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<body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><div>I agree playing audio was difficult to navigate when I first tried it. I’m a relative outsider to this group and have no sway over things like documentation, but for anyone interested in doing their own legwork on this topic: here’s some code I used to help manage audio:</div><div><br /></div><div>The audio player itself:</div><div><a href="https://github.com/mickleness/pumpernickel/blob/master/src/main/java/com/pump/audio/AudioPlayer.java">https://github.com/mickleness/pumpernickel/blob/master/src/main/java/com/pump/audio/AudioPlayer.java</a></div><div><br /></div><div>A Swing component to help manage it:</div><div><a href="https://github.com/mickleness/pumpernickel/blob/master/src/main/java/com/pump/swing/AudioPlayerComponent.java">https://github.com/mickleness/pumpernickel/blob/master/src/main/java/com/pump/swing/AudioPlayerComponent.java</a></div>
<div style="clear:both"><br /></div><div style="clear:both">A jar that executes it:</div><div style="clear:both"><a href="https://github.com/mickleness/pumpernickel/tree/master/release/jars">https://github.com/mickleness/pumpernickel/tree/master/release/jars</a></div><div style="clear:both"><br /></div><div style="clear:both">A video of the Swing code in action that demos a couple different UIs:</div><div style="clear:both"><a href="https://screenpal.com/watch/cZVVYZVHymx">https://screenpal.com/watch/cZVVYZVHymx</a></div><div style="clear:both"><br /></div><div style="clear:both"> - Jeremy</div>
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<div>From <a href="mailto:mark.yagnatinsky@barclays.com">mark.yagnatinsky@barclays.com</a></div>
<div>To <a href="mailto:swinxythecat@gmail.com">swinxythecat@gmail.com</a></div>
<div>Cc <a href="mailto:client-libs-dev@openjdk.org">client-libs-dev@openjdk.org</a></div>
<div>Date 12/31/23, 2:43:09 PM</div>
<div>Subject RE: the easiest ways to play an audio clip are the discouraged ones</div></div><div><br /></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Resending; last one got blocked due to message size so trimming previous conversation<o:p xmlns:o="#unknown"></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Yagnatinsky, Mark : Markets Pre Trade <br />
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 26, 2023 12:18 AM<br />
<b>To:</b> 'SWinxy' <<a href="mailto:swinxythecat@gmail.com">swinxythecat@gmail.com</a>><br />
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:client-libs-dev@openjdk.org">client-libs-dev@openjdk.org</a><br />
<b>Subject:</b> RE: the easiest ways to play an audio clip are the discouraged ones<o:p xmlns:o="#unknown"></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for responding. And thanks for the history page!!<o:p xmlns:o="#unknown"></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The sad thing is that the issue is not just a documentation issue.<o:p xmlns:o="#unknown"></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">It really does takes around five dozen of lines of code to do accomplish the following task:<o:p xmlns:o="#unknown"></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">“play a sound file on my disk without leaking any resources”<o:p xmlns:o="#unknown"></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">(Or at least, I haven’t found a way to do it in much less than five dozen lines.)<o:p xmlns:o="#unknown"></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">AudioAction is also “intern-ish”: it seems designed to be called from look & feel code.<o:p xmlns:o="#unknown"></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As for the tutorials: I realize they are barely maintained and I wish they still were.<o:p xmlns:o="#unknown"></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">But I see they still get occasional updates. Maybe this one could be improved.<o:p xmlns:o="#unknown"></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I suspect the sound tutorial has had no big updates since 1998, though the history page you linked claims 2006 for Java 6… (but where’s getClip() then?)<o:p xmlns:o="#unknown"></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But lack of good docs is merely the second-biggest problem.<o:p xmlns:o="#unknown"></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The biggest is that the API provides no easy way to accomplish what should be a trivial task.<o:p xmlns:o="#unknown"></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Ideally the following lines of code should Just Work:<o:p xmlns:o="#unknown"></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">javax.sound.Player.playAsync(url); // fire and forget; leaks nothing<o:p xmlns:o="#unknown"></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">javax.sound.Player.playAndWait(url); // returns once playback is done, leaks nothing.<o:p xmlns:o="#unknown"></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I shouldn’t have to know about ULAW vs ALAW vs PCM.<o:p xmlns:o="#unknown"></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I shouldn’t even have to know about sampled vs midi.<o:p xmlns:o="#unknown"></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">(For nontrivial things, obviously those are very different; but not for something this simple.)<o:p xmlns:o="#unknown"></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I shouldn’t have to implement line listeners and create a countdown latch.<o:p xmlns:o="#unknown"></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">It really shouldn’t be this hard!<o:p xmlns:o="#unknown"></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The current difficulty level is high enough that people will ask themselves:<o:p xmlns:o="#unknown"></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">“do I really need add sound support? Maybe I can live without it?”<o:p xmlns:o="#unknown"></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">It should be easy enough that you can do it on a whim!<o:p xmlns:o="#unknown"></o:p></p>
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