FW: State of the build on Windows?

[Ted Neward]

Resending, because I haven't seen it come through on the list....

Ted Neward
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted Neward [mailto:ted at tedneward.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 2:39 AM
> To: 'Kelly.Ohair at Sun.COM'
> Cc: 'build-dev at openjdk.java.net'
> Subject: RE: State of the build on Windows?
> 
> > See the Build README:
> >
> >
> https://openjdk.dev.java.net/source/browse/*checkout*/openjdk/jdk/trunk/RE
> > ADME-builds.html
> >
> That's the README, all right. :-)
> 
> > See the BUILD README. For sure you need the cygwin 'make', awk, ksh, and
> > more, the list should be in the openjdk build readme.
> > I myself just download all of cygwin, which takes a long time but
> > then I never have to worry about not having something
> >
> I guess I was assuming that the list there wasn't a comprehensive list,
> since there seemed to be a few things used in the build scripts that isn't
> on that list. (I can't point to anything now, of course, this was just an
> impression I got scanning through the build files.)
> 
> > Download a patched cygwin make binary from
> > http://www.cmake.org/files/cygwin/make.exe
> >
> Done, thanks for the link. It reports .81, is that what it should report?
> 
> > And this is important: Start your 'make' from a cygwin shell window, NOT
> a
> > Windows command window.
> >
> Been doing that. What would also be nice is to know what env vars should
> be set inside the Cygwin bash window; is there a definitive list of those,
> as well? Or are those what's inside the shell script that the README
> suggests to run?
> 
> > That is how the binary plugs are delivered right now, a jdk7 image.
> > We are working on sparse binary plugs.
> >
> Ah... OK, that makes more sense. By the way, check out
> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/5806/implib32.htm for a utility
> that will create an import library out of a DLL; it's freeware, but it
> does require that you have Visual C++ 2.x/4.x (which is very old compared
> to VS2003) on your path. (It uses DUMPBIN.EXE and LIB.EXE, both of which
> are in the VS2003 release.) Just run it against t2k.dll, and I *think*
> we're good to go for now. (Obviously I can't try it until I get past 'make
> sanity', either. ;-) )
> 
> > If you can create a .lib file from a .dll, that should work, I didn't
> > spend
> > much time looking into this idea, wasn't sure how reliable it was.
> >
> Assuming all that's needed there is the import definitions for the DLL
> itself (which is usually the case, given a .lib/.dll pairing like that),
> then we should be good to go, but obviously I can't say that for certain
> until I've built with it. Maybe Dan can have a go at it while I get past
> the other roadblocks...? (Dan, email me if you can't get the implib32 tool
> to work; I successfully generated a .lib for it, so I can mail that to you
> if you need it. I don't want to send it to the list "just in case" of
> licensing issues.)
> 
> > I'm wondering if you have read the right README. What README are you
> > refering too?
> >
> Yep, that's the one. I just got thrown off by a few issues along the way.
> 
> Ted Neward
> Java, .NET, XML Services
> Consulting, Teaching, Speaking, Writing
> http://www.tedneward.com
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kelly.Ohair at Sun.COM [mailto:Kelly.Ohair at Sun.COM]
> > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 10:11 AM
> > To: Ted Neward
> > Cc: build-dev at openjdk.java.net
> > Subject: Re: State of the build on Windows?
> >
> > See the Build README:
> >
> >
> >
> https://openjdk.dev.java.net/source/browse/*checkout*/openjdk/jdk/trunk/RE
> > ADME-builds.html
> >
> > A few comments below.
> >
> > Ted Neward wrote:
> > > You're right--I didn't give you much to go on. Here's where I'm at
> right
> > > now.
> > >
> > > I pulled down the latest SVN sources, fresh checkout from the trunk.
> > >
> > > I have MSVS 2003 installed on the box, no problems there.
> > >
> > > I can build the Hotspot JVM itself using the hotspot build files, no
> > > problems there with any of the debug/fastdebug/product
> > > tiered/core/compiler1/compiler2 combinations. Everybody happy.
> > >
> > > Trying to build the larger build (OpenJDK as a whole) yields problems.
> > >
> > > I had Cygwin on my system, with (I think) all the tools I needed from
> > there
> > > as part of the install. (Is there a definitive list? I've seen some
> > > what-seem-to-be-conflicting lists.)
> >
> > See the BUILD README. For sure you need the cygwin 'make', awk, ksh, and
> > more, the list should be in the openjdk build readme.
> > I myself just download all of cygwin, which takes a long time but
> > then I never have to worry about not having something
> >
> > >
> > > I pulled down GNU Make 3.80, built it using MSVC 2003, and both its
> > > "batched" and "cygwin" modes gave me problems, the first with
> > CreateProcess
> > > failures, the second with shell execution failures. I think this is a
> > red
> > > herring, which is why I'm not giving you the lists of error reports.
> > >
> >
> > You should not need to build GNU make, however there is an issue with
> 3.80
> > on Windows where it doesn't work, due to it not accepting C:/ style
> paths.
> > See
> >
> http://weblogs.java.net/blog/kellyohair/archive/2007/01/jdk_builds_on_w.ht
> > ml
> > Download a patched cygwin make binary from
> > http://www.cmake.org/files/cygwin/make.exe
> >
> > And this is important: Start your 'make' from a cygwin shell window, NOT
> a
> > Windows command window.
> >
> >
> > > Interestingly, I don't even get to the t2k.lib problem, because when I
> > > pulled down the binary plugs for Windows, I got what appears to be a
> > > complete JDK 7 build, and *not* the necessary pieces to build it.
> > >
> >
> > That is how the binary plugs are delivered right now, a jdk7 image.
> > We are working on sparse binary plugs.
> >
> > > By the way, as a workaround, I *think* one can use the import library
> > tool
> > > that ships with MSVS2003 to build the t2k.lib (if it's just an import
> > > library for t2k.dll) to get around this problem--this is what I was
> > trying
> > > to verify when I ran into the larger issues.
> >
> > If you can create a .lib file from a .dll, that should work, I didn't
> > spend
> > much time looking into this idea, wasn't sure how reliable it was.
> >
> > >
> > > I'm hoping that Dan (or anyone else who has successfully built the
> > Windows
> > > build) can help walk me through some of the setup and build issues...?
> I
> > > realize it's a lot to ask, but I'm hoping to take the experiences here
> > and
> > > document them all in a white paper for popular consumption.
> > >
> >
> > Look at the BUILD Readme first. Then get 'make sanity' to pass.
> > Unfortunately without a t2k.lib, you won't get past the sanity check.
> >
> > > So I guess my questions, in order, are:
> > > (*) Do we have a complete list of tools necessary to build on Windows?
> > So I
> > > can verify I have all the tools necessary?
> > > (*) Can somebody send me a GNU Make for Windows that works for them,
> so
> > I
> > > can make sure it's not my weirdo-built version that's breaking?
> > > (*) Can somebody please verify that the version of the binary plugs
> for
> > > Window on the Sun site is correct and suitable for building? If it is,
> > can
> > > you send me the URL to pull it down (because I obviously grabbed the
> > wrong
> > > one)? If it's not, send me one that is?
> > > (*) If I need to customize my build environment, is
> > > j2se/make/jdk_generic_profile.sh the file to modify, or should I
> create
> > a
> > > customized one (based on jdk_generic_profile.sh) and use that? What's
> > going
> > > to work best with future changes to the build infrastructure?
> > >
> > > I've read the README several times, but I find myself still stuck. :-/
> >
> > I'm wondering if you have read the right README. What README are you
> > refering too?
> >
> > -kto
> >
> > >
> > > Ted Neward
> > > Java, .NET, XML Services
> > > Consulting, Teaching, Speaking, Writing
> > > http://www.tedneward.com
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Kelly.Ohair at Sun.COM [mailto:Kelly.Ohair at Sun.COM]
> > >> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 5:14 PM
> > >> To: Ted Neward
> > >> Cc: build-dev at openjdk.java.net
> > >> Subject: Re: State of the build on Windows?
> > >>
> > >> Ted,
> > >>
> > >> You haven't given me anything to go on here, but I assume the t2k.lib
> > >> problem is still going to block you on Windows.
> > >>
> > >> There are two efforts going on right now with regards to t2k.lib.
> > >> The awt team is trying to get rid of our dependence on t2k in the
> > OpenJDK,
> > >> effectively one less plug.
> > >>
> > >> And I and a few others have also been trying to re-configure the
> binary
> > >> plug
> > >> download bundles to be smaller, sparse, legally self defining,
> include
> > the
> > >> t2k.lib,
> > >> and be automatically built by the Makefiles on every formal promotion
> > >> build.
> > >>
> > >> Since this changes the legal documents, it's taken longer than I had
> > >> thought it would. I am not a lawyer, so I won't speak to the specific
> > >> legal issues here. We tried for B14 then B15, couldn't get all the
> > >> issues resolved in time, and also do all the test builds as we have
> to
> > >> repeatedly merge and re-merge these changes.
> > >> We didn't want to break the jdk7 product or the OpenJDK with these
> > >> changes.
> > >> Hopefully everything will be in place for B16 for the new binary
> plugs,
> > >> which will help all platforms, but will include t2k.lib.
> > >> But I can't promise B16, we are trying very hard to get it into B16.
> > >>
> > >> But t2k.lib doesn't have long to live, the awt team is progressing
> very
> > >> well on removing our dependence on it. Which is the best solution of
> > >> course.
> > >>
> > >> I apologize for how long this is taking, but we are trying to get it
> > >> right,
> > >> or as right as possible. Once these binary plug changes are in place,
> > >> I'll send an email to the discuss and build alias with details, but
> > >> more importantly, we will be able to add/subtract (hopefully only
> > >> subtract)
> > >> from the binary plugs as we go, without detailed legal review, or at
> > >> least that's the goal.
> > >>
> > >> -kto
> > >>
> > >> Ted Neward wrote:
> > >>> I get some conflicting input regarding the state of the build on a
> > >>> Windows box. Kelly’s blog of May 2007 implies that it’s broken; is
> > that
> > >>> still the case?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Beyond that, I have Cygwin and VS2003 installed on my box, and I
> > pulled
> > >>> down and built GNU make 3.80. Things still seem to be kinda broken
> at
> > a
> > >>> fundamental level, though—is there anything else I need to do (env
> > vars,
> > >>> etc) that would need to be set? For example, the makefiles seem to
> > want
> > >>> to use a default temp directory of C:\Documents and
> Settings\Ted\Local
> > >>> Settings\... which obviously has spaces in it; is this supposed to
> be
> > >>> corrected somewhere? Where’s the best place to override these
> > settings?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Ted Neward
> > >>>
> > >>> Java, .NET, XML Services
> > >>>
> > >>> Consulting, Teaching, Speaking, Writing
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.tedneward.com
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
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