Hello Coin

[Joe Darcy]

Hello,

On 11/20/2013 2:20 PM, Ben Evans wrote:
> Hi Francis,
>
> I think it's fair to say that this email list has reached the end of its
> life, and should be considered no longer active.

Yes, I will be looking into making the list formally inactive / archived.

We currently have no plans to run an open call for proposals as was done 
for Coin in JDK 7. Language changes, and other substantial changes to 
the platform, will be managed in the JEP process:

     http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/1

There is no need to send additional language proposals to this list at 
this time.

Cheers,

-Joe

>
> >From my experience with OpenJDK and the development of the language, I
> recommend that you develop a prototype implementation against OpenJDK &
> then contact the relevant OpenJDK group, after you have a working prototype.
>
> You will get a great deal further if you show up with a working prototype,
> even if it is a bit basic, than with an idea alone.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ben
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Francis ANDRE <
> francis.andre.kampbell at orange.fr> wrote:
>
>> Hi Coin List
>>
>> I did not receive any answer on my previous request which means certainly
>> that
>> there is no more open call for proposals. Anyway, I will bring my 2 cents
>> to the
>> coin distributor!...
>>
>>
>> I would like Java to offer "true" array/arrays... And you would say: Hey
>> guy,
>> what is a "true" array, Java gets already the array concept... Well, let me
>> explain a little bit. In java one declares an array of int for example as
>>
>> int[] myInts;   // myInts, an array of int
>>
>> and the allocation of the array by
>>
>> myints = new array[10];   // myints is an array of 10 int
>> myints[0] = 90;  // the int at index 0 is now 90. The index of an array
>> starts
>> at 0 and ends at myints.length - 1
>> myints[9] = 99;  // the int at index 9 is now 99
>>
>>
>> This view of an array starting at 0 is more an implementer view that is
>> considering the first element of the array is starting at the offset 0 of
>> the
>> base of the array....But in mathematics, an array has usually an lower
>> bound and
>> an upper bound which are not always 0 and length - 1. Thus from my point of
>> view, an "true" array should have a lower bound and an upper bound as in
>> many
>> others computer languages (as Algol, PL/1 for example)
>>
>> Thus, I would propose a more abstract view of an array like
>>
>> int[] myints;
>> myints = new array[-100:100];
>> myints[-100] = 0;
>> myints[0] = 0;
>>
>> with obviously all adapted controls and exception like an index out of
>> array
>> range and a length = upperbound - lowerbound + 1
>>
>> myints[500] = 0; // throw an index out of array bound exception
>> myints.length == upperbound - lowerbound + 1 // this is true
>>
>> That's all folks!
>>
>> FA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 23/10/2013 08:03, Francis ANDRE a écrit :
>>> Hi Coin list
>>>
>>> I discovered this discussion list recently -- coin is not an obvious
>> slang for a
>>> non US guy, so the discovery was more by curiosity than understanding --
>> and I
>>> am wondering if there will be another open call for proposals in near
>> future?
>>> Francis
>>>
>>>
>>
>>