From Joe.Darcy at Sun.COM Fri Feb 1 07:23:19 2008 From: Joe.Darcy at Sun.COM (Joseph D. Darcy) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:23:19 -0800 Subject: New Project approved: JDK 6 In-Reply-To: <17c6771e0801291328r2db8298che96d50927e7952a0@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080123052724.8CDD574FA@callebaut.niobe.net> <479754CE.1090509@redhat.com> <4798A7B7.8050106@kaffe.org> <47999057.1080602@sun.com> <17c6771e0801291328r2db8298che96d50927e7952a0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47A2C8E7.4080601@sun.com> Andrew John Hughes wrote: > On 25/01/2008, Joseph D. Darcy wrote: >> Dalibor Topic wrote: >>> Andrew Haley wrote: >>>> Mark Reinhold wrote: >>>>> Per the interim governance guidelines for Projects [1] I'm pleased to >>>>> announce the creation of the JDK 6 Project [2,3] following the Build >>>>> Group's decision [4] to sponsor it. >>>> How very splendid! Good news, indeed. >>> Yep, looking forward to see it developed out in the open. >>> >>> Joe, could you add a URL for the mercurial repository on the project's >>> web page? >> Hi Dalibor. >> >> I've sent out an email to the OpenJDK 6 dev list [1]. In summary, we >> won't have Mercurial repositories immediately; I'm working on the >> remaining Sun-internal processes to get the code out. I'll add a link >> to the source bundles and Mercurial repositories once they are available. >> >> -Joe >> >> [1] http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk6-dev/2008-January/000000.html >> > > I presume having this pass the JDK 6 TCK will require the Javascript > hole (and any other API facing ones) to be filled. Actually the JCK tests only cover the javax.script API itself and not any specific language, including javascript, so while this may be considered a functionality hole, it isn't a conformance one. -Joe From Joe.Darcy at Sun.COM Fri Feb 1 07:25:07 2008 From: Joe.Darcy at Sun.COM (Joseph D. Darcy) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:25:07 -0800 Subject: New Project approved: JDK 6 In-Reply-To: <1201774748.3155.20.camel@dijkstra.wildebeest.org> References: <20080123052724.8CDD574FA@callebaut.niobe.net> <479754CE.1090509@redhat.com> <4798A7B7.8050106@kaffe.org> <47999057.1080602@sun.com> <17c6771e0801291328r2db8298che96d50927e7952a0@mail.gmail.com> <47A0FEA0.1070309@sun.com> <1201774748.3155.20.camel@dijkstra.wildebeest.org> Message-ID: <47A2C953.4050906@sun.com> Mark Wielaard wrote: > Hi Joe, > > On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 14:48 -0800, Joseph D. Darcy wrote: >> What is the Javascript hole you are referring to? > > There are two 'holes' with respect to Javascript. > - The core library scripting doesn't currently support javascript. > This could be fixed by integrating Rhino > (http://www.mozilla.org/rhino/) > - There is a general hole with regard to applet support in browsers. > In IcedTea this is filled by integrating gcjwebplugin. > This works pretty nicely except for the java/javascript (LiveConnect) > support. Thomas Fitszimmons is working on a gcjweblugin rewrite to > make that happen. > > And maybe the Sun plugin code (which probably already has > LiveConnect implemented) could be added to OpenJDK one day. > But I don't know the status of that one. The plugin code is outside of the current scope of OpenJDK 6. Regards, -Joe From David.Herron at Sun.COM Fri Feb 1 14:21:04 2008 From: David.Herron at Sun.COM (David Herron) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 06:21:04 -0800 Subject: New Project approved: JDK 6 In-Reply-To: <47A2C8E7.4080601@sun.com> References: <20080123052724.8CDD574FA@callebaut.niobe.net> <479754CE.1090509@redhat.com> <4798A7B7.8050106@kaffe.org> <47999057.1080602@sun.com> <17c6771e0801291328r2db8298che96d50927e7952a0@mail.gmail.com> <47A2C8E7.4080601@sun.com> Message-ID: <47A32AD0.9000806@sun.com> Joseph D. Darcy wrote: > Andrew John Hughes wrote: >> On 25/01/2008, Joseph D. Darcy wrote: >>> Dalibor Topic wrote: >>>> Andrew Haley wrote: >>>>> Mark Reinhold wrote: >>>>>> Per the interim governance guidelines for Projects [1] I'm >>>>>> pleased to >>>>>> announce the creation of the JDK 6 Project [2,3] following the Build >>>>>> Group's decision [4] to sponsor it. >>>>> How very splendid! Good news, indeed. >>>> Yep, looking forward to see it developed out in the open. >>>> >>>> Joe, could you add a URL for the mercurial repository on the project's >>>> web page? >>> Hi Dalibor. >>> >>> I've sent out an email to the OpenJDK 6 dev list [1]. In summary, we >>> won't have Mercurial repositories immediately; I'm working on the >>> remaining Sun-internal processes to get the code out. I'll add a link >>> to the source bundles and Mercurial repositories once they are >>> available. >>> >>> -Joe >>> >>> [1] >>> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk6-dev/2008-January/000000.html >>> >>> >> >> I presume having this pass the JDK 6 TCK will require the Javascript >> hole (and any other API facing ones) to be filled. > > Actually the JCK tests only cover the javax.script API itself and not > any specific language, including javascript, so while this may be > considered a functionality hole, it isn't a conformance one. > > -Joe > As I understand it, the platform spec for javax.script is soley the API's for managing script engines. That's all the TCK would test because their scope is soley the spec'd stuff. We chose to deliver Rhino with the platform because it would add some useful additional abilities. That does not place Rhino within the scope that the TCK would test. - David Herron From David.Herron at Sun.COM Tue Feb 5 19:51:57 2008 From: David.Herron at Sun.COM (David Herron) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 11:51:57 -0800 Subject: download.java.net has had a hiccup Message-ID: <47A8BE5D.3020409@sun.com> BTW, in case you haven't noticed the download.java.net site had an outage starting yesterday and there are 'issues' still with the content on the server. The responsible parties are working on restoring it. I've only checked the status for jdk-distros.dev.java.net downloads. The jdk-distros developer information page currently has incorrect URL's for the download bundles. Some of the old URL's are currently functional, meaning it's possible to download older DLJ (jdk-distros) releases right now, if you know the older URL. - David Herron From mark at klomp.org Fri Feb 8 20:20:08 2008 From: mark at klomp.org (Mark Wielaard) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:20:08 +0100 Subject: Get ready for Fosdem - Free Java Meeting Message-ID: <1202502008.3359.54.camel@dijkstra.wildebeest.org> In just two weeks, 22 and 23 February, the Free Java Meeting will take place during Fosdem in Brussels, Belgium. There is a dynamic program with lots of (short) talks and space for discussions on the state of the various free java projects, mobile java, the VM and the Distro Rumble, the free java factory, cool stuff, freedom, compatibility, community and planning all the exciting stuff we are going to do together in the next year. So if you are interested in Debian-java, GNU Classpath, OpenJDK, JikesRVM, Fedora-java, IKVM.NET, JamVM, Jalimo, Mobile&Embedded, Kaffe, Gentoo-java, IcedTea, JNode, MIDPath, FBToolkit, Brandweg, Duchess, IcePick, HotSpot, "Zero", Ubuntu-java, and much, much more. Then please come and join us. More information on the program, who will be there and other activities at http://fosdem.org/2008/schedule/devroom/freejava and http://wiki.debian.org/Java/DevJam/2008/Fosdem Best of all, it is all free. You only have to pay the beer yourself *) Hope to see you all there! *) FOSDEM '08 is a free and non-commercial event organized by the community, for the community. Its goal is to provide Free Software and Open Source developers a place to meet. http://fosdem.org/ From neugens at limasoftware.net Fri Feb 8 20:24:42 2008 From: neugens at limasoftware.net (Mario Torre) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:24:42 +0100 Subject: Get ready for Fosdem - Free Java Meeting In-Reply-To: <1202502008.3359.54.camel@dijkstra.wildebeest.org> References: <1202502008.3359.54.camel@dijkstra.wildebeest.org> Message-ID: <1202502282.3862.27.camel@nirvana.limasoftware.net> Il giorno ven, 08/02/2008 alle 21.20 +0100, Mark Wielaard ha scritto: > You only have to pay the beer yourself *) But hey, this is also share alike what do you want more? :P Mario -- Lima Software - http://www.limasoftware.net/ GNU Classpath Developer - http://www.classpath.org/ Fedora Ambassador - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MarioTorre Jabber: neugens at jabber.org pgp key: http://subkeys.pgp.net/ PGP Key ID: 80F240CF Fingerprint: BA39 9666 94EC 8B73 27FA FC7C 4086 63E3 80F2 40CF Please, support open standards: http://opendocumentfellowship.org/petition/ http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Darcy wrote: > Hello. > > FYI, Sun plans to release the first source drop for OpenJDK 6 later > this week: > > http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk6-dev/2008-February/000001.html > > -Joe From Joe.Darcy at Sun.COM Mon Feb 11 22:06:42 2008 From: Joe.Darcy at Sun.COM (Joseph D. Darcy) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:06:42 -0800 Subject: Initial OpenJDK 6 code on the way In-Reply-To: <7BEE245B-1F70-4183-A823-E743AC392BA2@pobox.com> References: <47B0A7D2.5080106@sun.com> <7BEE245B-1F70-4183-A823-E743AC392BA2@pobox.com> Message-ID: <47B0C6F2.7040102@sun.com> Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > as someone not following the project too closely, what does that mean? > > Isn't the code already available? The code that is currently available is for JDK 7 and so includes API changes, etc. outside of the Java SE 6 specification. The goal of he OpenJDK 6 project is to provide an open source implementation of the Java SE 6 spec. -Joe > geir > > On Feb 11, 2008, at 2:53 PM, Joseph D. Darcy wrote: > >> Hello. >> >> FYI, Sun plans to release the first source drop for OpenJDK 6 later >> this week: >> >> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk6-dev/2008-February/000001.html >> >> -Joe > From David.Herron at Sun.COM Mon Feb 11 22:18:44 2008 From: David.Herron at Sun.COM (David Herron) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:18:44 -0800 Subject: Initial OpenJDK 6 code on the way In-Reply-To: <7BEE245B-1F70-4183-A823-E743AC392BA2@pobox.com> References: <47B0A7D2.5080106@sun.com> <7BEE245B-1F70-4183-A823-E743AC392BA2@pobox.com> Message-ID: <47B0C9C4.2000902@sun.com> Hi Geir, OpenJDK 6 != OpenJDK OpenJDK 6 began from OpenJDK b20 and undid some changes with the goal of getting it to a point where it passes JCK6a. We aren't quite there yet, and that's still the goal. - David Herron Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > as someone not following the project too closely, what does that mean? > > Isn't the code already available? > > geir > > On Feb 11, 2008, at 2:53 PM, Joseph D. Darcy wrote: > >> Hello. >> >> FYI, Sun plans to release the first source drop for OpenJDK 6 later >> this week: >> >> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk6-dev/2008-February/000001.html >> >> >> -Joe > From Bradford.Wetmore at Sun.COM Mon Feb 11 22:23:55 2008 From: Bradford.Wetmore at Sun.COM (Brad Wetmore) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:23:55 -0800 Subject: Initial OpenJDK 6 code on the way In-Reply-To: <47B0C9C4.2000902@sun.com> References: <47B0A7D2.5080106@sun.com> <7BEE245B-1F70-4183-A823-E743AC392BA2@pobox.com> <47B0C9C4.2000902@sun.com> Message-ID: <47B0CAFB.6080703@sun.com> (From a thread in discuss at o.j.n, I'm cc'ing security-dev at o.j.n) David Herron wrote: > OpenJDK 6 began from OpenJDK b20 and undid some changes with the goal of > getting it to a point where it passes JCK6a. We aren't quite there yet, > and that's still the goal. And in case anyone is wondering, some of the *POST* b20 changes have been backported into OpenJDK 6, such as the crypto (aka JCE) code. Brad From geir at pobox.com Mon Feb 11 22:32:10 2008 From: geir at pobox.com (Geir Magnusson Jr.) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:32:10 -0500 Subject: Initial OpenJDK 6 code on the way In-Reply-To: <47B0C6F2.7040102@sun.com> References: <47B0A7D2.5080106@sun.com> <7BEE245B-1F70-4183-A823-E743AC392BA2@pobox.com> <47B0C6F2.7040102@sun.com> Message-ID: Ah, thanks geir On Feb 11, 2008, at 5:06 PM, Joseph D. Darcy wrote: > Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: >> as someone not following the project too closely, what does that >> mean? >> Isn't the code already available? > > The code that is currently available is for JDK 7 and so includes > API changes, etc. outside of the Java SE 6 specification. The goal > of he OpenJDK 6 project is to provide an open source implementation > of the Java SE 6 spec. > > -Joe > >> geir >> On Feb 11, 2008, at 2:53 PM, Joseph D. Darcy wrote: >>> Hello. >>> >>> FYI, Sun plans to release the first source drop for OpenJDK 6 >>> later this week: >>> >>> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk6-dev/2008-February/000001.html >>> >>> -Joe > From geir at pobox.com Mon Feb 11 22:32:21 2008 From: geir at pobox.com (Geir Magnusson Jr.) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:32:21 -0500 Subject: Initial OpenJDK 6 code on the way In-Reply-To: <47B0C9C4.2000902@sun.com> References: <47B0A7D2.5080106@sun.com> <7BEE245B-1F70-4183-A823-E743AC392BA2@pobox.com> <47B0C9C4.2000902@sun.com> Message-ID: <07D9DF6B-E778-425A-87AE-B77CAE40277D@pobox.com> Hi David! Just curious... why didn't you start there, modulo the holes due to encumbered code? geir On Feb 11, 2008, at 5:18 PM, David Herron wrote: > Hi Geir, > > OpenJDK 6 != OpenJDK > > OpenJDK 6 began from OpenJDK b20 and undid some changes with the > goal of getting it to a point where it passes JCK6a. We aren't > quite there yet, and that's still the goal. > > - David Herron > > > > Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: >> as someone not following the project too closely, what does that >> mean? >> >> Isn't the code already available? >> >> geir >> >> On Feb 11, 2008, at 2:53 PM, Joseph D. Darcy wrote: >> >>> Hello. >>> >>> FYI, Sun plans to release the first source drop for OpenJDK 6 >>> later this week: >>> >>> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk6-dev/2008-February/000001.html >>> >>> -Joe >> > From Bradford.Wetmore at Sun.COM Tue Feb 12 00:51:19 2008 From: Bradford.Wetmore at Sun.COM (Brad Wetmore) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:51:19 -0800 Subject: What does it mean to be a Gatekeeper in OpenJDK? Message-ID: <47B0ED87.4030206@sun.com> Back in November, I got into a longish discussion with folks on the #openjdk IRC channel about what it means to be a gatekeeper in OpenJDK. They were very curious about how their code would eventually go from a group repository to the MASTER workspace. For those of you interested, I finally got the long-awaited blog post up. Hope this helps explain the process a bit: http://blogs.sun.com/wetmore/entry/you_re_a_gatekeeper_uh Brad P.S. Every gatekeeper has different ways of gatekeeping, this is just how I do it with the JSN gate. The TL gate used to have a more complicated mechanism that tries to keep the TL gate from ever being broken, but I'm not sure how that will translate into the mercurial world. Many things yet to shake out. From Joe.Darcy at Sun.COM Tue Feb 12 04:43:13 2008 From: Joe.Darcy at Sun.COM (Joseph D. Darcy) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:43:13 -0800 Subject: Initial OpenJDK 6 code on the way In-Reply-To: <07D9DF6B-E778-425A-87AE-B77CAE40277D@pobox.com> References: <47B0A7D2.5080106@sun.com> <7BEE245B-1F70-4183-A823-E743AC392BA2@pobox.com> <47B0C9C4.2000902@sun.com> <07D9DF6B-E778-425A-87AE-B77CAE40277D@pobox.com> Message-ID: <47B123E1.5010407@sun.com> Hello. Among the options we considered for producing an open source Java SE 6 were: 1) Redo all license scrubbing etc., on one of our 6 train code bases 2) Undo the "7-isms" from OpenJDK 7 to produce an OpenJDK 6 We estimated the latter to be much less work; that path also means the OpenJDK 6 and 7 workspaces will have a more similar structure, etc. This rationale is discussed at: http://blogs.sun.com/darcy/entry/forward_to_the_past -Joe Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > Hi David! > > Just curious... why didn't you start there, modulo the holes due to > encumbered code? > > geir > > On Feb 11, 2008, at 5:18 PM, David Herron wrote: > >> Hi Geir, >> >> OpenJDK 6 != OpenJDK >> >> OpenJDK 6 began from OpenJDK b20 and undid some changes with the goal >> of getting it to a point where it passes JCK6a. We aren't quite there >> yet, and that's still the goal. >> >> - David Herron >> >> >> >> Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: >>> as someone not following the project too closely, what does that mean? >>> >>> Isn't the code already available? >>> >>> geir >>> >>> On Feb 11, 2008, at 2:53 PM, Joseph D. Darcy wrote: >>> >>>> Hello. >>>> >>>> FYI, Sun plans to release the first source drop for OpenJDK 6 later >>>> this week: >>>> >>>> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk6-dev/2008-February/000001.html >>>> >>>> >>>> -Joe >>> >> > From Phil.Race at Sun.COM Thu Feb 14 01:51:49 2008 From: Phil.Race at Sun.COM (Phil Race) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:51:49 -0800 Subject: imaging and color classes binary plugs no longer needed (soon) Message-ID: <47B39EB5.3000506@sun.com> One of the most glaring holes to date in the openjdk sources are a couple of dozen 2D classes visible at the API level in the packages java.awt.color, java.awt.image, and java.awt.image.renderable. These have been held back from the sources (but included in the binary plugs) until we (Sun) established we could release these under GPL v2 +CP (ie same as most of the rest as OpenJDK) Just today we got the OK to do that, so at the next opportunity these classes will appear in the open jdk sources. Due to the hold-up around the mercurial repositories its pretty much a certainty they'll appear first in the OpenJDK 6 drop, probably as early as sometime next week. -phil. From Xiomara.Jayasena at Sun.COM Thu Feb 14 05:29:58 2008 From: Xiomara.Jayasena at Sun.COM (Xiomara Jayasena) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:29:58 -0800 Subject: Back: Source tarballs In-Reply-To: <477E8799.2050703@sun.com> References: <475C15F7.7060808@nefkom.net> <475D7D5D.6010602@Sun.COM> <475DCC6D.7020404@nefkom.net> <475DD72F.5030701@sun.com> <475DD81E.3040806@sun.com> <477D6553.5000509@sun.com> <477D7489.9000205@sun.com> <17c6771e0801040434v3a571da9ued45d5c01bbf34bb@mail.gmail.com> <477E7EBD.8080804@sun.com> <17c6771e0801041052p32730fa7o2ca1f5e830f6906e@mail.gmail.com> <477E8799.2050703@sun.com> Message-ID: <47B3D1D6.3070204@sun.com> Hi, Due to popular demand, the source tarballs will be re-instituted. Source tarballs will be posted for the next build posted on java.net (build 25). -Xiomara Xiomara Jayasena wrote: > Andrew John Hughes wrote: >> >> >> On 04/01/2008, *Xiomara Jayasena* > > wrote: >> >> Andrew John Hughes wrote: >>> >>> Yes it is definitely being considered -- as it makes sense, >>> especially if it is difficult for people to pull down the 7 >>> tar balls that currently exist now. There are a couple of >>> ways to go about this so that will need to be sorted out. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> -Xiomara >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Maybe I'm missing something here, but surely it just takes >>> someone at Sun to pull the b24 changeset using fclone, remove >>> the hg metadata, tarball it and upload it to the site? >>> This would be a lot simpler than pushing the Mercurial+forest >>> extension requirement on to every downstream consumer. >> >> Thank you for your input! >> >> What you mentioned above is one way to do it. Although I do not >> think Mercurial is needed to download the zips provided by >> Mercurial itself. >> >> e.g.: >> http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk7/jdk7/archive/jdk7-b24.zip >> http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk7/jdk7/jdk/archive/jdk7-b24.zip >> http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk7/jdk7/corba/archive/jdk7-b24.zip >> http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk7/jdk7/jaxp/archive/jdk7-b24.zip >> http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk7/jdk7/jaxws/archive/jdk7-b24.zip >> http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk7/jdk7/hotspot/archive/jdk7-b24.zip >> http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk7/jdk7/langtools/archive/jdk7-b24.zip >> >> >> >> >> -Xiomara :-) >> >> >> -- >>> Andrew :-) >>> >>> Help end the Java Trap! >>> Contribute to GNU Classpath and the OpenJDK >>> http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath >>> http://openjdk.java.net >> >> >> Yes, I'm aware of the zips which is probably a slightly cleaner way >> of doing the tarball than deleting the Mercurial metadata manually. >> I actually find it quite astonishing that a tarball of a release was >> just dropped and we are even having to debate this. 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URL: From robilad at kaffe.org Thu Feb 14 14:39:42 2008 From: robilad at kaffe.org (Dalibor Topic) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:39:42 +0100 Subject: imaging and color classes binary plugs no longer needed (soon) In-Reply-To: <47B39EB5.3000506@sun.com> References: <47B39EB5.3000506@sun.com> Message-ID: <47B452AE.8030304@kaffe.org> Phil Race wrote: > One of the most glaring holes to date in the openjdk sources are a > couple of dozen 2D classes > visible at the API level in the packages java.awt.color, > java.awt.image, and java.awt.image.renderable. > > These have been held back from the sources (but included in the binary > plugs) until we (Sun) > established we could release these under GPL v2 +CP (ie same as most > of the rest as OpenJDK) > > Just today we got the OK to do that, so at the next opportunity these > classes will appear > in the open jdk sources. > > Due to the hold-up around the mercurial repositories its pretty much a > certainty they'll > appear first in the OpenJDK 6 drop, probably as early as sometime next > week. That's very good news. thank you, dalibor topic From roman.kennke at aicas.com Thu Feb 14 19:48:42 2008 From: roman.kennke at aicas.com (Roman Kennke) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:48:42 +0100 Subject: imaging and color classes binary plugs no longer needed (soon) In-Reply-To: <47B39EB5.3000506@sun.com> References: <47B39EB5.3000506@sun.com> Message-ID: <1203018522.5925.27.camel@mercury> Hi Phil, > One of the most glaring holes to date in the openjdk sources are a > couple of dozen 2D classes > visible at the API level in the packages java.awt.color, java.awt.image, > and java.awt.image.renderable. > > These have been held back from the sources (but included in the binary > plugs) until we (Sun) > established we could release these under GPL v2 +CP (ie same as most of > the rest as OpenJDK) > > Just today we got the OK to do that, so at the next opportunity these > classes will appear > in the open jdk sources. This is supercool! Thanks alot! Cheers, Roman PS: Unfortunately, they don't appear to be in the freshly released JDK6 sources. But waiting another few days only makes the release sweeter ;-) -- Dipl.-Inform. (FH) Roman Kennke, Software Engineer, http://kennke.org aicas Allerton Interworks Computer Automated Systems GmbH Haid-und-Neu-Stra?e 18 * D-76131 Karlsruhe * Germany http://www.aicas.com * Tel: +49-721-663 968-0 USt-Id: DE216375633, Handelsregister HRB 109481, AG Karlsruhe Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Dr. James J. Hunt From Joe.Darcy at Sun.COM Thu Feb 14 19:59:34 2008 From: Joe.Darcy at Sun.COM (Joseph D. Darcy) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:59:34 -0800 Subject: imaging and color classes binary plugs no longer needed (soon) In-Reply-To: <1203018522.5925.27.camel@mercury> References: <47B39EB5.3000506@sun.com> <1203018522.5925.27.camel@mercury> Message-ID: <47B49DA6.4010106@sun.com> Roman Kennke wrote: > Hi Phil, > > >> One of the most glaring holes to date in the openjdk sources are a >> couple of dozen 2D classes >> visible at the API level in the packages java.awt.color, java.awt.image, >> and java.awt.image.renderable. >> >> These have been held back from the sources (but included in the binary >> plugs) until we (Sun) >> established we could release these under GPL v2 +CP (ie same as most of >> the rest as OpenJDK) >> >> Just today we got the OK to do that, so at the next opportunity these >> classes will appear >> in the open jdk sources. >> > > This is supercool! Thanks alot! > > Cheers, Roman > > PS: Unfortunately, they don't appear to be in the freshly released JDK6 > sources. But waiting another few days only makes the release sweeter ;-) > Yes, those changes for the OpenJDK 6 sources are in the works: http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk6-dev/2008-February/000004.html -Joe From gp at pagux.com Fri Feb 15 07:12:08 2008 From: gp at pagux.com (gaurav) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:42:08 +0530 Subject: The OpenJDK Developers' Guide - DRAFT version 0.01 In-Reply-To: <200802141847.m1EIljjO016999@ribbit.SFBay.Sun.COM> References: <200802141847.m1EIljjO016999@ribbit.SFBay.Sun.COM> Message-ID: unsubscribe On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:17 AM, Iris Clark wrote: > > Hi. > > I am pleased to announce that DRAFT version 0.01 of "The OpenJDK > Developers' Guide" is now available at http://openjdk.java.net/guide. A > link to the "Table of Contents" may be found in the upper portion of the > left side bar of the main OpenJDK website http://openjdk.java.net. The > "Introduction" describes the current content and our plans to evolve it. > A > mailing list, guide-discuss at openjdk.java.net, has been created for > discussion. > > Your feedback and comments are welcome! > > iris > -- ********************************************************** www.PaGux.com Innovation Starts Here. new blog.pagux.com ....get to know Whats Cooking ? ******************************************************* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mr at sun.com Fri Feb 15 20:44:14 2008 From: mr at sun.com (Mark Reinhold) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:44:14 -0800 Subject: openjdk.java.net, mail.openjdk.java.net downtime Message-ID: <20080215204414.5FE4E2789B6@eggemoggin.niobe.net> The server that hosts openjdk.java.net and mail.openjdk.java.net will be taken down for patching at around 12:55pm PST today. It should be back up about fifteen minutes later, but it might take longer. hg.openjdk.java.net and download.java.net will not be affected. - Mark From aph at redhat.com Tue Feb 19 11:29:15 2008 From: aph at redhat.com (Andrew Haley) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:29:15 +0000 Subject: Initial source code for OpenJDK 6 now available In-Reply-To: <47B4902A.6040105@sun.com> References: <47B4902A.6040105@sun.com> Message-ID: <47BABD8B.1090000@redhat.com> Joseph D. Darcy wrote: > The initial source code for OpenJDK 6 is now available at > http://download.java.net/openjdk/jdk6 > > More project and mailing list information available from > http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk6 Which OpenJDK release is this based on? b19, or something earlier? Thanks, Andrew. From aph at redhat.com Tue Feb 19 11:32:38 2008 From: aph at redhat.com (Andrew Haley) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:32:38 +0000 Subject: Initial source code for OpenJDK 6 now available In-Reply-To: <47BABD8B.1090000@redhat.com> References: <47B4902A.6040105@sun.com> <47BABD8B.1090000@redhat.com> Message-ID: <47BABE56.7000201@redhat.com> Andrew Haley wrote: > Joseph D. Darcy wrote: >> The initial source code for OpenJDK 6 is now available at >> http://download.java.net/openjdk/jdk6 >> >> More project and mailing list information available from >> http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk6 > > Which OpenJDK release is this based on? b19, or something > earlier? Forget that, I found the answer in an earlier email from you. Thanks, Andrew. From David.Herron at Sun.COM Tue Feb 19 16:03:07 2008 From: David.Herron at Sun.COM (David Herron) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:03:07 -0800 Subject: Initial source code for OpenJDK 6 now available In-Reply-To: <47BABE56.7000201@redhat.com> References: <47B4902A.6040105@sun.com> <47BABD8B.1090000@redhat.com> <47BABE56.7000201@redhat.com> Message-ID: <47BAFDBB.4050704@sun.com> Andrew Haley wrote: > Andrew Haley wrote: >> Joseph D. Darcy wrote: >>> The initial source code for OpenJDK 6 is now available at >>> http://download.java.net/openjdk/jdk6 >>> >>> More project and mailing list information available from >>> http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk6 >> >> Which OpenJDK release is this based on? b19, or something >> earlier? > > Forget that, I found the answer in an earlier email from you. > > Thanks, > Andrew. For the readers following along at home.. the answer is "b20" with some changes required to fix a few bugs and revert to (partial) JCK6a conformance. It also has a different hotspot version than openjdk7, being the hotspot from 6u4. - David Herron From Bradford.Wetmore at Sun.COM Tue Feb 19 16:35:31 2008 From: Bradford.Wetmore at Sun.COM (Brad Wetmore) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:35:31 -0800 Subject: Initial source code for OpenJDK 6 now available In-Reply-To: <47BAFDBB.4050704@sun.com> References: <47B4902A.6040105@sun.com> <47BABD8B.1090000@redhat.com> <47BABE56.7000201@redhat.com> <47BAFDBB.4050704@sun.com> Message-ID: <47BB0553.1010701@sun.com> > For the readers following along at home.. the answer is "b20" with some > changes required to fix a few bugs and revert to (partial) JCK6a > conformance. It also has a different hotspot version than openjdk7, > being the hotspot from 6u4. Plus a few selected changes post b20. I know several security/networking changes were added, plus the inclusion of the crypto (JCE) code. Brad David Herron wrote: > > > Andrew Haley wrote: >> Andrew Haley wrote: >>> Joseph D. Darcy wrote: >>>> The initial source code for OpenJDK 6 is now available at >>>> http://download.java.net/openjdk/jdk6 >>>> >>>> More project and mailing list information available from >>>> http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk6 >>> >>> Which OpenJDK release is this based on? b19, or something >>> earlier? >> >> Forget that, I found the answer in an earlier email from you. >> >> Thanks, >> Andrew. > > For the readers following along at home.. the answer is "b20" with some > changes required to fix a few bugs and revert to (partial) JCK6a > conformance. It also has a different hotspot version than openjdk7, > being the hotspot from 6u4. > > - David Herron From mr at sun.com Tue Feb 19 22:31:07 2008 From: mr at sun.com (Mark Reinhold) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:31:07 -0800 Subject: Mercurial update (2) Message-ID: <20080219223107.9D0542789B6@eggemoggin.niobe.net> The infrastructure bits are coming together nicely and should be ready to go live with support for pushes into the Mercurial repositories by the middle of next week, right after FOSDEM. (The code will most likely be ready before FOSDEM, but I know better than to deploy a brand-new distributed system for the first time and then jump on a plane.) In the meantime I've asked the Moderators of the initial Groups to take a census of their Members so that the core database can be seeded [1]. The census will be complete by mid-March. I expect most results to come in much earlier, however, since people are anxious to start pushing their backlogged changes into the repositories. When the census is complete we'll be able to say exactly who the Members of each Group are, and after that point all new Members, regardless of their employer, will have to be voted in [2]. - Mark [1] http://blogs.sun.com/mr/entry/cosmology [2] http://openjdk.java.net/groups From robilad at kaffe.org Wed Feb 20 02:08:26 2008 From: robilad at kaffe.org (Dalibor Topic) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:08:26 +0100 Subject: Mercurial update (2) In-Reply-To: <20080219223107.9D0542789B6@eggemoggin.niobe.net> References: <20080219223107.9D0542789B6@eggemoggin.niobe.net> Message-ID: <47BB8B9A.3000606@kaffe.org> Mark Reinhold wrote: > The infrastructure bits are coming together nicely and should be ready > to go live with support for pushes into the Mercurial repositories by > the middle of next week, right after FOSDEM. Thank you very much for all the hard work going into making this happen, Mark. I'm looking forward to hear the war stories at FOSDEM. cheers, dalibor topic From mark at klomp.org Wed Feb 20 10:14:02 2008 From: mark at klomp.org (Mark Wielaard) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:14:02 +0100 Subject: The OpenJDK Developers' Guide - DRAFT version 0.01 In-Reply-To: <200802141847.m1EIljjO016999@ribbit.SFBay.Sun.COM> References: <200802141847.m1EIljjO016999@ribbit.SFBay.Sun.COM> Message-ID: <1203502442.3396.11.camel@dijkstra.wildebeest.org> Hi Iris, I was happy to see the discussion on the guide. But I think a lot of people (like me) missed it because it is on a separate mailinglist. This is one of the things that makes openjdk really hard to follow for people. There are now 45 (!) mailinglists. IMHO the guide should just have been discussed on the general developer discuss list. OpenJDK in general is really hard to follow because of this proliferation of lists. Cheers, Mark From david.gilbert at object-refinery.com Wed Feb 20 11:26:51 2008 From: david.gilbert at object-refinery.com (Dave Gilbert) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:26:51 +0000 Subject: The OpenJDK Developers' Guide - DRAFT version 0.01 In-Reply-To: <1203502442.3396.11.camel@dijkstra.wildebeest.org> References: <200802141847.m1EIljjO016999@ribbit.SFBay.Sun.COM> <1203502442.3396.11.camel@dijkstra.wildebeest.org> Message-ID: <47BC0E7B.5050800@object-refinery.com> Mark Wielaard wrote: >Hi Iris, > >I was happy to see the discussion on the guide. But I think a lot of >people (like me) missed it because it is on a separate mailinglist. This >is one of the things that makes openjdk really hard to follow for >people. There are now 45 (!) mailinglists. IMHO the guide should just >have been discussed on the general developer discuss list. OpenJDK in >general is really hard to follow because of this proliferation of lists. > >Cheers, > >Mark > > Wow, 45 mailing lists! I also think that is too many, and I also missed the discussion of the guide which I am interested in. Which mailing list is that discussion on? Regards, Dave Gilbert http://www.jfree.org/ From mark at klomp.org Wed Feb 20 11:36:05 2008 From: mark at klomp.org (Mark Wielaard) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:36:05 +0100 Subject: The OpenJDK Developers' Guide - DRAFT version 0.01 In-Reply-To: <47BC0E7B.5050800@object-refinery.com> References: <200802141847.m1EIljjO016999@ribbit.SFBay.Sun.COM> <1203502442.3396.11.camel@dijkstra.wildebeest.org> <47BC0E7B.5050800@object-refinery.com> Message-ID: <1203507365.3396.16.camel@dijkstra.wildebeest.org> Hi Dave, On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 11:26 +0000, Dave Gilbert wrote: > Wow, 45 mailing lists! I also think that is too many, and I also missed > the discussion of the guide which I am interested in. Which mailing > list is that discussion on? On guide-discuss at openjdk.java.net. Which was actually in Iris email when she announced the guide. So some blame does fall on the readers. But that list isn't on gmane or nabble for example. And I only noticed it because it was mentioned in Kelly's blog that I happen to see today. There is some nice discussion on the guide, and I am happy with that. I am really not complaining about the guide itself, or the discussion about it, please do continue with that work! But please do consider not creating yet another list for each and every thing to dicuss, it really fragments the community. Cheers, Mark From david.gilbert at object-refinery.com Wed Feb 20 11:49:24 2008 From: david.gilbert at object-refinery.com (Dave Gilbert) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:49:24 +0000 Subject: The OpenJDK Developers' Guide - DRAFT version 0.01 In-Reply-To: <1203507365.3396.16.camel@dijkstra.wildebeest.org> References: <200802141847.m1EIljjO016999@ribbit.SFBay.Sun.COM> <1203502442.3396.11.camel@dijkstra.wildebeest.org> <47BC0E7B.5050800@object-refinery.com> <1203507365.3396.16.camel@dijkstra.wildebeest.org> Message-ID: <47BC13C4.6060005@object-refinery.com> Mark Wielaard wrote: >So some blame does fall on the readers. > Yes, you are right. I see it on a second reading of the original post. >But please do consider not >creating yet another list for each and every thing to dicuss, it really >fragments the community. > > I agree. Regards, Dave From mr at sun.com Fri Feb 29 21:14:18 2008 From: mr at sun.com (Mark Reinhold) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 13:14:18 -0800 Subject: OpenJDK initial Member registration begins Message-ID: <20080229211418.8F6862789B5@eggemoggin.niobe.net> In order to initialize the core Community database, which among other things governs who can create and push changesets into our Mercurial repositories, the Moderators of the initial Groups are in the process of conducting a census of their Members [1,2]. For these initial Groups, which are comprised for the most part of Sun employees, the Members of each Group are those engineers who regularly work in that Group's area. (Sun managers are not considered Members unless they regularly make non-managerial contributions.) So far I've received and validated census data for the Build, Compiler, HotSpot, JMX, and Security Groups. If you're a Member of one or more of these Groups then you'll shortly receive an automated email message from registrar at openjdk.java.net containing the URL for your invitation page. Please complete and submit the form on that page in order to finish the registration process. Members of the remaining Groups will be sent invitations as the census data is received. The census ends at noon PDT on 11 March, after which time Sun employees who are candidates for Group Membership will have to be voted in just like everyone else. Invitations issued as a result of the census will expire at midnight PDT on 25 March. Note: Registration data is sent via HTTPS, but unfortunately the server certificate for db.openjdk.java.net has not yet been signed by Sun's PKI authority. The server is hence using a self-signed certificate for now, and your browser will most likely nag you about it. In case you want to validate the certificate, here are its signatures: MD5: 52:3D:C5:B3:22:99:95:89:72:05:E9:84:7C:75:22:6D SHA1: 1D:DA:49:F7:43:18:EF:B1:14:36:2C:69:F1:9F:A3:CC:08:F0:23:94 (If you're really paranoid then I can arrange to send you the actual certificate over a secure channel.) As to what this actually means for Mercurial, stay tuned ... - Mark [1] http://openjdk.java.net/groups/ [2] http://blogs.sun.com/mr/entry/cosmology From geir at pobox.com Fri Feb 29 23:39:50 2008 From: geir at pobox.com (Geir Magnusson Jr.) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:39:50 -0500 Subject: OpenJDK initial Member registration begins In-Reply-To: <20080229211418.8F6862789B5@eggemoggin.niobe.net> References: <20080229211418.8F6862789B5@eggemoggin.niobe.net> Message-ID: How many of these Members don't work for Sun? geir On Feb 29, 2008, at 4:14 PM, Mark Reinhold wrote: > In order to initialize the core Community database, which among other > things governs who can create and push changesets into our Mercurial > repositories, the Moderators of the initial Groups are in the process > of conducting a census of their Members [1,2]. > > For these initial Groups, which are comprised for the most part of Sun > employees, the Members of each Group are those engineers who regularly > work in that Group's area. (Sun managers are not considered Members > unless they regularly make non-managerial contributions.) > > So far I've received and validated census data for the Build, > Compiler, > HotSpot, JMX, and Security Groups. If you're a Member of one or > more of > these Groups then you'll shortly receive an automated email message > from > registrar at openjdk.java.net containing the URL for your invitation > page. > Please complete and submit the form on that page in order to finish > the > registration process. > > Members of the remaining Groups will be sent invitations as the census > data is received. The census ends at noon PDT on 11 March, after > which > time Sun employees who are candidates for Group Membership will have > to > be voted in just like everyone else. Invitations issued as a result > of > the census will expire at midnight PDT on 25 March. > > Note: Registration data is sent via HTTPS, but unfortunately the > server > certificate for db.openjdk.java.net has not yet been signed by Sun's > PKI > authority. The server is hence using a self-signed certificate for > now, > and your browser will most likely nag you about it. In case you > want to > validate the certificate, here are its signatures: > > MD5: 52:3D:C5:B3:22:99:95:89:72:05:E9:84:7C:75:22:6D > SHA1: 1D:DA:49:F7:43:18:EF:B1:14:36:2C:69:F1:9F:A3:CC:08:F0:23:94 > > (If you're really paranoid then I can arrange to send you the actual > certificate over a secure channel.) > > As to what this actually means for Mercurial, stay tuned ... > > - Mark > > > [1] http://openjdk.java.net/groups/ > [2] http://blogs.sun.com/mr/entry/cosmology