS [6].
>
>     Given this status, I wonder if JOSM can be mentioned in the Quality
>     Outreach [7], and if some of our bug reports may be considered as
>     valuable
>     in the Quality Outreach report [8].
>
>     Best regards,
>     Vincent, for the JOSM team
>
>     [1] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/
>     [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM
>     [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JOSM
>     [4] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/11390
>     [5] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/jenkins/job/JOSM/
>     [6]
>     https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/sr/jira.issueviews:searchrequest-printable/temp/SearchRequest.html?jqlQuery=text+~+%22josm%22
>     <https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/sr/jira.issueviews:searchrequest-printable/temp/SearchRequest.html?jqlQuery=text+%7E+%22josm%22>
>     [7] https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/quality/Quality+Outreach
>     [8]
>     https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/quality/Quality+Outreach+report+Sept+%272015
>
>
>
> -- 
> Cheers, Martijn (Sent from Gmail Mobile)

-- 
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Quality Engineering Manager
Oracle EMEA, Dublin,Ireland


From jonathan.gibbons at oracle.com  Mon Sep 28 18:43:46 2015
From: jonathan.gibbons at oracle.com (Jonathan Gibbons)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 11:43:46 -0700
Subject: Quality outreach: JOSM and OpenJDK adoption
In-Reply-To: <CAP7YuARhnMeygyT5fZOpBqvFp2OPH=TTbWQDY9Q=dnPQAbCM3A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABBycTTR+uauUnJhO6rFuGJhwQdc5J2FbXaN843xLuGgTva7_Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAP7YuARhnMeygyT5fZOpBqvFp2OPH=TTbWQDY9Q=dnPQAbCM3A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <56098A62.1040601@oracle.com>

I tried your query [6], but that catches resolved issues as well as 
unresolved ones.

I found only 5 open issues containing "JOSM".

https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8087915?jql=project%20%3D%20jdk%20and%20resolution%20is%20empty%20and%20text%20~%20josm

-- Jon


On 09/27/2015 06:03 AM, Martijn Verburg wrote:
> Hi Vincent,
>
> I'd say that would be most welcome - Rory?
>
> On Sunday, 27 September 2015, Vincent Privat <vincent.privat at gmail.com 
> <mailto:vincent.privat at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>     I am a core developer of JOSM, the Java OpenStreetMap Editor. If
>     you don't
>     know about it, it is an extensible editor for OpenStreetMap (OSM),
>     written
>     in Java 7, under GPL license. You can find more information about
>     it on
>     [1], [2] and [3].
>
>     The first version of JOSM was released 10 years ago, in 2005. At
>     this time
>     it was compatible with Java 5. We have since switched to Java 6,
>     then 7. We
>     are now currently considering the migration to Java 8 [4] and began to
>     actively test JOSM with early builds of Java 9 [5]. The current test
>     results with Java 9 are excellent as all unit tests are OK.
>
>     During the past years the JOSM community has submitted several bug
>     reports
>     to Sun/Oracle on the public bug tracker. I don't have the
>     exhaustive list,
>     but 11 recent tickets can be found by searching "JOSM" keyword on
>     JBS [6].
>
>     Given this status, I wonder if JOSM can be mentioned in the Quality
>     Outreach [7], and if some of our bug reports may be considered as
>     valuable
>     in the Quality Outreach report [8].
>
>     Best regards,
>     Vincent, for the JOSM team
>
>     [1] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/
>     [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM
>     [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JOSM
>     [4] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/11390
>     [5] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/jenkins/job/JOSM/
>     [6]
>     https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/sr/jira.issueviews:searchrequest-printable/temp/SearchRequest.html?jqlQuery=text+~+%22josm%22
>     <https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/sr/jira.issueviews:searchrequest-printable/temp/SearchRequest.html?jqlQuery=text+%7E+%22josm%22>
>     [7] https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/quality/Quality+Outreach
>     [8]
>     https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/quality/Quality+Outreach+report+Sept+%272015
>
>
>
> -- 
> Cheers, Martijn (Sent from Gmail Mobile)