Mailing lists for specification of enhanced metadata in Java SE 8

[Neil Richards]

Hi Alex,

Once created, will these mailing lists appear (for subscription) on
mail.openjdk.java.net, alongside the other (existing) lists ?

Is your intent that (the traffic on) both mailing lists are publicly
archived, or is -experts traffic to be more "closed".

Would you expect the experts to subscribe to both lists, so they can
see/respond to discussion in -observers ?

Would you expect interested observers to subscribe to both lists, so
they can see the pronouncements of the experts in -experts ?

Do you expect the traffic on -experts to be moderated, whilst that on
-observers is unmoderated ?

I'm trying to understand the working distinction between these two
lists, so I understand (as an interested observer) how I should interact
with them.

Regards,
Neil

On Fri, 2012-07-20 at 12:09 -0700, Alex Buckley wrote:
> Since no member of the Compiler Group is objecting to my invitation, I 
> will go ahead and ask the OpenJDK infra team to create the lists.
> 
> The -experts list will initially be populated by myself, Joe Darcy, and 
> Joel Borggrén-Franck, all from Oracle's Java LangTools team. I will 
> shortly invite other experts who I know to be interested in repeating 
> annotations (mainly from the Java EE world).
> 
> Alex
> 
> On 7/18/2012 12:31 PM, Alex Buckley wrote:
> > Oracle has previously submitted JEPs for features which enhance the
> > metadata declared in, and available to, Java programs:
> >
> > - Access to Parameter Names at Runtime (JEP 118)
> > http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/118
> >
> > - Repeating Annotations (JEP 120)
> > http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/120
> >
> > These features change the Java language, JVM, and java.* API as part of
> > the Java SE 8 Platform Umbrella JSR (337) led by Oracle.
> >
> > Work on specifications for Java SE JSRs may now take place in the
> > OpenJDK Community, per the OpenJDK Terms of Use [1].
> >
> > I would therefore like to invite the Compiler Group to sponsor mailing
> > lists for discussion of the design and specification of these features:
> >
> > 1) enhanced-metadata-spec-experts, for discussion by invited experts.
> >
> > 2) enhanced-metadata-spec-observers, for observation and discussion of
> > the -experts traffic by interested parties.
> >
> > Contributions to both lists will be licensed under
> > comment-and-evaluation terms. Anyone making material contributions to
> > either list must sign the OCA. Please see the OpenJDK Terms of Use FAQ
> > [2] for more information.
> >
> > Feature implementation will be discussed on compiler-dev and hosted in
> > the jdk8/tl forest.
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > [1] http://openjdk.java.net/legal/tou/
> > [2] http://openjdk.java.net/legal/tou/faq


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