Indexing access for Lists and Maps considered harmful?

Ted Neward ted at tedneward.com
Wed Jun 24 00:56:48 PDT 2009


No. I will strongly oppose any effort to "move away from 100% consistency",
regardless of how many people on this list use a particular feature or if
it's an area that "almost nobody uses". Languages have to be consistent, or
developers' faith in that language begins to erode and the language itself
begins to die.

Anything less is irresponsible.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: coin-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net [mailto:coin-dev-
> bounces at openjdk.java.net] On Behalf Of Mark Thornton
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:51 AM
> To: Reinier Zwitserloot
> Cc: coin-dev at openjdk.java.net
> Subject: Re: Indexing access for Lists and Maps considered harmful?
> 
> Reinier Zwitserloot wrote:
> > Conclusion: I think we need to move away from being 100% consistent
> in
> > an area (pass-through assignment) that almost nobody uses. It's not
> >
> I use it. Admittedly not often, but it is there. After writing Java for
> about 12 years there probably isn't much that I haven't used at least
> once.
> 
> Anyone else want to admit to using this?
> 
> Regards from Almost Nobody,
> Mak Thornton




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