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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/1/25 10:19 PM, Mukul Gandhi wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Hi Joe,
<div dir="auto"> Thanks for nice thoughts.<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 28 Feb, 2025,
00:06 Joe Wang, <<a href="mailto:huizhe.wang@oracle.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">huizhe.wang@oracle.com</a>>
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What's your assessment on the readiness for a formal
release (or how <br>
much additional work is needed)? What are the conformance
test results?<br>
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<div dir="auto">The link here, <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/apache/xalan-java/tree/xalan-j_xslt3.0_mvn__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!OqtC527gdej0VCBFTK7nmgy16OxpR-nNdOtLNNCE6OgHGcXoGC66GPEDSBTdcPEAk5gO-8fG5s86DRxOAw$" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/apache/xalan-java/tree/xalan-j_xslt3.0_mvn</a>
has a pdf link at bottom of that page which is Xalan-J XSL 3
implementation's latest development status. This link also has
documentation about how to run Xalan-J's XSL 3 conformance
test suite, which currently has 900+ odd tests supported by
Xalan-J covering wide areas of XSLT 3.0 and XPath 3.1 language
features.</div>
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<p>Great work. Are the tests counted differently? The W3C test suite
for XSLT 3.0 is said to "contain over 11,000 test cases". What
would be the pass rate if measured against the W3C test suite?</p>
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Also, do you have data showing how the Xalan-J's XSL 3
implementation is <br>
used in user applications? What are the feedback (or bug
reports) from <br>
developers?<br>
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<div dir="auto">I know of few people, particularly <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://x.com/XSLT_knowmad?t=ZKJE2bkeVyceZTxTmy1sPg&s=09__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!OqtC527gdej0VCBFTK7nmgy16OxpR-nNdOtLNNCE6OgHGcXoGC66GPEDSBTdcPEAk5gO-8fG5s_0qbsB_Q$" moz-do-not-send="true">https://x.com/XSLT_knowmad?t=ZKJE2bkeVyceZTxTmy1sPg&s=09</a>
and probably others who've been using Xalan-J's XSL 3
implementation. Gary Gregory (Apache Xalan's PMC chair) has
also rigorously tested Xalan-J's XSL 3 implementation and
reported it to be ok and useful.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Many thanks.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Regards,</div>
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On 2/26/25 7:59 AM, Mukul Gandhi wrote:<br>
> Hi Alan,<br>
> I've just seen this mail from you. Apologies for
a delayed response.<br>
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> My mail box has had few issues due to the volume of
mails that I get<br>
> from mailing lists.<br>
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> On Sun, Feb 2, 2025 at 9:38 PM Alan Bateman <<a href="mailto:alan.bateman@oracle.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">alan.bateman@oracle.com</a>>
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>> The stats for that branch suggest 5,845 changed
files with 234,372 additions and 84,058 deletions. I can't
easily tell how much of this would need to come into the
jdk repo but this looks like a major update. If only 10%
of this is applicable to the JDK then it still needs seems
like a major update that would require a huge investment
to audit and integrate this code. How much XML is in new
applications developed in 2025? Only asking because it's
an area that is surely much lower priority compared to all
the other major investments right now. Maybe there are
useful security or performance changes that would be
useful to cherry pick instead? Finally, does this Xalan
update work with the SPIs so that someone really looking
for XSL 3 can just deploy it on the class path and module
path?<br>
> Ofcourse, anyone could use Xalan-J's XSL 3
implementation with JDK by<br>
> placing Xalan jars on class path & module path.<br>
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> Since Xalan-J's XSLT 1.0 & XPath 1.0
implementations are already<br>
> available within JDK, I thought its natural if JDK
could pick<br>
> Xalan-J's XSL 3 implementation and include that
within JDK. I can<br>
> imagine that this may surely be time consuming for
someone from JDK<br>
> team to integrate with JDK. XSLT 1.0's use I think is
very less these<br>
> days particularly for new XML projects, due to vast
improvements in<br>
> language features offered by XSLT 3.0 and XPath 3.1.<br>
><br>
> IMHO, I wrote all the XSL 3 implementation code (and
solved various<br>
> XSL 3 implementation bugs reported by community on
Xalan-J's dev<br>
> forum) within Xalan-J's XSL 3 dev respos branch,
enhancing upon<br>
> Xalan-J's XSLT 1.0 implementation. From my point of
view, I'll be<br>
> happy if JDK could include Xalan-J's XSL 3
implementation.<br>
><br>
> I even wrote following two online articles on <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://xml.com__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!OqtC527gdej0VCBFTK7nmgy16OxpR-nNdOtLNNCE6OgHGcXoGC66GPEDSBTdcPEAk5gO-8fG5s-ku_DmTQ$" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">xml.com</a> about
few of XSL<br>
> 3 language features, and how they're implemented
within Xalan-J,<br>
> <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.xml.com/articles/2024/07/22/string-analysis-with-analyze-string/__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!OqtC527gdej0VCBFTK7nmgy16OxpR-nNdOtLNNCE6OgHGcXoGC66GPEDSBTdcPEAk5gO-8fG5s-o4MDiYw$" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.xml.com/articles/2024/07/22/string-analysis-with-analyze-string/</a><br>
> <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.xml.com/articles/2023/12/05/xml-path-language-xpath-higher-order-functions/__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!OqtC527gdej0VCBFTK7nmgy16OxpR-nNdOtLNNCE6OgHGcXoGC66GPEDSBTdcPEAk5gO-8fG5s_1qR7Epg$" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.xml.com/articles/2023/12/05/xml-path-language-xpath-higher-order-functions/</a><br>
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> Many thanks.<br>
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