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I wrote to Microsoft and they suggested to use the New APIs
(ToastNotification) meant for the purpose<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/design/shell/tiles-and-notifications/toast-notifications-overview">https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/design/shell/tiles-and-notifications/toast-notifications-overview</a>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/design/shell/tiles-and-notifications/send-local-toast-desktop-cpp-wrl">https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/design/shell/tiles-and-notifications/send-local-toast-desktop-cpp-wrl</a><br>
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Shell_NotifyIcon API is clearly unsupported after 25/30 years on a
modern OS.<br>
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If you are a Java programmer, you can't send an OS notification.<br>
<br>
OS Notifications are very crucial to most apps this days, <br>
I can't imagine how Java can overlook it.<br>
<br>
Since you don't accept it as a bug (Oracle is closing all the bug
reports from people on this), <br>
I opened a feature request on this in the hope that someone wise
will look at it.<br>
<br>
Kind Regards,<br>
Davide<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 08/01/2024 22:05, Davide Perini ha
scritto:<br>
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Thanks for the explanation Aleksei <br>
but can you explain me what is the OpenJDK direction please?<br>
<br>
Suppose that you have a feature like this one, a simple
notifications.<br>
Java worked well with Windows notifications until Win10,<br>
then Microsoft changed the APIs for notifications in Win11.<br>
<br>
Isn't OpenJDK supposed to adapt to the new Windows APIs?<br>
<br>
Does OpenJDK supports Windows 11 or not?<br>
<br>
It's a little "weird" to close an issue by saying that Java uses
the same way to do the same thing since Windows 95 <br>
and that it's a Microsoft problem if they changed the way to send
notifications to the OS.<br>
<br>
Java should support Microsoft Windows, it isn't Microsoft Windows
that should support Java, <br>
isn't it?<br>
<br>
Other languages adapted their APIs for the new notifications
system, like everyone should expect from a modern language, <br>
after 2 years from the release of Win 11,<br>
Oracle says that it worked since Windows 95, so it is ok to have a
broken API in JDK because it worked before, they are the ones who
broke it (Microsoft).<br>
<br>
Does Java offers a correct way to send Notifications in Win10?
Answer: Yes<br>
Does Java offers a correct way to send Notifications in Win11?
Answer: No<br>
Does other languages offers a correct way to send Notifications in
Win11? Answer: Yes<br>
Does current JDK APIs works as expected in Win11? <br>
Answer: No because JDK uses an old API born with Win95 (30 years
ago + or -) with a new OS born in 2021, this results in an
unexcpected behaviour that doesn't work as supposed initially by
the API.<br>
<br>
In the bug report you wrote:<br>
"I can't see what Java can do to change the behaviour."<br>
<br>
The answer is:<br>
"By implementing the correct API for the correct OS".<br>
<br>
<br>
Java is currently not able to correctly send a Notification in
Windows 11.<br>
<br>
<br>
I see a bug there, if you don't see it, <br>
I'm pretty worried of the new JDK direction.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
Davide<br>
<br>
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Il 08/01/2024 20:55, Aleksei Ivanov ha scritto:<br>
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On 2024-01-08 19:30, Davide Perini wrote:<br>
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Thanks for the Answer Aleksei,<br>
I have a lot of Windows apps that uses notifications without
problems.<br>
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even a simple python program like this works correctly.<br>
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<pre
style="font-family:'JetBrains Mono',monospace;font-size:9,8pt;"><span
style="color:#cf8e6d;">from </span>win11toast <span
style="color:#cf8e6d;">import </span>toast
toast(<span style="color:#6aab73;">'Hello'</span>, <span
style="color:#6aab73;">'Click to run python script'</span>)</pre>
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Python could use newer WinRT APIs [6], in particular
ToastNotification class [7] which provide richer interface for
the toast notifications. The package name ‘toast’ hints it uses
the newer APIs.<br>
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cite="mid:9ecd6e22-3eb1-489b-b166-652a2fd1bf22@dpsoftware.org">is
it possible that Microsoft changed the way how to create
Notifications in Windows 11 and Java still uses the way it
worked in Windows 7?<br>
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Perhaps, Microsoft changed how they handle notifications in
Windows 11. In Windows 10, the notifications created with a Java
app remain in Action / Notification centre.<br>
<br>
Java uses Shell_NotifyIcon [8] function that has been available
since Windows 95.<br>
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-- <br>
Regards,<br>
Alexey<br>
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[6] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/uwp/cpp-and-winrt-apis/"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/uwp/cpp-and-winrt-apis/</a><br>
[7] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/uwp/api/windows.ui.notifications.toastnotification?view=winrt-22621"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/uwp/api/windows.ui.notifications.toastnotification?view=winrt-22621</a><br>
[8] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/shellapi/nf-shellapi-shell_notifyiconw"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/shellapi/nf-shellapi-shell_notifyiconw</a><br>
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Thanks<br>
Davide<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 08/01/2024 17:59, Aleksei
Ivanov ha scritto:<br>
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cite="mid:b82b650e-63d0-4b61-af42-25b693d512a8@oracle.com">Hi
Davide, <br>
<br>
The bug that you reported has been moved to JDK project in
JBS, you can view it as JDK-8315647 [1]. You should've
received a link to it. <br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Is there a way to workaround this
JDK bug? <br>
I opened a bug report months ago but no one answered. </blockquote>
<br>
What kind of answer did you expect to receive? <br>
<br>
You already asked this question on this mailing list in
August [2]. I replied to your question [3]. Nothing has
changed since August. It is not a bug in Java because a
native Win32 app behaves the same way. <br>
<br>
I compiled and tested the sample [4], it behaves in Windows
11 as Java does: the displayed balloon notification does not
go to notification centre. However, if I open notification
centre while the balloon is displayed, it remains there. If
I disable "Show notification banners" and leave "Show
notifications in notification centre" enabled, the balloon
goes directly to notification centre without displaying a
banner. <br>
<br>
You can compile and test the sample too: <br>
<br>
git clone --filter=<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="blob:none" moz-do-not-send="true">blob:none</a>
--sparse <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/microsoft/Windows-classic-samples.git__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!NLmQsIei56bZm5IGVWA45k6g1Dduh_MFpShFK0TzjLM7OJHlH90je29IlZRa410GYcehUmNb21kyLplVv8fTzwWsci7s6yw2$"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/microsoft/Windows-classic-samples.git</a>
windows-samples <br>
cd windows-samples <br>
git sparse-checkout add
Samples/Win7Samples/winui/shell/appshellintegration/NotificationIcon
<br>
<br>
Navigate to the NotificationIcon folder and open
NotificationIcon.sln in Visual Studio to compile and run it.
<br>
<br>
If required, I can attach the compiled version of the
application. <br>
<br>
<br>
I have closed JDK-8315647 as duplicate of JDK-8310352 [5]. <br>
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