Records -- current status

[Guy Steele]

> On Mar 20, 2018, at 10:15 AM, Brian Goetz <brian.goetz at oracle.com> wrote:
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>> So add all this up and we have three kind of finalness for fields:
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>> - by default mutable, but you can change it
>> - by default final, and you can't change it
>> - (and now) by default final, but you can change it
>> 
>> This seems like quite a bad situation to me.
>> 
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> I think what you are really saying here is: if you want immutable records, wait for value records, don't try to cram them in early?  Then a record inherits the finality of the class kind that it is describing.  And same with field accessibility. 

On its face, that sounds right to me.

I wish “value" could be the default for records, just as I wish “final" had been the default all along for all fields and local variables.  They’re the same issue.  But that’s not our history, so we have to live with it.