<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace">Hey, any updates on this? I understand if not, but accessibility in Swing is important to me, even more so for the abovementioned reasons.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 5:52 AM David Alayachew <<a href="mailto:davidalayachew@gmail.com">davidalayachew@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">And thank you.</p>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 11, 2025, 12:50 AM Abhishek Kumar <<a href="mailto:abhishek.cx.kumar@oracle.com" target="_blank">abhishek.cx.kumar@oracle.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Hello David,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:rgb(29,28,29);background:rgb(248,248,248)">Yeah, I will evaluate if existing JDK implementation can be extended to work with Windows Magnifier. I didn’t get enough time to look into this
issue due to other issues but this is on my to-do list. I will update my findings on JBS after my analysis.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Thank you for your patience.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Abhishek<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="color:black">David Alayachew <<a href="mailto:davidalayachew@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">davidalayachew@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 11 February 2025 at 4:39</span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black">AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Philip Race <<a href="mailto:philip.race@oracle.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">philip.race@oracle.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Abhishek Kumar <<a href="mailto:abhishek.cx.kumar@oracle.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">abhishek.cx.kumar@oracle.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:client-libs-dev@openjdk.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">client-libs-dev@openjdk.org</a> <<a href="mailto:client-libs-dev@openjdk.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">client-libs-dev@openjdk.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[External] : Re: Windows Magnifier does not work with my Swing applications<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p>Ok, ty vm. Hey Abhishek, any updates?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p>Poke.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Any new info?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p>Hello Phil,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Did you get any more info about this issue?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">Yeah, I am A-OK as long as this something that is looked into and the JBS Bug Report is updated with the findings. If this isn't too bad, this would be a solid inclusion. But if it's not worth the
effort, I just want the JBS to be updated, and then I can put that as an answer for my StackOverflow post.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">Thanks again for taking a look into this.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Perhaps .. if it is an easy fix but I do not know the specifics and the evaluator of that bug wrote<br>
"<span style="color:rgb(23,43,77);background:white">the magnifier cannot receive PropertyChangeEvents from Swing. This is a limitation in the Window magnifier.
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The Windows magnifier could be modified by Microsoft to receive such events but the work would need to be done by Microsoft."<br>
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then went on to add that other magnifiers do work ..<br>
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I also don't know how tied in this would be to implementing support for the Windows Accessibility API.<br>
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Swing apps today use something called JavaAccessBridge and there are screen readers out there that support it.<br>
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It would be good to have another look at this specific issue, but I can't make any promises.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">My eyesite has started to deteriorate significantly, so I have been using the built-in Accessibility tool called Windows (Screen) Magnifier (available since Windows XP at least). It zooms in and out
of the screen by pressing the Windows Key and (+) or (-).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">This works great because, as I type stuff, the magnifier will follow my text, so that I don't have to keep manually moving the magnifier whenever what I type inevitably ends up off-screen (off-view?).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">This feature works great for basically every other application I have, except my Swing apps. I make a lot of Swing apps, and I use a bunch too. And this Magnifier feature that follows text does not
work for any of the ones I have tried.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">This feature does work on basically every other application I have. To name a few.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">* Notepad++<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">* WordPad<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">* Firefox<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">* Git Bash<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><a href="https://bugs.openjdk.org/browse/JDK-5079680" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bugs.openjdk.org/browse/JDK-5079680</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">The resolution was listed as "Future Project". Any chance that the future can be now?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">I know that Swing is largely in maintenance mode, but if this were to get added, practically ALL Swing apps would receive a significant boost in accessibility. I think that's worth making some significant
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">Finally, here is a StackOverflow post I made discussing the same subject.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">Thank you for your time.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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