Assertions in static blocks ?
David Holmes - Sun Microsystems
David.Holmes at Sun.COM
Tue Mar 9 14:18:20 PST 2010
Ulf Zibis said the following on 03/10/10 03:39:
> Am 08.03.2010 23:48, schrieb David Holmes - Sun Microsystems:
>> Ulf Zibis said the following on 03/08/10 22:40:
>>> Am 07.03.2010 23:20, schrieb David Holmes - Sun Microsystems:
>>>> I'm with Keith and Neal, this is all "working as designed". How can
>>>> javac in general know whether or not a class will be initialized.
>>>
>>> This is not the question here. The question is if it *can* be
>>> initialized, (1) via standard java instruction or (2) via any other
>>> special magic like reflective call from Class.forName(). javac surely
>>> has knowledge about that.
>>
>> Both (1) and (2) depend on your whole program not the class being
>> compiled. So javac can not know the answer to this at compile time.
>
> Sorry, maybe I'm missing something. Can you give me an example how
> static initializer could be triggered by (1), if there are only static
> final primitive type constants in that class?
In that case it can't. And as I said previously the special case where a
class consists only of these constant fields (initialized by
compile-time constant expressions) but still has a static initializer,
could be a case where javac issued a warning.
If you feel this strongly about it just file an RFE or prepare a fix.
Cheers,
David Holmes
>>
>>> If (1) could never be reached, there should be a warning, in
>>> particular for less experienced programmers, E.g.:
>>> "static initializer will never be triggered by any member or method
>>> of this class. Could only be invoked by loading the class explicitly
>>> or inherently(not sure)"
>>
>> No that doesn't make sense. A classes own methods/members are not the
>> trigger for classloading and/or initialization. It is the use of those
>> methods/members by other classes that triggers the
>> loading/initialization of the class containing the method/member.
>
> Sorry for the bad wording, I meant "... triggered by access to any
> member or method of this class. ..."
> or "There are no members or methods which could trigger the static
> initializer to run, so it may be never reached. ..."
>
>>
>>>> A static initializer is no different to a method or constructor in
>>>> that regard: none of them are ever flagged as unreachable because
>>>> that can't be determined a-priori by javac.
>>>
>>> IMHO there is a _big_ difference on normal constructors and methods:
>>> 1. They _can_ always be executed by normal java instruction.
>>> 2. They will _never_ be executed, if not explicitly called from code.
>>> On static initializers it's quite different:
>>> 1. They _cannot_ be executed by normal java instruction.
>>> 2. They will _mostly_ be _automatically_ executed but not ever, if a
>>> member/method from it's class is called
>>
>> The implicit vs explicit nature of the execution doesn't change the
>> fact that to determine if either is executed you need to look at the
>> whole program - not just the class(es) being compiled.
>
> Yes, but I can't imagine any other trigger than meant under (2).
>
> Hope, that I'm bothering too much,
>
> -Ulf
>
>
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