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[Andrew Haley]

On 11/03/2010 01:54 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Andrew Haley <aph at redhat.com> wrote:
>> On 11/03/2010 09:17 AM, Mark Wielaard wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 21:49 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Dr Andrew John Hughes
>>>> <gnu_andrew at member.fsf.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Our Free plugin and Web Start implementation have now been split out
>>>>> into the icedtea-web project which should see its first independent
>>>>> release soon.  We'd certainly be interested in seeing this ported to
>>>>> other platforms.
>>>>
>>>> Why not make it part of OpenJDK, so the user only has to install
>>>> openJDK to get a fully functional java installation ? (both JRE and
>>>> browser plug-in and Java Web Start) ??.
>>>
>>> Having independent parts in independent repositories does help with
>>> parallel development sometimes. It isn't much different from having
>>> separate hg trees in a forest. Of course if you want to provide a full
>>> free java implementation you have to combine them for your users.
>>> Everybody is free to do that when they create a distribution, and that
>>> is what the GNU/Linux distos do for their icedtea/openjdk packages.
>>
>> That's right.
>>
>> I'm not at all convinced that there is any benefit in having Java
>> install in one enormous lump.  If I had my way the installation would
>> be much more fine-grained, and with the development of Project Jigsaw
>> it seems clear that this is the way things are headed.
> 
> I disagree strongly. You´re thinking as a developer. I´m thinking as
> an end-user.
> 
> In the windows world, people are told to "download and install Java"
> (the JRE) and it´s a single package, a single process.

Yeah, and it's a pain in the ass.  You shouldn't have to "download and
install Java".  That's a hangover from proprietary software, when Java
was not part of the operating system.  With a real package system, when
you install a Java application, the relevant bits of Java get installed.

> Likewise, in the Linux world, I´d expect a
> 
> apt-get install openjdk
> 
> To produce a full, working installation of Java, just as in Windows,
> (JRE, web browser plug-in, and Java WebStart).

That's up to Debian.  If they want their "openjdk" to be a meta-package
that pulls in everything, they can.  But that it very different from
saying that the package *should* be one lump.  It shouldn't.

Andrew.