OpenJDK Governing Board Minutes: 20011/4/21

Mark Wielaard mark at klomp.org
Thu Apr 28 09:17:15 UTC 2011


Hi Fernando,

On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 05:52 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Dr Andrew John Hughes
> <gnu_andrew at member.fsf.org> wrote:
> > So in short, this unelected self-imposed board
>
> Please read this:
> 
> http://www.scottberkun.com/blog/2010/how-to-convince-anyone-of-anything/

So, how do you propose this so called "governing board" goes about
convincing people like Andrew to not throw up their hands in disgust at
ignoring the people doing actual community work and trying very hard not
to just have to give up on OpenJDK and fork away? This board is largely
made up of people which are not even actual OpenJDK hackers.

There was a lot of specific feedback [*] aimed at both the selection of
candidates and the actual governance structure, that as far as I can see
has been largely ignored. This board doesn't convince that they should
be "in charge" of governing.

You can expect reactions like Andrew's if all the important questions
asked on both the gb mailing lists and at Fosdem are largely ignored.
How can we get answers to them and be convinced that the answers are the
right ones? I also thought Andrew's message was somewhat undiplomatic,
but he did express precisely what I was thinking myself.

Thanks,

Mark

[*] See for example Andrew's own questions:
http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/gb-discuss/2011-February/000081.html




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