OpenJDK Governing Board Minutes: 20011/4/21

Simon Phipps simon at
Thu May 5 22:32:41 UTC 2011

On 5 May 2011, at 23:30, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote:

> On 5 May 2011 23:25, Simon Phipps <simon at> wrote:
>> On 5 May 2011, at 23:18, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote:
>>> I completely agree.  There are way too many lists and the only benefit
>>> of this list is it allows Oracle to hide material they don't want
>>> everyone to see.
>> Personally I am happy to restrict my conspiracy theories just to the places where there are probably conspiracies. Mailing list hierarchy abuse seems the very least of our problems here.
> I don't think it's true, especially given the list was set up during
> the Sun era.  It's more it's the only reason I could possibly think of
> why you would want two separate lists.  It's not like either are
> particularly heavy traffic.  In fact, most OpenJDK lists only have
> traffic because commit notifications are sent to them.
> Maybe someone should put some of them out of their misery?

I'm in no doubt that it was a well-intentioned breach of YAGNI that made it happen (probably emulating OpenSolaris where it was in fact necessary due to the overwhelming traffic on the -discuss list). 


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