Update on bug system for OpenJDK (web-discuss)

[Volker Simonis]

Ok, then maybe we have to specify more precise what a "Contributer" is:

1. According to the OpenJDK site (http://openjdk.java.net/contribute/)
it's an individual who has signed the OCA. But currently these
"contributors" don't get any "credentials" they could use to
authenticate. Although that would require a new infrastructure that
would have to be set up this solution would be ok for me because
everybody who is seriously interested in contributing to the OpenJDK
would have a chance to become a "contributor".

2. If you mean "Contributor" in the sense of "somebody who has commit
rights into a Mercurial repository", that would be to rigorous in my
opinion and would prevent many serious contributions.

3.  Somebody who has requested an account trough a "trivial and fast
procedure" as proposed before (and as it is today) would be probably
to lax from you point of view.

What do you think?

Volker

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 2:21 PM, David Holmes <David.Holmes at oracle.com> wrote:
> Volker Simonis said the following on 05/27/11 20:11:
>>
>> I think it shouldn't be only writable by anyone - it should be
>> possible to enter bugs which will become visible instantly.
>>
>> It wouldn't make sense to make the new system writable only by
>> contributors taking into account that the old system at bugs.sun.com
>> is already writable by everybody. But the way how bugs.sun.com
>> currently handles new entries which are first kept private and then
>> only published after a certain amount of time without any notification
>> to the submitter is at least insane. That way you can not enter a bug
>> and then start a discussion about it because you simply don't have a
>> reference to it. Instead you have to manually poll the system to see
>> when it finally appears publicly.
>
> The lack of notification may be "insane" but the process isn't insane once
> you see the volume of crud that gets submitted as bug reports. The current
> process certainly has some issues but you need a first-level filtering
> mechanism of some kind.  Most bug reports don't come from contributors, they
> come from users.
>
> So I'd say that contributors should be able to make entries to the bug
> system, but users should still submit via some other front-end.
>
> David Holmes
>
>> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Michael Klishin
>> <michael.s.klishin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> mark.reinhold at oracle.com escribió:
>>>> I completely agree. The primary users of this bug system are OpenJDK
>>>> Contributors. It will be readable by anyone, of course, but I'm not
>>>> sure it should be writable by anyone other than Contributors.
>>>
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>> I think that if the bugs system will be read-only for "regular
>>> developers", they will post their issues
>>> on various mailing lists or won't post them anywhere at all, and in the
>>> end it will be significantly harder for everyone, including contributors
>>> and Oracle employees, to keep track of issues.
>>>
>>> Given that OpenJDK is a pretty large project with many moving parts, that
>>> would be a loss-loss situation for everyone, IMO.
>>>
>>> My 2¢.--
>>> MK
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