Draft JEP proposal: JDK-8200758: Packaging Tool

[Scott Palmer]

Right, I explicitly want to make the distinction between this and the “Multiple launchers” stretch goal.  I want to use the "multiple launchers” as well. 

One way that I have used multiple launchers (on Linux, I don’t think I could get it to work on Windows) is to have one launcher be a service/daemon and a second launcher be a configuration utility for the service.

I have some cases where multiple services are installed, each can be independent, but normally they are part of several different product suites.  The total product itself can share a JRE, that’s where I want the option to specify a private, shared JRE.  

The JRE often makes up the majority of the application’s size.  This can come down with jlink of course, but because of the nature of our product - with many plugins that are installed after the fact, we need a full JRE as we can’t anticipate what modules the plugins will need.

Scott

> On Jul 27, 2018, at 10:14 AM, Andy Herrick <andy.herrick at oracle.com> wrote:
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> I don't see why this isn't feasible, and will file such an enhancement request, but should be possible to deliver a suite of apps in one bundle.  This is the third 'stretch goal' : "Multiple launchers (enables a suite of applications to be bundled in a single self-contained application package)"
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> /Andy
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> On 7/27/2018 9:13 AM, Kevin Rushforth wrote:
>> > Will it be possible to NOT include the JRE, but specify instead a pre-existing location for the JRE?
>> 
>> This does seem like an interesting use case. As you say, it is similar in many ways to both the Multiple Launchers and system JRE, but not quite the same as either. The mechanism to manage and locate these shared-but-private JREs seems like the most challenging part. We can add it to the "if there is time" list of features, but I don't know how feasible it is for the first version. Andy or Alexey can comment as to whether the current prototype has done anything that would make this difficult.
>> 
>> -- Kevin
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>> 
>> On 7/26/2018 7:38 AM, Scott Palmer wrote:
>>> "The input to jpackager includes: a Java runtime image, and a Java application in one of several formats..."
>>> 
>>> Will it be possible to NOT include the JRE, but specify instead a pre-existing location for the JRE?
>>> 
>>> As an example use-case consider an office productivity suite where there are separate installers for a word processor and a spreadsheet application.  These applications are independent and can be installed in any combination (word processor only, both, spreadsheet only).  However they are part of the same versioned application suite and have been developed and tested with a particular JRE.  Only a single JRE needs to be installed.  The applications can share it.  This is not the same as using a system-wide JRE (is that even supported for Java 11 and beyond?).  But a shared private JRE controlled by the application developer.
>>> 
>>> This is similar but not the same as the proposed "Multiple launchers" feature (if time allows), as the shared JRE could be used by different software packages.
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>>> In many cases the JRE is a very large part of the software installation, both in terms of the size of the distributed installer package and the storage requirements of the installed application.  JRE sharing can help with this.
>>> 
>>> I'm thinking that eventually we could get to the point where developers could treat the JRE as a versioned dependency, also covering the case of customized JRE images.  I don't propose that this jpackager tool be involved in creating or distributing such JRE images, only that it supports running applications using a pre-installed JRE where the location can be determined at installer build time or perhaps install time.
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>>> This was possible with the javapackager tool.
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 25, 2018, at 7:12 PM, Kevin Rushforth <kevin.rushforth at oracle.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you to all who provided feedback. I have updated the draft JEP [1], and I think I have incorporated most of the feedback I received. Specifically, I have reorganized and reworded a few things for clarity, added '.exe' and '.app in a .dmg' native package format to the list of features, and added the service bundler (daemon) feature to the "if we have time" list (at the top of that list).
>>>> 
>>>> Please let me know if I missed an important point. I hope to submit this JEP in the next week or two.
>>>> 
>>>> -- Kevin
>>>> 
>>>> [1] https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8200758
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 5/30/2018 5:10 PM, Kevin Rushforth wrote:
>>>>> I would like to propose the following Draft JEP [1] for discussion.
>>>>> 
>>>>> JDK-8200758: Packaging Tool
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is intended as a JDK-scope replacement for the existing javapackager tool that ships with Oracle JDK 10 (and earlier Oracle JDK releases), and was delivered as part of the JavaFX build. The javapackager tool has been removed from Oracle JDK 11 along with the removal of JavaFX.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Comments on this JEP are welcome. It is currently not targeted for a specific release, but we are aiming for JDK 12.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- Kevin
>>>>> 
>>>>> [1] https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8200758
>>>>> 
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