From volker.simonis at gmail.com  Mon Feb  1 10:43:16 2010
From: volker.simonis at gmail.com (Volker Simonis)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 11:43:16 +0100
Subject: "Converge [the] best features of HotSpot and JRockit" - what does 
	this mean for OpenJDK?
Message-ID: <d65861881002010243l2f43a213h99986ed073dc0c06@mail.gmail.com>

In its "Oracle + Sun: Transforming the IT Industry" strategy outlook
Executive Vice President Thomas Kurian of Oracle mentioned that Oracle
plans to "Converge [the] best features of HotSpot and JRockit" (slide
10 of http://www.oracle.com/ocom/groups/public/@ocom/documents/webcontent/044523.pdf).

Has anybody thought about what implications this could have for OpenJDK?

My fears are that if HotSpot and JRockit will "converge" this means
that OpenJDK will be abandoned, because JRockit isn't OpenSource and I
haven't heared of any plans to open source it any time soon.
Consequently, if JRockit is and will stay closed source, a convergence
of HotSpot and JRockit can only happen in a "closed" version.

Are there any sentiments regarding this topic?

Regards,
Volker


From david at davidherron.com  Mon Feb  1 16:41:17 2010
From: david at davidherron.com (David Herron)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 08:41:17 -0800
Subject: "Converge [the] best features of HotSpot and JRockit" - what does
	this mean for OpenJDK?
In-Reply-To: <d65861881002010243l2f43a213h99986ed073dc0c06@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d65861881002010243l2f43a213h99986ed073dc0c06@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44ca3ad71002010841g5abe5893h3b3ce7d5f9795a05@mail.gmail.com>

In Theory ...

Theoretically JRockit could be changed to implement the same interfaces
HotSpot implements so that JRocket could plug into the OpenJDK runtime.
 That would allow any VM to plug into the OpenJDK runtime.  This was the
goal of the Clean VM Interface project (
http://openjdk.java.net/projects/cvmi/)

Right?

- David Herron,
http://davidherron.com

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 2:43 AM, Volker Simonis <volker.simonis at gmail.com>wrote:

> In its "Oracle + Sun: Transforming the IT Industry" strategy outlook
> Executive Vice President Thomas Kurian of Oracle mentioned that Oracle
> plans to "Converge [the] best features of HotSpot and JRockit" (slide
> 10 of
> http://www.oracle.com/ocom/groups/public/@ocom/documents/webcontent/044523.pdf
> ).
>
> Has anybody thought about what implications this could have for OpenJDK?
>
> My fears are that if HotSpot and JRockit will "converge" this means
> that OpenJDK will be abandoned, because JRockit isn't OpenSource and I
> haven't heared of any plans to open source it any time soon.
> Consequently, if JRockit is and will stay closed source, a convergence
> of HotSpot and JRockit can only happen in a "closed" version.
>
> Are there any sentiments regarding this topic?
>
> Regards,
> Volker
>


From volker.simonis at gmail.com  Mon Feb  1 18:05:05 2010
From: volker.simonis at gmail.com (Volker Simonis)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 19:05:05 +0100
Subject: "Converge [the] best features of HotSpot and JRockit" - what does
	this mean for OpenJDK?
In-Reply-To: <44ca3ad71002010841g5abe5893h3b3ce7d5f9795a05@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d65861881002010243l2f43a213h99986ed073dc0c06@mail.gmail.com>
	<44ca3ad71002010841g5abe5893h3b3ce7d5f9795a05@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d65861881002011005t7765757aoab6b453ea29e82a3@mail.gmail.com>

Hi David,

yes, you're right. In theory the HotSpot VM could be replaced by
another VM to use the same OpenJDK Java class library (i.e. the part
under the 'jdk/' subdirectory).

But in my post I was explicitly referring to the HotSpot VM itself and
the fact that it could hardly be merged with the JRockit VM. The
scenario you are talking about would exactly confirm my  fears: the
HotSpot VM would be discontinued and the OpenJDK would degenerate to a
class library (like Classpath once before). Not the best perspective
for a free Java implementation...

Regards,
Volker

On 2/1/10, David Herron <david at davidherron.com> wrote:
> In Theory ...
>
> Theoretically JRockit could be changed to implement the same interfaces
> HotSpot implements so that JRocket could plug into the OpenJDK runtime.
> That would allow any VM to plug into the OpenJDK runtime.  This was the goal
> of the Clean VM Interface project
> (http://openjdk.java.net/projects/cvmi/)
>
> Right?
>
> - David Herron,
> http://davidherron.com
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 2:43 AM, Volker Simonis <volker.simonis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > In its "Oracle + Sun: Transforming the IT Industry" strategy outlook
> > Executive Vice President Thomas Kurian of Oracle mentioned that Oracle
> > plans to "Converge [the] best features of HotSpot and JRockit" (slide
> > 10 of
> http://www.oracle.com/ocom/groups/public/@ocom/documents/webcontent/044523.pdf).
> >
> > Has anybody thought about what implications this could have for OpenJDK?
> >
> > My fears are that if HotSpot and JRockit will "converge" this means
> > that OpenJDK will be abandoned, because JRockit isn't OpenSource and I
> > haven't heared of any plans to open source it any time soon.
> > Consequently, if JRockit is and will stay closed source, a convergence
> > of HotSpot and JRockit can only happen in a "closed" version.
> >
> > Are there any sentiments regarding this topic?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Volker
> >
>
>


From david at davidherron.com  Mon Feb  1 18:27:27 2010
From: david at davidherron.com (David Herron)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 10:27:27 -0800
Subject: "Converge [the] best features of HotSpot and JRockit" - what does
	this mean for OpenJDK?
In-Reply-To: <d65861881002011005t7765757aoab6b453ea29e82a3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d65861881002010243l2f43a213h99986ed073dc0c06@mail.gmail.com>
	<44ca3ad71002010841g5abe5893h3b3ce7d5f9795a05@mail.gmail.com>
	<d65861881002011005t7765757aoab6b453ea29e82a3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44ca3ad71002011027o34585617u787d12def252fe9c@mail.gmail.com>

Or.. it could create a market of high performance VM's all using the same
standard compliant runtime

A blog post I read last week pointed to a JCP Executive Committee proposal
from Oracle to convert the JCP into an industry consortium.  Plausibly the
OpenJDK project could transition into an industry consortium providing a
runtime that every Java implementor uses.   Or...?

- David Herron


On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Volker Simonis <volker.simonis at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> yes, you're right. In theory the HotSpot VM could be replaced by
> another VM to use the same OpenJDK Java class library (i.e. the part
> under the 'jdk/' subdirectory).
>
> But in my post I was explicitly referring to the HotSpot VM itself and
> the fact that it could hardly be merged with the JRockit VM. The
> scenario you are talking about would exactly confirm my  fears: the
> HotSpot VM would be discontinued and the OpenJDK would degenerate to a
> class library (like Classpath once before). Not the best perspective
> for a free Java implementation...
>
> Regards,
> Volker
>
> On 2/1/10, David Herron <david at davidherron.com> wrote:
> > In Theory ...
> >
> > Theoretically JRockit could be changed to implement the same interfaces
> > HotSpot implements so that JRocket could plug into the OpenJDK runtime.
> > That would allow any VM to plug into the OpenJDK runtime.  This was the
> goal
> > of the Clean VM Interface project
> > (http://openjdk.java.net/projects/cvmi/)
> >
> > Right?
> >
> > - David Herron,
> > http://davidherron.com
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 2:43 AM, Volker Simonis <volker.simonis at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > In its "Oracle + Sun: Transforming the IT Industry" strategy outlook
> > > Executive Vice President Thomas Kurian of Oracle mentioned that Oracle
> > > plans to "Converge [the] best features of HotSpot and JRockit" (slide
> > > 10 of
> >
> http://www.oracle.com/ocom/groups/public/@ocom/documents/webcontent/044523.pdf
> ).
> > >
> > > Has anybody thought about what implications this could have for
> OpenJDK?
> > >
> > > My fears are that if HotSpot and JRockit will "converge" this means
> > > that OpenJDK will be abandoned, because JRockit isn't OpenSource and I
> > > haven't heared of any plans to open source it any time soon.
> > > Consequently, if JRockit is and will stay closed source, a convergence
> > > of HotSpot and JRockit can only happen in a "closed" version.
> > >
> > > Are there any sentiments regarding this topic?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Volker
> > >
> >
> >
>


From neugens at limasoftware.net  Mon Feb  1 18:27:56 2010
From: neugens at limasoftware.net (Mario Torre)
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:27:56 +0100
Subject: "Converge [the] best features of HotSpot and JRockit" - what
	does this mean for OpenJDK?
In-Reply-To: <d65861881002011005t7765757aoab6b453ea29e82a3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d65861881002010243l2f43a213h99986ed073dc0c06@mail.gmail.com>
	<44ca3ad71002010841g5abe5893h3b3ce7d5f9795a05@mail.gmail.com>
	<d65861881002011005t7765757aoab6b453ea29e82a3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1265048876.5647.3.camel@localhost>

Il giorno lun, 01/02/2010 alle 19.05 +0100, Volker Simonis ha scritto:
> Hi David,
> 
> yes, you're right. In theory the HotSpot VM could be replaced by
> another VM to use the same OpenJDK Java class library (i.e. the part
> under the 'jdk/' subdirectory).
> 
> But in my post I was explicitly referring to the HotSpot VM itself and
> the fact that it could hardly be merged with the JRockit VM. The
> scenario you are talking about would exactly confirm my  fears: the
> HotSpot VM would be discontinued and the OpenJDK would degenerate to a
> class library (like Classpath once before). Not the best perspective
> for a free Java implementation...
> 
> Regards,
> Volker

I share this fears. Good that we have FOSDEM shortly to discuss this
things.

Cheers,
Mario



From davidh at 7gen.com  Mon Feb  1 18:30:22 2010
From: davidh at 7gen.com (David Herron)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 10:30:22 -0800
Subject: "Converge [the] best features of HotSpot and JRockit" - what does
	this mean for OpenJDK?
In-Reply-To: <1265048876.5647.3.camel@localhost>
References: <d65861881002010243l2f43a213h99986ed073dc0c06@mail.gmail.com>
	<44ca3ad71002010841g5abe5893h3b3ce7d5f9795a05@mail.gmail.com>
	<d65861881002011005t7765757aoab6b453ea29e82a3@mail.gmail.com>
	<1265048876.5647.3.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <8bc8b8181002011030k40d147d6yf8c1d7cc9597fd6e@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Mario Torre <neugens at limasoftware.net>wrote:

> Il giorno lun, 01/02/2010 alle 19.05 +0100, Volker Simonis ha scritto:
> > Hi David,
> >
> > yes, you're right. In theory the HotSpot VM could be replaced by
> > another VM to use the same OpenJDK Java class library (i.e. the part
> > under the 'jdk/' subdirectory).
> >
> > But in my post I was explicitly referring to the HotSpot VM itself and
> > the fact that it could hardly be merged with the JRockit VM. The
> > scenario you are talking about would exactly confirm my  fears: the
> > HotSpot VM would be discontinued and the OpenJDK would degenerate to a
> > class library (like Classpath once before). Not the best perspective
> > for a free Java implementation...
> >
> > Regards,
> > Volker
>
> I share this fears. Good that we have FOSDEM shortly to discuss this
> things.
>
> Cheers,
> Mario
>
>

And I should make it clear that I'm just theorizing and have no idea for
real of anything.

- David


From Dalibor.Topic at Sun.COM  Tue Feb  2 13:39:26 2010
From: Dalibor.Topic at Sun.COM (Dalibor Topic)
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 14:39:26 +0100
Subject: fosdem devroom schedule published
In-Reply-To: <4B55F37A.2030906@sun.com>
References: <4B55F37A.2030906@sun.com>
Message-ID: <4B682B0E.4050801@sun.com>

Dalibor Topic wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > the schedule for the free Java devroom at FOSDEM is now online. See 
> > http://robilad.livejournal.com/59529.html and 
> > http://fosdem.org/2010/schedule/tracks/freejava for details.


There has been a small change on Saturday - we'll be in Room
AY: http://fosdem.org/2010/schedule/rooms/ay

We're still in room AW1.125 on Sunday:
http://fosdem.org/2010/schedule/rooms/aw1.125

cheers,
dalibor topic
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From Michael.Wilkerson at Sun.COM  Sat Feb  6 21:04:14 2010
From: Michael.Wilkerson at Sun.COM (Michael Wilkerson)
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:04:14 -0800
Subject: JDK 7 build 82 is available at the openjdk.java.net website
Message-ID: <4B6DD94E.9050705@sun.com>

The OpenJDK source is available at:
http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk7/jdk7
http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk7/jdk7/rev/6880a3af9add
The OpenJDK source binary plugs for the promoted JDK 7 build 82 are
available under the openjdk http://openjdk.java.net website under Source
Code (direct link to bundles: http://download.java.net/openjdk/jdk7)

Summary of changes:
http://download.java.net/jdk7/changes/jdk7-b82.html


--Michael Wilkerson


From arshad3m at gmail.com  Sat Feb 13 08:00:31 2010
From: arshad3m at gmail.com (arshad)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:30:31 +0530
Subject: How to make a java app install-able...?
Message-ID: <1266048031.9179.6.camel@arshad-desktop>

hi all,
this is my first message to the list, and i hope i can benifit from this
list.

i want to know how to make a java application, which i built using
netbeans to be install-able in linux and windows machine.


thank you very much



From lussman1 at gmail.com  Sat Feb 13 20:55:43 2010
From: lussman1 at gmail.com (Denis Lussier)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:55:43 -0500
Subject: How to make a java app install-able...?
In-Reply-To: <1266048031.9179.6.camel@arshad-desktop>
References: <1266048031.9179.6.camel@arshad-desktop>
Message-ID: <8fab85311002131255r5c60cc9bj7bcc85a9b75f9836@mail.gmail.com>

As long as your application is GPL open source, you
can ship an appropriate OpenJDK 6 Windows or Linux
binary along with your app.  You can compile the OpenJDK
binaries yourself or you can get them at http://openscg.org.

On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 3:00 AM, arshad <arshad3m at gmail.com> wrote:
> hi all,
> this is my first message to the list, and i hope i can benifit from this
> list.
>
> i want to know how to make a java application, which i built using
> netbeans to be install-able in linux and windows machine.
>
>
> thank you very much
>
>


From tmarble at info9.net  Sun Feb 14 03:29:24 2010
From: tmarble at info9.net (Tom Marble)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 21:29:24 -0600
Subject: How to make a java app install-able...?
In-Reply-To: <8fab85311002131255r5c60cc9bj7bcc85a9b75f9836@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1266048031.9179.6.camel@arshad-desktop>
	<8fab85311002131255r5c60cc9bj7bcc85a9b75f9836@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B776E14.3020606@info9.net>

Denis Lussier wrote:
> As long as your application is GPL open source, you
> can ship an appropriate OpenJDK 6 Windows or Linux
> binary along with your app.  You can compile the OpenJDK
> binaries yourself or you can get them at http://openscg.org.

There are at least two confusions going on here.
First, some assumption that the license choice of the Java
application is in some way dependent upon the license choice of
OpenJDK (see the FAQ [0]).

Second that redistribution of OpenJDK is somehow dependent
on the license choice of the application.  Redistribution
is one of the core freedoms (#2) of Free software [1].

Even the most ardent Apachians in our community (Hi Geir!)
wouldn't disagree with such a basic licensing interpretation.

> On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 3:00 AM, arshad <arshad3m at gmail.com> wrote:
>> hi all,
>> this is my first message to the list, and i hope i can benifit from this
>> list.
>>
>> i want to know how to make a java application, which i built using
>> netbeans to be install-able in linux and windows machine.

To this, the original question, we can suggest that most natural
format for redistribution on GNU/Linux systems is the native
packaging format [2] [3] [4].

Indeed the OpenJDK part of this job is already done for you
in popular distributions.

The lack of packaging system on Windows means your
options are less straightforward. You may choose a
web distribution model [5] or a native installer approach [6]
(note: this reference is in no way an endorsement of this product).

Regards,

--Tom


[0] http://www.sun.com/software/opensource/java/faq.jsp#g6
[1] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
[2] http://packages.debian.org/
[3] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb
[4] http://packages.gentoo.org/
[5] http://java.sun.com/javase/technologies/desktop/javawebstart/index.jsp
[6] http://www.advancedinstaller.com/java.html


From arshad3m at gmail.com  Sun Feb 14 06:04:54 2010
From: arshad3m at gmail.com (arshad)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 11:34:54 +0530
Subject: How to make a java app install-able...?
In-Reply-To: <4B776E14.3020606@info9.net>
References: <1266048031.9179.6.camel@arshad-desktop>
	<8fab85311002131255r5c60cc9bj7bcc85a9b75f9836@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B776E14.3020606@info9.net>
Message-ID: <1266127494.3510.4.camel@arshad-desktop>

On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 21:29 -0600, Tom Marble wrote:
> Denis Lussier wrote:
> > As long as your application is GPL open source, you
> > can ship an appropriate OpenJDK 6 Windows or Linux
> > binary along with your app.  You can compile the OpenJDK
> > binaries yourself or you can get them at http://openscg.org.
> 
> There are at least two confusions going on here.
> First, some assumption that the license choice of the Java
> application is in some way dependent upon the license choice of
> OpenJDK (see the FAQ [0]).
> 
> Second that redistribution of OpenJDK is somehow dependent
> on the license choice of the application.  Redistribution
> is one of the core freedoms (#2) of Free software [1].
> 
> Even the most ardent Apachians in our community (Hi Geir!)
> wouldn't disagree with such a basic licensing interpretation.
> 
> > On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 3:00 AM, arshad <arshad3m at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> hi all,
> >> this is my first message to the list, and i hope i can benifit from this
> >> list.
> >>
> >> i want to know how to make a java application, which i built using
> >> netbeans to be install-able in linux and windows machine.
> 
> To this, the original question, we can suggest that most natural
> format for redistribution on GNU/Linux systems is the native
> packaging format [2] [3] [4].
> 
> Indeed the OpenJDK part of this job is already done for you
> in popular distributions.
> 
> The lack of packaging system on Windows means your
> options are less straightforward. You may choose a
> web distribution model [5] or a native installer approach [6]
> (note: this reference is in no way an endorsement of this product).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> --Tom
> 
> 
> [0] http://www.sun.com/software/opensource/java/faq.jsp#g6
> [1] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
> [2] http://packages.debian.org/
> [3] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb
> [4] http://packages.gentoo.org/
> [5] http://java.sun.com/javase/technologies/desktop/javawebstart/index.jsp
> [6] http://www.advancedinstaller.com/java.html

Hi,
thank you very much for your reply.
but forgive me i don't think whether you have understood my question.
i mean, i have the source and class file in one folder.
and i want to make the following out of it:
1) a .deb for linux
2) a .exe for win
3) a .jar (which i think should work in both)

thanks a lot.



From Michael.Wilkerson at Sun.COM  Sun Feb 14 07:07:33 2010
From: Michael.Wilkerson at Sun.COM (Michael Wilkerson)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 23:07:33 -0800
Subject: JDK 7 build 83 is available at the openjdk.java.net website
Message-ID: <4B77A135.6000302@sun.com>

The OpenJDK source is available at:
http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk7/jdk7
http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk7/jdk7/rev/2f3ea057d1ad

The OpenJDK source binary plugs for the promoted JDK 7 build 83 are
available under the openjdk http://openjdk.java.net website under Source
Code (direct link to bundles: http://download.java.net/openjdk/jdk7)

Summary of changes:
http://download.java.net/jdk7/changes/jdk7-b83.html


--Michael Wilkerson


From Dalibor.Topic at Sun.COM  Sun Feb 14 10:07:39 2010
From: Dalibor.Topic at Sun.COM (Dalibor Topic)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 11:07:39 +0100
Subject: How to make a java app install-able...?
In-Reply-To: <1266048031.9179.6.camel@arshad-desktop>
References: <1266048031.9179.6.camel@arshad-desktop>
Message-ID: <4B77CB6B.3060902@sun.com>

arshad wrote:
> hi all,
> this is my first message to the list, and i hope i can benifit from this
> list.
> 
> i want to know how to make a java application, which i built using
> netbeans to be install-able in linux and windows machine.

You need to package it on Linux using the packaging tools of the
distribution you're targeting, and to create an installer on Windows.
Alternatively, you can use a cross-platform installer tool. Neither
option is too hard, but you'll have to spend some time learning
about native installation mechanisms of the platforms you target.

In other words, depending on the build system you use, your 
willingness to spend time or money, your familiarity with native 
installation tools, etc. there are many solutions, from proprietary 
software, to open source tools, with different features and 
trade-offs. You'll have to do some research to figure out which one 
fits your needs.

cheers,
dalibor topic
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From lussman1 at gmail.com  Sun Feb 14 12:29:34 2010
From: lussman1 at gmail.com (Denis Lussier)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 07:29:34 -0500
Subject: How to make a java app install-able...?
In-Reply-To: <4B77CB6B.3060902@sun.com>
References: <1266048031.9179.6.camel@arshad-desktop> <4B77CB6B.3060902@sun.com>
Message-ID: <8fab85311002140429q83fcd76wb69038967796a7c9@mail.gmail.com>

If u choose the cross platform installer route, in my experience
Bitrock does a real nice job generating a thin gui installer with
binaries that are platform specific.  It isn't open source, but I
believe it's free for usage by open source projects in many configs.
Ur mileage may vary.

On 2/14/10, Dalibor Topic <Dalibor.Topic at sun.com> wrote:
> arshad wrote:
>> hi all,
>> this is my first message to the list, and i hope i can benifit from this
>> list.
>>
>> i want to know how to make a java application, which i built using
>> netbeans to be install-able in linux and windows machine.
>
> You need to package it on Linux using the packaging tools of the
> distribution you're targeting, and to create an installer on Windows.
> Alternatively, you can use a cross-platform installer tool. Neither
> option is too hard, but you'll have to spend some time learning
> about native installation mechanisms of the platforms you target.
>
> In other words, depending on the build system you use, your
> willingness to spend time or money, your familiarity with native
> installation tools, etc. there are many solutions, from proprietary
> software, to open source tools, with different features and
> trade-offs. You'll have to do some research to figure out which one
> fits your needs.
>
> cheers,
> dalibor topic
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From mihamina at gulfsat.mg  Mon Feb 15 06:28:36 2010
From: mihamina at gulfsat.mg (Mihamina Rakotomandimby)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 09:28:36 +0300
Subject: How to make a java app install-able...?
In-Reply-To: <1266127494.3510.4.camel@arshad-desktop>
References: <1266048031.9179.6.camel@arshad-desktop>
	<8fab85311002131255r5c60cc9bj7bcc85a9b75f9836@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B776E14.3020606@info9.net>
	<1266127494.3510.4.camel@arshad-desktop>
Message-ID: <20100215092836.0b4c435e@pbmiha.malagasy.com>

> arshad <arshad3m at gmail.com> :
> thank you very much for your reply.
> but forgive me i don't think whether you have understood my question.

He absolutely understood your question.

> i mean, i have the source and class file in one folder.
> and i want to make the following out of it:
> 1) a .deb for linux

You dont understand: .deb is only for dpkg package utility. (Ubuntu and
Debian run it).

To reach at least 70% of the runnong ditributions, you shoudl also
consider packagin .rpm (among that)

Be carefull of dependencies.

To ease the work, use autotools:
I found a random exmaple here, but it might not fit your needs:
http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/books/agaal/autotools_example

> 2) a .exe for win

"LOL""


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From Michael.Wilkerson at Sun.COM  Sat Feb 20 01:44:36 2010
From: Michael.Wilkerson at Sun.COM (Michael Wilkerson)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:44:36 -0800
Subject: JDK 7 build 84 is available at the openjdk.java.net website
Message-ID: <4B7F3E84.5040902@sun.com>

The OpenJDK source is available at:
http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk7/jdk7
http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk7/jdk7/rev/cf26288a114b

The OpenJDK source binary plugs for the promoted JDK 7 build 84 are
available under the openjdk http://openjdk.java.net website under Source
Code (direct link to bundles: http://download.java.net/openjdk/jdk7)

Summary of changes:
http://download.java.net/jdk7/changes/jdk7-b84.html


--Michael Wilkerson


From mark at klomp.org  Tue Feb 23 09:29:38 2010
From: mark at klomp.org (Mark Wielaard)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:29:38 +0100
Subject: Mercurial server down? 500 - Internal Server Error
Message-ID: <1266917378.9439.8.camel@hermans.wildebeest.org>

http://hg.openjdk.java.net/ gives a 500 - Internal Server Error





From gnu_andrew at member.fsf.org  Tue Feb 23 09:38:00 2010
From: gnu_andrew at member.fsf.org (Andrew John Hughes)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:38:00 +0000
Subject: Mercurial server down? 500 - Internal Server Error
In-Reply-To: <1266917378.9439.8.camel@hermans.wildebeest.org>
References: <1266917378.9439.8.camel@hermans.wildebeest.org>
Message-ID: <17c6771e1002230138j73de2f60oe4c3d1747b337f58@mail.gmail.com>

On 23 February 2010 09:29, Mark Wielaard <mark at klomp.org> wrote:
> http://hg.openjdk.java.net/ gives a 500 - Internal Server Error
>
>
>
>

Indeed.  It broke the build:
http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/icedtea-test/2010-February/000007.html
:-(
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From mr at sun.com  Tue Feb 23 15:57:55 2010
From: mr at sun.com (Mark Reinhold)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 07:57:55 -0800
Subject: hg.openjdk.java.net offline
Message-ID: <20100223155755.AD1DD1C7@eggemoggin.niobe.net>

It should be back in an hour or two.

- Mark


From mark at klomp.org  Tue Feb 23 16:05:21 2010
From: mark at klomp.org (Mark Wielaard)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:05:21 +0100
Subject: Mercurial server down? 500 - Internal Server Error
In-Reply-To: <17c6771e1002230138j73de2f60oe4c3d1747b337f58@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1266917378.9439.8.camel@hermans.wildebeest.org>
	<17c6771e1002230138j73de2f60oe4c3d1747b337f58@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1266941121.3367.80.camel@springer.wildebeest.org>

On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 09:38 +0000, Andrew John Hughes wrote:
> On 23 February 2010 09:29, Mark Wielaard <mark at klomp.org> wrote:
> > http://hg.openjdk.java.net/ gives a 500 - Internal Server Error
> >
> Indeed.  It broke the build

If you need access to a fresh clone of some of the main forests (jdk6,
jdk7, icedtea, etc.) to get going again then you can find a read-only
backup copy at http://classpath.wildebeest.org/hg/

Cheers,

Mark



From mr at sun.com  Tue Feb 23 16:35:46 2010
From: mr at sun.com (Mark Reinhold)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 08:35:46 -0800
Subject: hg.openjdk.java.net offline 
In-Reply-To: mr@sun.com; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 07:57:55 PST;
	<20100223155755.AD1DD1C7@eggemoggin.niobe.net> 
Message-ID: <20100223163546.7C3481C7@eggemoggin.niobe.net>

> From: Mark Reinhold <mr at sun.com>
> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 07:57:55 -0800

> It should be back in an hour or two.

It's back.  Happy hacking!

- Mark