build-dev Digest, Vol 4, Issue 26

Tue Aug 28 21:07:00 UTC 2007

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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. Re: Binary plugs for non-supported platforms? (Florian Weimer)
> 2. Re: JDK GNU/Linux SPARC and MIPS (Christian Thalinger)
> 3. Re: Binary plugs for non-supported platforms? (Jonathan Springer)
> 4. Re: Binary plugs for non-supported platforms? (Tim Bell)
> 5. Re: Binary plugs for non-supported platforms? (Jonathan Springer)
> 6. Re: Java 6: Java kernel available? (Phil Race)
> 7. Re: Java 6: Java kernel available? (Phil Race)
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> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:24:05 +0200
> From: Florian Weimer <mailto:fw at deneb.enyo.de>
> Subject: Re: Binary plugs for non-supported platforms?
> To: Jonathan Springer <mailto:springer at reservoir.com>
> Cc: mailto:build-dev at openjdk.java.net
> Message-ID: <mailto:87ejhou0wa.fsf at mid.deneb.enyo.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> * Jonathan Springer:
> 
> > We have been working on an OpenJDK MIPS port, but it's difficult to
> > produce a version that works fully due to the remaining missing pieces
> > (in b18, libdcpr.so, libjsound.so, and libjsoundalso.so). I know that
> > work is in progress to create open replacements for these pieces (and
> > thanks for the work to remove libt2k already), but would it be
> > possible in the meantime to get binary versions of these libraries,
> > analogous to the binary plug versions that exist for other platforms?
> 
> Couldn't you base your work on the IcedTea effort? It should give you
> a fairly complete variant of OpenJDK on any GCJ-supported platform,
> provided that you've successfully ported the Hotspot VM.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:32:53 +0200
> From: Christian Thalinger <mailto:twisti at complang.tuwien.ac.at>
> Subject: Re: JDK GNU/Linux SPARC and MIPS
> To: Sunil Amitkumar Janki <mailto:devel.sjanki at gmail.com>
> Cc: mailto:build-dev at openjdk.java.net
> Message-ID: <mailto:1188250373.3823.44.camel at localhost.localdomain>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 14:56 +0200, Sunil Amitkumar Janki wrote:
> > I have GNU/Linux running on x86, MIPS and SPARC but only
> > x86 has an up to date JDK. For MIPS I have JDK 1.5.0 and
> > for SPARC Blackdown's JDK 1.4.1.
> > 
> > I would like to see support for both architectures integrated
> > into the JDK sources alongside x86, x86_64 and Solaris SPARC
> > so all systems can benefit from up to date Java installations.
> > 
> > Could someone point out to me what I'd have to do to get
> > the latest JDK up and running and support for it integrated
> > into mainline sources?
> 
> Well, you could port HotSpot or join us, in whatever way, in the IcedTea
> project where we try to get OpenJDK running on non-HotSpot platforms.
> 
> - twisti
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:14:49 -0500
> From: Jonathan Springer <mailto:springer at reservoir.com>
> Subject: Re: Binary plugs for non-supported platforms?
> To: Florian Weimer <mailto:fw at deneb.enyo.de>
> Cc: mailto:build-dev at openjdk.java.net
> Message-ID: <mailto:46D34CD9.8080406 at reservoir.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> 
> Florian Weimer wrote:
> 
> > * Jonathan Springer:
> > 
> >>We have been working on an OpenJDK MIPS port, but it's difficult to
> >>produce a version that works fully due to the remaining missing pieces
> >>(in b18, libdcpr.so, libjsound.so, and libjsoundalso.so). I know that
> >>work is in progress to create open replacements for these pieces (and
> >>thanks for the work to remove libt2k already), but would it be
> >>possible in the meantime to get binary versions of these libraries,
> >>analogous to the binary plug versions that exist for other platforms?
> > 
> > Couldn't you base your work on the IcedTea effort? It should give you
> > a fairly complete variant of OpenJDK on any GCJ-supported platform,
> > provided that you've successfully ported the Hotspot VM.
> 
> I wasn't aware that IcedTea had replacements for these closed libraries (listed above), 
> which are referenced by some elements of the class library. However, I just went to the 
> wiki to check, and it sounds like you've stubbed out sound (libjsound, libjsoundalsa) and 
> maybe reimplemented around libdcpr. I guess I should take a closer look -- thanks for the 
> idea.
> 
> One issue for use of IcedTea is that we are on Gentoo, though I see now the FAQ talks 
> about how to get that to work (build a custom libgcj). It's just a question of what is 
> least painful.
> 
> I'm still interested in getting simple binaries of the originals, since that would be most 
> expedient.
> 
> -- 
> Jonathan Springer |
> Reservoir Labs, Inc. | http://www.reservoir.com/
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:29:42 -0700
> From: Tim Bell <mailto:Tim.Bell at Sun.COM>
> Subject: Re: Binary plugs for non-supported platforms?
> To: Jonathan Springer <mailto:springer at reservoir.com>
> Cc: mailto:build-dev at openjdk.java.net
> Message-ID: <mailto:46D35056.9060005 at sun.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> Jonathan Springer wrote:
> 
> > We could actually do the work of building them ourselves; we'd just need 
> > a copy of the code with an appropriate license from Sun, or some other 
> > similar agreement.
> 
> If you can work within the terms of the Java Research License (JRL),
> the code is available here:
> 
> https://jdk-jrl-sources.dev.java.net/
> 
> > If Sun has access to a Linux MIPS machine and could generate it that would
> > be great too, of course, but I'm expecting not.
> 
> Sorry - as far as I know we don't have MIPS anything in our labs.
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:11:53 -0500
> From: Jonathan Springer <mailto:springer at reservoir.com>
> Subject: Re: Binary plugs for non-supported platforms?
> To: mailto:Tim.Bell at Sun.COM
> Cc: mailto:build-dev at openjdk.java.net
> Message-ID: <mailto:46D35A39.7090008 at reservoir.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> 
> Tim Bell wrote:
> 
> > Jonathan Springer wrote:
> > 
> >> We could actually do the work of building them ourselves; we'd just 
> >> need a copy of the code with an appropriate license from Sun, or some 
> >> other similar agreement.
> > 
> > If you can work within the terms of the Java Research License (JRL),
> > the code is available here:
> > 
> > https://jdk-jrl-sources.dev.java.net/
> 
> Thanks -- it might be ok (for now), but I was concerned it might not be and preferred to 
> avoid having to deal with that issue.
> 
> The IcedTea workarounds may work for us.
> 
> -- 
> Jonathan Springer |
> Reservoir Labs, Inc. | http://www.reservoir.com/
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:40:27 -0700
> From: Phil Race <mailto:Phil.Race at Sun.COM>
> Subject: Re: Java 6: Java kernel available?
> To: Ted Neward <mailto:ted at tedneward.com>
> Cc: mailto:alexanderschunk at t-online.de, mailto:build-dev at openjdk.java.net
> Message-ID: <mailto:46D44FFB.40009 at sun.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8
> 
> The Java Kernel is an installation technology. Its not part of the OpenJDK sources.
> i.e it doesn't (SFAIK) touch anything in the JDK source tree, so you won't see
> any changes there.
> 
> -phil.
> 
> Ted Neward wrote:
> > True, but I was worried that Googling "Java kernel" would yield up tons of old JavaOS and JavaCPU pages. :-)
> > 
> > Still, I wonder about this componentization of the JRE that Chet's alluding to--where is this work taking place, and is it being reflected in what we see in the OpenJDK builds? I'm curious to see how it's progressing (and potentially affecting the JVM as a whole...).
> > 
> > Ted Neward
> > Java, .NET, XML Services
> > Consulting, Teaching, Speaking, Writing
> > http://www.tedneward.com
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Volker Simonis [mailto:volker.simonis at gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:46 AM
> >> To: Ted Neward
> >> Cc: mailto:alexanderschunk at t-online.de; mailto:build-dev at openjdk.java.net
> >> Subject: Re: Java 6: Java kernel available?
> >>
> >> google is your friend :)
> >>
> >> http://weblogs.java.net/blog/enicholas/archive/2006/09/java_browser_ed.
> >> html
> >>
> >> On 8/23/07, Ted Neward <mailto:ted at tedneward.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Here's a dumb question: what's Java kernel?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ted Neward
> >>>
> >>> Java, .NET, XML Services
> >>>
> >>> Consulting, Teaching, Speaking, Writing
> >>>
> >>> http://www.tedneward.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: mailto:build-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net
> >>> [mailto:build-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net] On Behalf Of
> >>> mailto:alexanderschunk at t-online.de
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 11:24 AM
> >>> To: mailto:build-dev at openjdk.java.net
> >>> Subject: Java 6: Java kernel available?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> i am not sure about this but there was a tiny blog today stating that
> >> Java
> >>> kernel is ready for production and to be released with Java 6u4
> >> update?
> >>> Anyone a prooven information about this?
> >>>
> >>> If its right then i think this is pretty cool.
> >>>
> >>> - Best Alex
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >> 8/21/2007
> >>> 4:02 PM
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>> 4:02 PM
> >>>
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> >> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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> >>
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:22:13 -0700
> From: Phil Race <mailto:Phil.Race at Sun.COM>
> Subject: Re: Java 6: Java kernel available?
> To: Ted Neward <mailto:ted at tedneward.com>
> Cc: mailto:alexanderschunk at t-online.de, mailto:build-dev at openjdk.java.net
> Message-ID: <mailto:46D459C5.8060809 at sun.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8
> 
> PS it was pointed out to me that there may be some changes in
> the hotspot source tree for kernel to address classloading and
> library loading but I don't know anything about hotspot internals
> so can't be more specific.
> 
> -phil.
> 
> Phil Race wrote:
> > The Java Kernel is an installation technology. Its not part of the 
> > OpenJDK sources.
> > i.e it doesn't (SFAIK) touch anything in the JDK source tree, so you 
> > won't see
> > any changes there.
> > 
> > -phil.
> > 
> > Ted Neward wrote:
> >> True, but I was worried that Googling "Java kernel" would yield up 
> >> tons of old JavaOS and JavaCPU pages. :-)
> >>
> >> Still, I wonder about this componentization of the JRE that Chet's 
> >> alluding to--where is this work taking place, and is it being 
> >> reflected in what we see in the OpenJDK builds? I'm curious to see how 
> >> it's progressing (and potentially affecting the JVM as a whole...).
> >>
> >> Ted Neward
> >> Java, .NET, XML Services
> >> Consulting, Teaching, Speaking, Writing
> >> http://www.tedneward.com
> >> 
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Volker Simonis [mailto:volker.simonis at gmail.com]
> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:46 AM
> >>> To: Ted Neward
> >>> Cc: mailto:alexanderschunk at t-online.de; mailto:build-dev at openjdk.java.net
> >>> Subject: Re: Java 6: Java kernel available?
> >>>
> >>> google is your friend :)
> >>>
> >>> http://weblogs.java.net/blog/enicholas/archive/2006/09/java_browser_ed.
> >>> html
> >>>
> >>> On 8/23/07, Ted Neward <mailto:ted at tedneward.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Here's a dumb question: what's Java kernel?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Ted Neward
> >>>>
> >>>> Java, .NET, XML Services
> >>>>
> >>>> Consulting, Teaching, Speaking, Writing
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.tedneward.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> From: mailto:build-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net
> >>>> [mailto:build-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net] On Behalf Of
> >>>> mailto:alexanderschunk at t-online.de
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 11:24 AM
> >>>> To: mailto:build-dev at openjdk.java.net
> >>>> Subject: Java 6: Java kernel available?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> i am not sure about this but there was a tiny blog today stating that
> >>> Java
> >>>> kernel is ready for production and to be released with Java 6u4
> >>> update?
> >>>> Anyone a prooven information about this?
> >>>>
> >>>> If its right then i think this is pretty cool.
> >>>>
> >>>> - Best Alex
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> >>>> Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/965 - Release Date:
> >>> 8/21/2007
> >>>> 4:02 PM
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> >>>> Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/965 - Release Date:
> >>> 8/21/2007
> >>>> 4:02 PM
> >>>>
> >>> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> >>> Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/965 - Release Date:
> >>> 8/21/2007 4:02 PM
> >>>
> >>
> >> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 
> >> 269.12.6/971 - Release Date: 8/24/2007 2:59 PM
> >> 
> >>
> 
> 
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