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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/31/19 8:33 AM, Remi Forax wrote:<br>
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<b>Envoyé: </b>Jeudi 31 Octobre 2019 13:25:53<br>
<b>Objet: </b>Re: forbidding serialization methods as
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<div class="">On 31 Oct 2019, at 12:21, Vicente Romero
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<div class=""> Hi,<br class="">
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In the past we discussed about forbidding the
declaration of some serialization related methods in
records. In particular:<br class="">
<font class="" size="+1"><br class=""><span class="c-message__body" dir="auto"><pre class="c-mrkdwn__pre">writeObject(ObjectOutputStream)
readObjectNoData()
readObject(ObjectInputStream)</pre></span></font>I wonder if we still want to enforce
that restriction, meaning that it should be
reflected in the spec, or if it is not necessary
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<div>Where we ended up with Serializable Records, is that
the runtime is specified to ignore these methods if they
appear in a serializable record ( there are tests that
assert this ). The javac restriction is no longer
strictly necessary, but of course catches
effectively-useless declarations early, and without
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<div>It is necessary from a user point of view to have a javac
error, having something that silently fails is the worst in
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would a warning be an option?</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Why letting the option for a user to shoot itself in the foot ? It's not like it will work sometimes.<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Rémi<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #1010FF;margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><br>
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