[RFR]: 8187004: No valid toolchains defined for BSD

John Paul Adrian Glaubitz glaubitz at physik.fu-berlin.de
Thu Aug 31 08:53:49 UTC 2017


On 08/31/2017 09:21 AM, David Holmes wrote:
> Those were very minor patches of two quite distinct kinds:
> 
> 1. Make zero work on platform Z
> 
> This is something we can easily accommodate, and it generally
> doesn't take much effort or disturb other platforms.

Well, Zero is currently not maintained, is it?

> 2. Make the linux-sparc port work again
> 
> This is somewhat more significant and does require community support
> as otherwise this is an "orphaned" port. The fact it already exists
> and was starting to bit rot means the acceptance bar is somewhat lower.

I agree.

> But there is still a question mark over longer term commitment from the
> community for supporting this port.

You mean, there is no chance that Oracle is going to have their engineers
work on Oracle's OpenJDK so it will work on Oracle Linux running on Oracle
SPARC?

I know I am very cynical, but I have very hard problems to believe that
the Linux SPARC port of OpenJDK is going to be irrelevant in the near
future for Oracle when I see how much they are ramping up Linux support
on SPARC. I am following the sparclinux kernel mailing list and roughly
80% of the patches of the past months for Linux SPARC came from Oracle
folk.

>> Patric told me on hotspot-dev that Oracle has no problems accepting these
>> patches if they are maintained and tested by the community.
> 
> A full BSD port, not just Zero on BSD, requires a non-trivial level of
> commitment from the community in terms of maintaining it etc, before it
> can come into mainline. That is why we have the bsd-port project - to
> establish that community and commitment. But AFAICS, and from what was
> said when Magnus proposed this, that community is not active.

There is an active community maintaining OpenJDK on BSD. The problem is
just that they are doing it downstream instead of working together with
upstream due to lack of communication. I think that is a problem that can
be fixed though.

I will try to get these people join the upstream mailing list.

Adrian

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