Suggestion: A wiki page for all answered "Why don't you ...?"

[Magnus Ihse Bursie]

On 2024-12-13 04:02, Ethan McCue wrote:

> One practical trouble in assembling this is that the mailing lists 
> aren't exactly indexed/searchable.

Yes, that is indeed annoying. :-(

To be able to search locally on your own computer, you can download the 
archives using something like this:

wget -l 0  --mirror --convert-links --no-parent 
https://mail.openjdk.org/pipermail/amber-dev/

This will give you all the mails as a <Year>-<Month>.txt file.

Our CDN seems to be throttling wget, so you might have do to add 
something like "--user-agent=work-around-missing-searchable-archive" to 
the command line...

> I'll make it my project to put something together by new years though.

That's great to hear. Thank you Ethan!

/Magnus

>
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024, 6:26 AM Louis Wasserman <lowasser at google.com> wrote:
>
>     Just seeing that it hasn't been mentioned, Guava's Idea Graveyard
>     is an example of this specific flavor of thing:
>     https://github.com/google/guava/wiki/IdeaGraveyard. (It's pretty
>     old, though, which reflects some of the downsides.)
>
>     On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 10:34 AM Archie Cobbs
>     <archie.cobbs at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>         On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 10:07 AM Brian Goetz
>         <brian.goetz at oracle.com> wrote:
>
>             There is the amber-docs repo which gets published to
>             `openjdk.org/projects/amber`
>             <http://openjdk.org/projects/amber>, which is probably a
>             better place to put it, and people can contribute via PRs.
>
>
>         I think putting something online under amber-docs is a great
>         idea - especially the part where people can contribute using
>         PR's, which fosters decentralized collaboration on the
>         maintenance of the list.
>
>         While it would be ideal to have a complete directory of ideas
>         with accompanying summaries of all that has been discussed, we
>         should probably start with something simpler and more
>         maintainable.
>
>         Here's a proposal: Have a list of "previously discussed
>         ideas". Each idea has a one line description, a one paragraph
>         summary, an optional example, and a bullet-point list of one
>         or more links to the thread(s) in the archive that contain all
>         the gory details of the discussion.
>
>         Here's a simple example...
>
>         *Idea:* Using switch statements for if/else control flow
>
>         *Description:* Support "switches on nothing" where the cases
>         simply provide the conditions on which to execute various code
>         branches.
>
>         *Example:*
>
>             public double toInches(String value) {
>                 switch {
>                 case when value.endsWith("mm") -> return 0.0393701 *
>         Integer.parseInt(value.substring(0, value.length() - 2));
>                 case when value.endsWith("ft") -> return 12 *
>         Integer.parseInt(value.substring(0, value.length() - 2));
>                 case when value.endsWith("light-years") -> return
>         3.725e+17 * Integer.parseInt(value.substring(0, value.length()
>         - 2));
>                 default -> throw new IllegalArgumentException("can't
>         parse value");
>                 }
>             }
>
>         *Discussion:*
>
>           * https://mail.openjdk.org/pipermail/amber-dev/2024-October/008939.html
>
>
>         Just now seeing Eirik's reference to Project Jigsaw's Issue
>         Summary document. I like this even better but someone would
>         have to step up and take ownership.
>
>         -Archie
>
>         -- 
>         Archie L. Cobbs
>
>
>
>     -- 
>     Louis Wasserman (he/they)
>
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