Makefile patch needed when building the b20 OpenJDK source drop

Ted Neward ted at tedneward.com
Wed Sep 26 22:13:27 UTC 2007


Exactly. It might be a nice way around the binary plugs for those who don't
care about that stuff.

Ted Neward
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kelly.Ohair at Sun.COM [mailto:Kelly.Ohair at Sun.COM]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 12:21 PM
> To: Ted Neward
> Cc: 'Christian Thalinger'; build-dev at openjdk.java.net; Tim.Bell at Sun.COM
> Subject: Re: Makefile patch needed when building the b20 OpenJDK source
> drop
> 
> Good question... I'll explore that possibility, warn that no plugs are
> available but build as much as possible kind of thing, right?
> 
> -kto
> 
> Ted Neward wrote:
> > No promises heard, no expectations understood. :-)
> >
> > I personally have a hard time following the argument that says that
> "because
> > we put them into our source repository, we're asserting some kind of
> legal
> > license ownership" or something, but hey, I'm not a lawyer, either.
> :-/
> >
> > Here's a Really Dumb Question(TM): Is it possible (and then, is it
> > practical) to create a build that doesn't use any of the binary plugs
> stuff?
> > A stripped-down, JVM-and-core-classes-only kind of build that just
> uses the
> > core stuff that's out in the Sun-blessed open source domain? (I
> haven't
> > found that I cared about any of the binary plugs-related stuff yet,
> so...)
> >
> > Ted Neward
> > Java, .NET, XML Services
> > Consulting, Teaching, Speaking, Writing
> > http://www.tedneward.com
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Kelly.Ohair at Sun.COM [mailto:Kelly.Ohair at Sun.COM]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 8:12 PM
> >> To: Ted Neward
> >> Cc: 'Christian Thalinger'; build-dev at openjdk.java.net;
> Tim.Bell at Sun.COM
> >> Subject: Re: Makefile patch needed when building the b20 OpenJDK
> source
> >> drop
> >>
> >> I would love for these binary plugs to go away, and second best,
> make
> >> them trivially available, but we are in legal territory here.
> >> I will bring up this issue and see if we can't do what you suggest,
> >> but I am not a lawyer, no promises.
> >>
> >> They are a royal pain, no argument there.
> >>
> >> -kto
> >>
> >> Ted Neward wrote:
> >>> If they're going to change with every build release, then it's even
> >> MORE
> >>> important to make sure they're in some kind of source repository.
> >> Otherwise,
> >>> the whole point of keeping it in a source-code control repository
> >>> (rollbacks, check out to a label, and so on) goes completely out
> the
> >> window
> >>> when I can't get the corresponding binary plugs.
> >>>
> >>> I can't be the only one who grew up under the rule of source
> control
> >> that
> >>> states, "Everything necessary to create a build must be stored in
> the
> >> source
> >>> repository", can I?
> >>>
> >>> Ted Neward
> >>> Java, .NET, XML Services
> >>> Consulting, Teaching, Speaking, Writing
> >>> http://www.tedneward.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Christian Thalinger [mailto:twisti at complang.tuwien.ac.at]
> >>>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 2:03 AM
> >>>> To: Ted Neward
> >>>> Cc: Tim.Bell at Sun.COM; build-dev at openjdk.java.net
> >>>> Subject: RE: Makefile patch needed when building the b20 OpenJDK
> >> source
> >>>> drop
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, 2007-09-23 at 23:40 -0700, Ted Neward wrote:
> >>>>> If they can't rest in the same repository, then perhaps a
> different
> >>>>> repository?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm just looking to be able to do a "svn up" (or its Mercurial
> >>>> equivalent)
> >>>>> and know that I've got everything I need to build the OpenJDK;
> it's
> >> a
> >>>> lot
> >>>>> more tedious to "svn up" then fetch the latest binary plugs
> >>>> (particularly
> >>>>> since I'm betting they're not going to change as frequently as
> the
> >>>> source
> >>>>> does), and only then do a build.
> >>>> That's wrong.  Every source build has it's matching binary plug.
> >> See:
> >>>> http://download.java.net/openjdk/jdk7/
> >>>>
> >>>> - twisti
> >>>>
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