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        at other folks who are contributing -- "this is the most useful
        general-purpose bench IMO".</font></font><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/26/2023 11:45 AM, Adam Sotona
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Unfortunately  </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">AdaptNull/SHARED_3</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"> does not include symbols conversions and
            building performance (the use case of ProxyGenerator).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">I’ll try to add a benchmark focused on building
            from symbols.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
              </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Brian
              Goetz <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:brian.goetz@oracle.com"><brian.goetz@oracle.com></a><br>
              <b>Date: </b>Wednesday, 26 April 2023 17:19<br>
              <b>To: </b>Adam Sotona <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:adam.sotona@oracle.com"><adam.sotona@oracle.com></a>,
              <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:liangchenblue@gmail.com">liangchenblue@gmail.com</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:liangchenblue@gmail.com"><liangchenblue@gmail.com></a>,
              classfile-api-dev <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:classfile-api-dev@openjdk.org"><classfile-api-dev@openjdk.org></a><br>
              <b>Subject: </b>Re: Caching symbolic descriptors for the
              constant pool<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Courier New"">BTW,
            I have found the AdaptNull/SHARED_3 benchmark to extremely
            useful for detecting *overall* regressions/improvements. 
            (Obviously targeted benchmarks are more useful for targeted
            problems like this one, but if people are going to run one
            bench before and after a change, it should be this one.)</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">On
              4/26/2023 11:12 AM, Adam Sotona wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">FYI: Here is draft of pull request with
              initial batch of performance improvements (no API change):</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"><a href="https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/pull/13671" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/pull/13671</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">It is branched from PR13478 due to its
              significant changes in StackMapGenerator.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Here are some first measurable improvements:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Benchmark                     Mode  Cnt      
              Score       Error  Units</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">GenerateStackMaps.benchmark  thrpt   10 
              407931.202 ± 13101.023  ops/s</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">improved by approx 15% to:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">GenerateStackMaps.benchmark  thrpt   10 
              470826.720 ±  3569.194  ops/s</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Adam</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
                </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">classfile-api-dev
                <a href="mailto:classfile-api-dev-retn@openjdk.org" moz-do-not-send="true">
                  <classfile-api-dev-retn@openjdk.org></a> on
                behalf of Adam Sotona <a href="mailto:adam.sotona@oracle.com" moz-do-not-send="true">
                  <adam.sotona@oracle.com></a><br>
                <b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 25 April 2023 16:25<br>
                <b>To: </b>Brian Goetz <a href="mailto:brian.goetz@oracle.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><brian.goetz@oracle.com></a>,
                <a href="mailto:liangchenblue@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">liangchenblue@gmail.com</a>
                <a href="mailto:liangchenblue@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">
                  <liangchenblue@gmail.com></a>, classfile-api-dev
                <a href="mailto:classfile-api-dev@openjdk.org" moz-do-not-send="true">
                  <classfile-api-dev@openjdk.org></a><br>
                <b>Subject: </b>Re: Caching symbolic descriptors for
                the constant pool</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">I think it perfectly fits to the performance
              improvements I’m working on.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">The “caching” here means to 1:1 store symbol
              with PoolEntry after the first request or when the entry
              has been created from the symbol.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">There is no risk of any growing global
              caches.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">If the Constants API will also “cache”
              internal class name in ClassDesc and ClassDescs of the
              MethodTypeDesc parameters and return type.
            </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Then we can achieve paths with minimal or no
              conversions, for example:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">ClassDesc -> MethodTypeDesc ->
              CodeBuilder -> PoolEntry -> InvokeInstruction ->
              StackMapGenerator -> ClassHierarchyResolver ->
              ClassDesc -> internal class name ->
              StackMapGenerator.Type -> PoolEntry -> BufWriterImpl
              -> internal class name</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
                </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">classfile-api-dev
                <a href="mailto:classfile-api-dev-retn@openjdk.org" moz-do-not-send="true">
                  <classfile-api-dev-retn@openjdk.org></a> on
                behalf of Brian Goetz <a href="mailto:brian.goetz@oracle.com" moz-do-not-send="true">
                  <brian.goetz@oracle.com></a><br>
                <b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 25 April 2023 16:12<br>
                <b>To: </b><a href="mailto:liangchenblue@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">liangchenblue@gmail.com</a>
                <a href="mailto:liangchenblue@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">
                  <liangchenblue@gmail.com></a>, classfile-api-dev
                <a href="mailto:classfile-api-dev@openjdk.org" moz-do-not-send="true">
                  <classfile-api-dev@openjdk.org></a><br>
                <b>Subject: </b>Re: Caching symbolic descriptors for
                the constant pool</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">For caching symbols in the
                Class API, this is fine but we should wait a
                <br>
                bit.  Doing caching raises the question of where the
                cache lives and how <br>
                long it lives; we had some discussions recently about
                caching for class <br>
                hierarchy info, and concluded that we had reached the
                limits of what we <br>
                can do with static entry points.  By refactoring the
                main entry points <br>
                (build/parse) to instance methods on a user-controlled
                "classfile <br>
                context" object, we create a logical place and lifetime
                for caches, of <br>
                which we now have two examples.<br>
                <br>
                Adam currently has a queue of patches he is trying to
                shepherd in, after <br>
                which we will look at refactoring the CHA functionality,
                after which we <br>
                will look at refactoring the "front door", and then that
                should leave a <br>
                natural place to slot in caching of symbolic constants.<br>
                <br>
                On 4/24/2023 7:18 PM, - wrote:<br>
                > First, thanks for the feedback on my cache proposal
                a few days ago!<br>
                > I've prepared two patches under 8306697<br>
                > <a href="https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/pull/13598and" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/pull/13598and</a>
                8306698<br>
                > <a href="https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/pull/13599" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/pull/13599</a>,
                which will hopefully make<br>
                > the Constant API more useful with classfiles.<br>
                ><br>
                > I wish to cache symbolic descriptors in classfile
                API itself. One of<br>
                > the prime candidates identified by Adam in his
                migration of<br>
                > java.lang.invoke to classfile API is
                ClassEntry.asSymbol, which from<br>
                > my search, appears to be frequently used in stack
                map generation. In<br>
                > addition, a MethodTypeDesc is passed to stack map
                generator<br>
                > constructor via ofDescriptor (which has slow
                parsing even after Adam's<br>
                > optimization), but the parsing can totally be
                averted if we can reuse<br>
                > the MethodTypeDesc passed in withMethod(). Thus, I
                wish to add<br>
                > accessors like typeSymbol() and cachedTypeSymbol()
                for MethodInfo to<br>
                > speed up StackMapGenerator initialization.<br>
                ><br>
                > In addition, the stack map generator has a custom
                bitset-based tool to<br>
                > split a descriptor on the fly (See<br>
                > StackMapGenerator.processInvokeInstructions). I
                believe they can<br>
                > benefit from reusing a parsed MethodTypeDesc as
                well, especially if<br>
                > the invoke instructions were originally built with
                MethodTypeDesc.<br>
                ><br>
                > Chen Liang</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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