RFR: JDK-8200358 Remove mapfiles for JDK executables
Magnus Ihse Bursie
magnus.ihse.bursie at oracle.com
Tue Apr 3 20:42:14 UTC 2018
Here's an updated webrev that uses the same pattern as for native shared
libraries to hide non-exported symbols, for executables as well.
I hope you're happy now :-)
WebRev:
http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~ihse/JDK-8200358-remove-launcher-mapfiles/webrev.02
I know there's a bit of redundancy now for setting -fvisibility=hidden
and friends. I'll clean that up going forward.
/Magnus
On 2018-03-29 07:48, Martin Buchholz wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 2:48 PM, Magnus Ihse Bursie
> <magnus.ihse.bursie at oracle.com <mailto:magnus.ihse.bursie at oracle.com>>
> wrote:
>
> On 2018-03-28 22:39, Martin Buchholz wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 12:07 PM, Magnus Ihse Bursie
>> <magnus.ihse.bursie at oracle.com
>> <mailto:magnus.ihse.bursie at oracle.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Anyway, with this patch all symbols in executables will be
>> visible, so there should be no problem anyway.
>>
>>
>> The symbols visible in the main executable are a sort-of-public
>> interface. The difference is visible via e.g. nm -D, or any
>> native code that does dlsym(NULL, symbolName) (yes, we do
>> this!). The behavior of native code is likely to be affected if
>> there is a symbol conflict. The larger the exported symbol
>> table, the more overhead there will be at startup (probably). The
>> theory is that changing an interface requires a CSR.
>
> If I understand your objections correctly, you are claiming
> (correct me if I'm misunderstanding you):
>
> 1) Removing the mapfiles will affect performance negatively
>
> 2) The exported symbols from executables are a public API and the
> change therefore require a CSR.
>
> To this I reply:
>
> 1) While theoretically this might affect startup time, I can't for
> the life of me think this would even be measurable. I think any
> uncertainities in the measurement of the startup of "java" will
> dwarf any changes due to loading with a different set of exported
> symbols, in several orders of magnitude. If you claim otherwise, I
> challenge you to do the measurements.
>
>
> It's true the performance loss here is very small - every java program
> might be a microsecond slower to start up.
>
> 2) If this is a public API, then show me the documentation. If
> there is no documentation, then this is not a public interface.
> Just the fact that you might have used "nm" to locate symbols in a
> native file and use it, does not mean it's a public interface that
> requires a CSR to change. If that would be the case, then we could
> not ever do any change to any native file without filing a CSR,
> which is obviously absurd.
>
>
> Jigsaw team just spent 10 years working to prevent people from
> accessing Java internals. But here the proposal for ELF symbols is
> "just make everything public" Every ELF symbol that is needlessly
> exported is something that someone might build a dependency on or
> might cause a name conflict. ELF files don't have much encapsulation
> - all they have is public and private.
>
> If you have code that are dependent on a certain set of symbols or
> whatnot, and you want it to keep functioning, then I recommend
> that you file a bug and submit a patch to get it into mainline. If
> you're just collecting a bunch of downstream patches, and this
> change make your life harder, well, then, sorry, that's not my
> problem.
>
>
> No, actually making everything public/exporting all symbols will
> probably make Google local changes easier to maintain - no map files!
>
> I would prefer if build team worked on generating map files with
> minimal symbols exported, instead of removing them entirely.
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