<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Apr 26, 2011, at 12:57 AM, Steve Poole wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Times; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: monospace; "><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">People can become quickly enthused (and stay with it to become a long<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">term contributor) OR they go away and incorrectly assume OpenJDK isn't<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">really open.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I'm concerned that your definition of "open" means we must strictly follow a style or<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">pre-defined template for building.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">We want to explore some techniques, some new, some old, that could be a big win<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">to building in record time, so we may need to color outside the lines for a while.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote>For me being open is simple: the build process is "open" if it doesn't require proprietary or hidden tools. In some cases that rule gets broken where there is no free alternative to a critical tool but that should be the only (and rare) exception.</span></span></blockquote></div><br><div>No hidden tools. But it is impossible for us to avoid using any proprietary OS or compiler.</div><div><br></div><div>-kto</div><div><br></div></body></html>