Operator overloading for collections?

[Brian Goetz]

> I'm not writing this to try to change your mind. I know your take on this is clear. But for the sake of the open discussion I'm writing this in defense of the great (not new) proposal. 

First, let me point out that we have now strayed WAY outside of the charter of amber-dev, from “curious question about will X ever happen” (which is in the “tolerably off topic” category) to “let me lobby for a massive change in language evolution approach.”  

> But enough with the foreword. I think the numbers are special argument is pretty weak and falls apart as soon as you look at it.

Then perhaps it is a mistake to even consider operator overloading at all.  If this is how enough people feel — that supporting numbers only is so bad that it is worse than doing nothing — then we have to seriously consider doing nothing.