From benjamin.john.evans at gmail.com Fri Nov 2 17:28:27 2012 From: benjamin.john.evans at gmail.com (Ben Evans) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 17:28:27 +0000 Subject: Fwd: OpenJDK Build & Test Meet - Devoxx In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Crossposted here for a wider audience... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ben Evans Date: Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 5:20 PM Subject: OpenJDK Build & Test Meet - Devoxx To: quality-discuss at openjdk.java.net Hi, The build & test meeting at JavaOne was a great success, so we're going to organise another one at Devoxx. The date & time which seems to work the best is Tuesday 13th November at 1930. If you're going to be at Devoxx and want to attend then please mail me offlist. Thanks, Ben From donald.smith at oracle.com Fri Nov 2 17:59:33 2012 From: donald.smith at oracle.com (Donald Smith) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 10:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fwd: OpenJDK Build & Test Meet - Devoxx In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50940A05.5090003@oracle.com> Adding Brian and Nandini, whom I'd like to introduce as being very interested in participating in this gathering at Devoxx from Oracle. Cecilia will also be there for sure. Just pinging with Dalibor, and I believe people may be just getting in on Tuesday -- I just throw this out for discussion, but maybe Wednesday night after the BOF's might work (10pm), or what about Wednsday meeting at lunch time (grabbing a section to eat together)? - Don On 02/11/2012 1:28 PM, Ben Evans wrote: > Crossposted here for a wider audience... > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Ben Evans > Date: Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 5:20 PM > Subject: OpenJDK Build& Test Meet - Devoxx > To: quality-discuss at openjdk.java.net > > > Hi, > > The build& test meeting at JavaOne was a great success, so we're > going to organise another one at Devoxx. > > The date& time which seems to work the best is Tuesday 13th November at 1930. > > If you're going to be at Devoxx and want to attend then please mail me offlist. > > Thanks, > > Ben From cecilia.borg at oracle.com Fri Nov 2 23:17:18 2012 From: cecilia.borg at oracle.com (Cecilia Borg) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 00:17:18 +0100 Subject: OpenJDK Build & Test Meet - Devoxx In-Reply-To: <50940A05.5090003@oracle.com> References: <50940A05.5090003@oracle.com> Message-ID: <7818F847-EC57-48B2-B378-BE9E744B3179@oracle.com> Dalibor and I will arrive Wed noon!! Possible to change timing? Cecilia 2 nov 2012 kl. 18:59 skrev Donald Smith : > Adding Brian and Nandini, whom I'd like to introduce as being very interested in participating in this gathering at Devoxx from Oracle. Cecilia will also be there for sure. > > Just pinging with Dalibor, and I believe people may be just getting in on Tuesday -- I just throw this out for discussion, but maybe Wednesday night after the BOF's might work (10pm), or what about Wednsday meeting at lunch time (grabbing a section to eat together)? > > - Don > > On 02/11/2012 1:28 PM, Ben Evans wrote: >> Crossposted here for a wider audience... >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Ben Evans >> Date: Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 5:20 PM >> Subject: OpenJDK Build& Test Meet - Devoxx >> To: quality-discuss at openjdk.java.net >> >> >> Hi, >> >> The build& test meeting at JavaOne was a great success, so we're >> going to organise another one at Devoxx. >> >> The date& time which seems to work the best is Tuesday 13th November at 1930. >> >> If you're going to be at Devoxx and want to attend then please mail me offlist. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ben From patrick at reini.net Sun Nov 4 18:01:08 2012 From: patrick at reini.net (Patrick Reinhart) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 19:01:08 +0100 Subject: Any OpenJDK printing folks at Devoxx Message-ID: <5096AD64.90601@reini.net> Hi threre Will be a anyone at Devoxx to talk about the printing framework at Devoxx? I would like to fix 2 bugs that I have submitted some years ago and like to discuss some possible aproaches to fix them. Regards Patrick From philip.race at oracle.com Sun Nov 4 19:24:47 2012 From: philip.race at oracle.com (Phil Race) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 11:24:47 -0800 Subject: Any OpenJDK printing folks at Devoxx In-Reply-To: <5096AD64.90601@reini.net> References: <5096AD64.90601@reini.net> Message-ID: <5096C0FF.2030002@oracle.com> Patrick, Printing is covered under Java 2D. And no one from 2D is not going to devoxx. You can email me on the 2d-dev list instead. -phil. On 11/4/12 10:01 AM, Patrick Reinhart wrote: > Hi threre > > Will be a anyone at Devoxx to talk about the printing framework at > Devoxx? I would like to fix 2 bugs that I have submitted some years > ago and like to discuss some possible aproaches to fix them. > > Regards > > Patrick From donald.smith at oracle.com Thu Nov 8 18:31:53 2012 From: donald.smith at oracle.com (Donald Smith) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 13:31:53 -0500 Subject: OpenJDK Build & Test Meet - Devoxx In-Reply-To: <7818F847-EC57-48B2-B378-BE9E744B3179@oracle.com> References: <50940A05.5090003@oracle.com> <7818F847-EC57-48B2-B378-BE9E744B3179@oracle.com> Message-ID: <509BFA99.1070702@oracle.com> I won't actually be at Devoxx, so not sure how much I can help nudge this along, but would like to try to get close on something to help those with tight schedules. Is Wed at 10pm (after BoF sessions) too late, or would Thursday lunch be more ideal? - Don On 02/11/2012 7:17 PM, Cecilia Borg wrote: > Dalibor and I will arrive Wed noon!! Possible to change timing? > > Cecilia > > > > 2 nov 2012 kl. 18:59 skrev Donald Smith: > >> Adding Brian and Nandini, whom I'd like to introduce as being very interested in participating in this gathering at Devoxx from Oracle. Cecilia will also be there for sure. >> >> Just pinging with Dalibor, and I believe people may be just getting in on Tuesday -- I just throw this out for discussion, but maybe Wednesday night after the BOF's might work (10pm), or what about Wednsday meeting at lunch time (grabbing a section to eat together)? >> >> - Don >> >> On 02/11/2012 1:28 PM, Ben Evans wrote: >>> Crossposted here for a wider audience... >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Ben Evans >>> Date: Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 5:20 PM >>> Subject: OpenJDK Build& Test Meet - Devoxx >>> To: quality-discuss at openjdk.java.net >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> The build& test meeting at JavaOne was a great success, so we're >>> going to organise another one at Devoxx. >>> >>> The date& time which seems to work the best is Tuesday 13th November at 1930. >>> >>> If you're going to be at Devoxx and want to attend then please mail me offlist. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Ben From Nandini.Ramani at oracle.com Thu Nov 8 18:38:23 2012 From: Nandini.Ramani at oracle.com (Nandini Ramani) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 10:38:23 -0800 Subject: OpenJDK Build & Test Meet - Devoxx In-Reply-To: <509BFA99.1070702@oracle.com> References: <50940A05.5090003@oracle.com> <7818F847-EC57-48B2-B378-BE9E744B3179@oracle.com> <509BFA99.1070702@oracle.com> Message-ID: Unfortunately, I leave on Thur morning. So, it will have to be Wed PM. (at least for an initial meeting). You could schedule a follow-on without me on Thur/Fri -Nandini On Nov 8, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Donald Smith wrote: > I won't actually be at Devoxx, so not sure how much I can help nudge this along, but would like to try to get close on something to help those with tight schedules. > > Is Wed at 10pm (after BoF sessions) too late, or would Thursday lunch be more ideal? > > - Don > > On 02/11/2012 7:17 PM, Cecilia Borg wrote: >> Dalibor and I will arrive Wed noon!! Possible to change timing? >> >> Cecilia >> >> >> >> 2 nov 2012 kl. 18:59 skrev Donald Smith: >> >>> Adding Brian and Nandini, whom I'd like to introduce as being very interested in participating in this gathering at Devoxx from Oracle. Cecilia will also be there for sure. >>> >>> Just pinging with Dalibor, and I believe people may be just getting in on Tuesday -- I just throw this out for discussion, but maybe Wednesday night after the BOF's might work (10pm), or what about Wednsday meeting at lunch time (grabbing a section to eat together)? >>> >>> - Don >>> >>> On 02/11/2012 1:28 PM, Ben Evans wrote: >>>> Crossposted here for a wider audience... >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: Ben Evans >>>> Date: Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 5:20 PM >>>> Subject: OpenJDK Build& Test Meet - Devoxx >>>> To: quality-discuss at openjdk.java.net >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> The build& test meeting at JavaOne was a great success, so we're >>>> going to organise another one at Devoxx. >>>> >>>> The date& time which seems to work the best is Tuesday 13th November at 1930. >>>> >>>> If you're going to be at Devoxx and want to attend then please mail me offlist. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Ben From benjamin.john.evans at gmail.com Thu Nov 8 18:55:14 2012 From: benjamin.john.evans at gmail.com (Ben Evans) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 18:55:14 +0000 Subject: OpenJDK Build & Test Meet - Devoxx In-Reply-To: References: <50940A05.5090003@oracle.com> <7818F847-EC57-48B2-B378-BE9E744B3179@oracle.com> <509BFA99.1070702@oracle.com> Message-ID: Wednesday pm is going to be extremely difficult. I shall consult the scheduling oracles (no pun intended) & do the best we can. Will try to get something out in the next day or so. Thanks, Ben On 8 Nov 2012 18:40, "Nandini Ramani" wrote: > Unfortunately, I leave on Thur morning. So, it will have to be Wed PM. (at > least for an initial meeting). You could schedule a follow-on without me on > Thur/Fri > > -Nandini > > On Nov 8, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Donald Smith wrote: > > > I won't actually be at Devoxx, so not sure how much I can help nudge > this along, but would like to try to get close on something to help those > with tight schedules. > > > > Is Wed at 10pm (after BoF sessions) too late, or would Thursday lunch be > more ideal? > > > > - Don > > > > On 02/11/2012 7:17 PM, Cecilia Borg wrote: > >> Dalibor and I will arrive Wed noon!! Possible to change timing? > >> > >> Cecilia > >> > >> > >> > >> 2 nov 2012 kl. 18:59 skrev Donald Smith: > >> > >>> Adding Brian and Nandini, whom I'd like to introduce as being very > interested in participating in this gathering at Devoxx from Oracle. > Cecilia will also be there for sure. > >>> > >>> Just pinging with Dalibor, and I believe people may be just getting in > on Tuesday -- I just throw this out for discussion, but maybe Wednesday > night after the BOF's might work (10pm), or what about Wednsday meeting at > lunch time (grabbing a section to eat together)? > >>> > >>> - Don > >>> > >>> On 02/11/2012 1:28 PM, Ben Evans wrote: > >>>> Crossposted here for a wider audience... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >>>> From: Ben Evans > >>>> Date: Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 5:20 PM > >>>> Subject: OpenJDK Build& Test Meet - Devoxx > >>>> To: quality-discuss at openjdk.java.net > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> The build& test meeting at JavaOne was a great success, so we're > >>>> going to organise another one at Devoxx. > >>>> > >>>> The date& time which seems to work the best is Tuesday 13th > November at 1930. > >>>> > >>>> If you're going to be at Devoxx and want to attend then please mail > me offlist. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> > >>>> Ben > > From Nandini.Ramani at oracle.com Thu Nov 8 20:11:14 2012 From: Nandini.Ramani at oracle.com (Nandini Ramani) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 12:11:14 -0800 Subject: OpenJDK Build & Test Meet - Devoxx In-Reply-To: References: <50940A05.5090003@oracle.com> <7818F847-EC57-48B2-B378-BE9E744B3179@oracle.com> <509BFA99.1070702@oracle.com> Message-ID: I understand. If it doesn't work out, please go ahead without me, I will sync up with others later. Cheers -Nandini On Nov 8, 2012, at 10:55 AM, Ben Evans wrote: > Wednesday pm is going to be extremely difficult. > > I shall consult the scheduling oracles (no pun intended) & do the best we can. Will try to get something out in the next day or so. > > Thanks, > > Ben > > On 8 Nov 2012 18:40, "Nandini Ramani" wrote: > Unfortunately, I leave on Thur morning. So, it will have to be Wed PM. (at least for an initial meeting). You could schedule a follow-on without me on Thur/Fri > > -Nandini > > On Nov 8, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Donald Smith wrote: > > > I won't actually be at Devoxx, so not sure how much I can help nudge this along, but would like to try to get close on something to help those with tight schedules. > > > > Is Wed at 10pm (after BoF sessions) too late, or would Thursday lunch be more ideal? > > > > - Don > > > > On 02/11/2012 7:17 PM, Cecilia Borg wrote: > >> Dalibor and I will arrive Wed noon!! Possible to change timing? > >> > >> Cecilia > >> > >> > >> > >> 2 nov 2012 kl. 18:59 skrev Donald Smith: > >> > >>> Adding Brian and Nandini, whom I'd like to introduce as being very interested in participating in this gathering at Devoxx from Oracle. Cecilia will also be there for sure. > >>> > >>> Just pinging with Dalibor, and I believe people may be just getting in on Tuesday -- I just throw this out for discussion, but maybe Wednesday night after the BOF's might work (10pm), or what about Wednsday meeting at lunch time (grabbing a section to eat together)? > >>> > >>> - Don > >>> > >>> On 02/11/2012 1:28 PM, Ben Evans wrote: > >>>> Crossposted here for a wider audience... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >>>> From: Ben Evans > >>>> Date: Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 5:20 PM > >>>> Subject: OpenJDK Build& Test Meet - Devoxx > >>>> To: quality-discuss at openjdk.java.net > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> The build& test meeting at JavaOne was a great success, so we're > >>>> going to organise another one at Devoxx. > >>>> > >>>> The date& time which seems to work the best is Tuesday 13th November at 1930. > >>>> > >>>> If you're going to be at Devoxx and want to attend then please mail me offlist. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> > >>>> Ben > From patrick at reini.net Fri Nov 9 20:57:50 2012 From: patrick at reini.net (Patrick Reinhart) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 21:57:50 +0100 Subject: Any OpenJDK printing folks at Devoxx In-Reply-To: <5096C0FF.2030002@oracle.com> References: <5096AD64.90601@reini.net> <5096C0FF.2030002@oracle.com> Message-ID: <320786A9-A2D1-4EF3-BB8A-346A641ED267@reini.net> Hi Phil, Thanks for your Info. I will get in Touch with you as soon I am back from Devoxx then... Regards Patrick Am 04.11.2012 um 20:24 schrieb Phil Race : > Patrick, > > Printing is covered under Java 2D. And no one from 2D is not going to devoxx. > You can email me on the 2d-dev list instead. > > -phil. > > On 11/4/12 10:01 AM, Patrick Reinhart wrote: >> Hi threre >> >> Will be a anyone at Devoxx to talk about the printing framework at Devoxx? I would like to fix 2 bugs that I have submitted some years ago and like to discuss some possible aproaches to fix them. >> >> Regards >> >> Patrick > From benjamin.john.evans at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 13:00:11 2012 From: benjamin.john.evans at gmail.com (Ben Evans) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 14:00:11 +0100 Subject: OpenJDK Build & Test Meet - Devoxx In-Reply-To: References: <50940A05.5090003@oracle.com> <7818F847-EC57-48B2-B378-BE9E744B3179@oracle.com> <509BFA99.1070702@oracle.com> Message-ID: Ok, after a certain amount of to-ing & fro-ing, I think that tomorrow, i.e. Wednesday at 1700 is the best of a bad bunch of options. I propose we meet at the Oracle booth at 1655 and decamp to one of the nearby cafe / bars at 1700 sharp. Can people give me a quick show of hands (offlist) so we have some idea of group size? Thanks, Ben On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Ben Evans wrote: > Wednesday pm is going to be extremely difficult. > > I shall consult the scheduling oracles (no pun intended) & do the best we > can. Will try to get something out in the next day or so. > > Thanks, > > Ben > > On 8 Nov 2012 18:40, "Nandini Ramani" wrote: >> >> Unfortunately, I leave on Thur morning. So, it will have to be Wed PM. (at >> least for an initial meeting). You could schedule a follow-on without me on >> Thur/Fri >> >> -Nandini >> >> On Nov 8, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Donald Smith wrote: >> >> > I won't actually be at Devoxx, so not sure how much I can help nudge >> > this along, but would like to try to get close on something to help those >> > with tight schedules. >> > >> > Is Wed at 10pm (after BoF sessions) too late, or would Thursday lunch be >> > more ideal? >> > >> > - Don >> > >> > On 02/11/2012 7:17 PM, Cecilia Borg wrote: >> >> Dalibor and I will arrive Wed noon!! Possible to change timing? >> >> >> >> Cecilia >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2 nov 2012 kl. 18:59 skrev Donald Smith: >> >> >> >>> Adding Brian and Nandini, whom I'd like to introduce as being very >> >>> interested in participating in this gathering at Devoxx from Oracle. >> >>> Cecilia will also be there for sure. >> >>> >> >>> Just pinging with Dalibor, and I believe people may be just getting in >> >>> on Tuesday -- I just throw this out for discussion, but maybe Wednesday >> >>> night after the BOF's might work (10pm), or what about Wednsday meeting at >> >>> lunch time (grabbing a section to eat together)? >> >>> >> >>> - Don >> >>> >> >>> On 02/11/2012 1:28 PM, Ben Evans wrote: >> >>>> Crossposted here for a wider audience... >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> >>>> From: Ben Evans >> >>>> Date: Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 5:20 PM >> >>>> Subject: OpenJDK Build& Test Meet - Devoxx >> >>>> To: quality-discuss at openjdk.java.net >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Hi, >> >>>> >> >>>> The build& test meeting at JavaOne was a great success, so we're >> >>>> going to organise another one at Devoxx. >> >>>> >> >>>> The date& time which seems to work the best is Tuesday 13th >> >>>> November at 1930. >> >>>> >> >>>> If you're going to be at Devoxx and want to attend then please mail >> >>>> me offlist. >> >>>> >> >>>> Thanks, >> >>>> >> >>>> Ben >> > From cecilia.borg at oracle.com Tue Nov 13 13:23:18 2012 From: cecilia.borg at oracle.com (Cecilia Borg) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 14:23:18 +0100 Subject: OpenJDK Build & Test Meet - Devoxx In-Reply-To: References: <50940A05.5090003@oracle.com> <7818F847-EC57-48B2-B378-BE9E744B3179@oracle.com> <509BFA99.1070702@oracle.com> Message-ID: <9CEED65B-E131-4ABB-A3BB-EBAFE549058D@oracle.com> Thanks Ben! I'll be there. Cecilia 13 nov 2012 kl. 14:00 skrev Ben Evans: > Ok, after a certain amount of to-ing & fro-ing, I think that tomorrow, > i.e. Wednesday at 1700 is the best of a bad bunch of options. > > I propose we meet at the Oracle booth at 1655 and decamp to one of the > nearby cafe / bars at 1700 sharp. > > Can people give me a quick show of hands (offlist) so we have some > idea of group size? > > Thanks, > > Ben > > On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Ben Evans wrote: >> Wednesday pm is going to be extremely difficult. >> >> I shall consult the scheduling oracles (no pun intended) & do the best we >> can. Will try to get something out in the next day or so. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ben >> >> On 8 Nov 2012 18:40, "Nandini Ramani" wrote: >>> >>> Unfortunately, I leave on Thur morning. So, it will have to be Wed PM. (at >>> least for an initial meeting). You could schedule a follow-on without me on >>> Thur/Fri >>> >>> -Nandini >>> >>> On Nov 8, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Donald Smith wrote: >>> >>>> I won't actually be at Devoxx, so not sure how much I can help nudge >>>> this along, but would like to try to get close on something to help those >>>> with tight schedules. >>>> >>>> Is Wed at 10pm (after BoF sessions) too late, or would Thursday lunch be >>>> more ideal? >>>> >>>> - Don >>>> >>>> On 02/11/2012 7:17 PM, Cecilia Borg wrote: >>>>> Dalibor and I will arrive Wed noon!! Possible to change timing? >>>>> >>>>> Cecilia >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2 nov 2012 kl. 18:59 skrev Donald Smith: >>>>> >>>>>> Adding Brian and Nandini, whom I'd like to introduce as being very >>>>>> interested in participating in this gathering at Devoxx from Oracle. >>>>>> Cecilia will also be there for sure. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just pinging with Dalibor, and I believe people may be just getting in >>>>>> on Tuesday -- I just throw this out for discussion, but maybe Wednesday >>>>>> night after the BOF's might work (10pm), or what about Wednsday meeting at >>>>>> lunch time (grabbing a section to eat together)? >>>>>> >>>>>> - Don >>>>>> >>>>>> On 02/11/2012 1:28 PM, Ben Evans wrote: >>>>>>> Crossposted here for a wider audience... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>> From: Ben Evans >>>>>>> Date: Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 5:20 PM >>>>>>> Subject: OpenJDK Build& Test Meet - Devoxx >>>>>>> To: quality-discuss at openjdk.java.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The build& test meeting at JavaOne was a great success, so we're >>>>>>> going to organise another one at Devoxx. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The date& time which seems to work the best is Tuesday 13th >>>>>>> November at 1930. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you're going to be at Devoxx and want to attend then please mail >>>>>>> me offlist. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ben >>> >> Oracle Sweden Cecilia Borg M.Sc.| Sr Engineering Manager | Java Product Management +46 70 710 62 83 | S?der M?larstrand 57 6th floor | PO Box 17084 | SE-104 62 STOCKHOLM From johnyeary at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 13:23:21 2012 From: johnyeary at gmail.com (John Yeary) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:23:21 -0500 Subject: OpenJDK Build & Test Meet - Devoxx In-Reply-To: References: <50940A05.5090003@oracle.com> <7818F847-EC57-48B2-B378-BE9E744B3179@oracle.com> <509BFA99.1070702@oracle.com> Message-ID: Hello Ben, Will it be online? John ____________________________ John Yeary ____________________________ *NetBeans Dream Team* *President Greenville Java Users Group Java Users Groups Community Leader Java Enterprise Community Leader* ____________________________ "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat." -- Theodore Roosevelt On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Ben Evans wrote: > Ok, after a certain amount of to-ing & fro-ing, I think that tomorrow, > i.e. Wednesday at 1700 is the best of a bad bunch of options. > > I propose we meet at the Oracle booth at 1655 and decamp to one of the > nearby cafe / bars at 1700 sharp. > > Can people give me a quick show of hands (offlist) so we have some > idea of group size? > > Thanks, > > Ben > > On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Ben Evans > wrote: > > Wednesday pm is going to be extremely difficult. > > > > I shall consult the scheduling oracles (no pun intended) & do the best we > > can. Will try to get something out in the next day or so. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Ben > > > > On 8 Nov 2012 18:40, "Nandini Ramani" wrote: > >> > >> Unfortunately, I leave on Thur morning. So, it will have to be Wed PM. > (at > >> least for an initial meeting). You could schedule a follow-on without > me on > >> Thur/Fri > >> > >> -Nandini > >> > >> On Nov 8, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Donald Smith > wrote: > >> > >> > I won't actually be at Devoxx, so not sure how much I can help nudge > >> > this along, but would like to try to get close on something to help > those > >> > with tight schedules. > >> > > >> > Is Wed at 10pm (after BoF sessions) too late, or would Thursday lunch > be > >> > more ideal? > >> > > >> > - Don > >> > > >> > On 02/11/2012 7:17 PM, Cecilia Borg wrote: > >> >> Dalibor and I will arrive Wed noon!! Possible to change timing? > >> >> > >> >> Cecilia > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> 2 nov 2012 kl. 18:59 skrev Donald Smith: > >> >> > >> >>> Adding Brian and Nandini, whom I'd like to introduce as being very > >> >>> interested in participating in this gathering at Devoxx from Oracle. > >> >>> Cecilia will also be there for sure. > >> >>> > >> >>> Just pinging with Dalibor, and I believe people may be just getting > in > >> >>> on Tuesday -- I just throw this out for discussion, but maybe > Wednesday > >> >>> night after the BOF's might work (10pm), or what about Wednsday > meeting at > >> >>> lunch time (grabbing a section to eat together)? > >> >>> > >> >>> - Don > >> >>> > >> >>> On 02/11/2012 1:28 PM, Ben Evans wrote: > >> >>>> Crossposted here for a wider audience... > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> >>>> From: Ben Evans > >> >>>> Date: Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 5:20 PM > >> >>>> Subject: OpenJDK Build& Test Meet - Devoxx > >> >>>> To: quality-discuss at openjdk.java.net > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Hi, > >> >>>> > >> >>>> The build& test meeting at JavaOne was a great success, so we're > >> >>>> going to organise another one at Devoxx. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> The date& time which seems to work the best is Tuesday 13th > >> >>>> November at 1930. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> If you're going to be at Devoxx and want to attend then please mail > >> >>>> me offlist. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Thanks, > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Ben > >> > > > From Nandini.Ramani at oracle.com Tue Nov 13 13:56:09 2012 From: Nandini.Ramani at oracle.com (Nandini Ramani) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 14:56:09 +0100 Subject: OpenJDK Build & Test Meet - Devoxx In-Reply-To: References: <50940A05.5090003@oracle.com> <7818F847-EC57-48B2-B378-BE9E744B3179@oracle.com> <509BFA99.1070702@oracle.com> Message-ID: <4A01A2CA-3217-4048-AA44-8BBBAB929117@oracle.com> I will be there. On Nov 13, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Ben Evans wrote: > Ok, after a certain amount of to-ing & fro-ing, I think that tomorrow, > i.e. Wednesday at 1700 is the best of a bad bunch of options. > > I propose we meet at the Oracle booth at 1655 and decamp to one of the > nearby cafe / bars at 1700 sharp. > > Can people give me a quick show of hands (offlist) so we have some > idea of group size? > > Thanks, > > Ben > > On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Ben Evans wrote: >> Wednesday pm is going to be extremely difficult. >> >> I shall consult the scheduling oracles (no pun intended) & do the best we >> can. Will try to get something out in the next day or so. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ben >> >> On 8 Nov 2012 18:40, "Nandini Ramani" wrote: >>> >>> Unfortunately, I leave on Thur morning. So, it will have to be Wed PM. (at >>> least for an initial meeting). You could schedule a follow-on without me on >>> Thur/Fri >>> >>> -Nandini >>> >>> On Nov 8, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Donald Smith wrote: >>> >>>> I won't actually be at Devoxx, so not sure how much I can help nudge >>>> this along, but would like to try to get close on something to help those >>>> with tight schedules. >>>> >>>> Is Wed at 10pm (after BoF sessions) too late, or would Thursday lunch be >>>> more ideal? >>>> >>>> - Don >>>> >>>> On 02/11/2012 7:17 PM, Cecilia Borg wrote: >>>>> Dalibor and I will arrive Wed noon!! Possible to change timing? >>>>> >>>>> Cecilia >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2 nov 2012 kl. 18:59 skrev Donald Smith: >>>>> >>>>>> Adding Brian and Nandini, whom I'd like to introduce as being very >>>>>> interested in participating in this gathering at Devoxx from Oracle. >>>>>> Cecilia will also be there for sure. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just pinging with Dalibor, and I believe people may be just getting in >>>>>> on Tuesday -- I just throw this out for discussion, but maybe Wednesday >>>>>> night after the BOF's might work (10pm), or what about Wednsday meeting at >>>>>> lunch time (grabbing a section to eat together)? >>>>>> >>>>>> - Don >>>>>> >>>>>> On 02/11/2012 1:28 PM, Ben Evans wrote: >>>>>>> Crossposted here for a wider audience... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>> From: Ben Evans >>>>>>> Date: Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 5:20 PM >>>>>>> Subject: OpenJDK Build& Test Meet - Devoxx >>>>>>> To: quality-discuss at openjdk.java.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The build& test meeting at JavaOne was a great success, so we're >>>>>>> going to organise another one at Devoxx. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The date& time which seems to work the best is Tuesday 13th >>>>>>> November at 1930. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you're going to be at Devoxx and want to attend then please mail >>>>>>> me offlist. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ben >>> >> From gnu.andrew at redhat.com Tue Nov 13 17:21:06 2012 From: gnu.andrew at redhat.com (Andrew Hughes) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:21:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: OpenJDK on Android In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <563563295.130507.1352827266529.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> ----- Original Message ----- > Why isn?t there a OpenJDK for Android? Would it be too difficult to > port?. > License restrictions on the part of Google to include third party > runtimes? > > In short, has anyone attempted to build a OpenJDK for Android? What > are the > technical hurdles, if any? > > FC > Lack of an ARM port? Don't most Android devices run on ARM? -- Andrew :) Free Java Software Engineer Red Hat, Inc. (http://www.redhat.com) PGP Key: 248BDC07 (https://keys.indymedia.org/) Fingerprint = EC5A 1F5E C0AD 1D15 8F1F 8F91 3B96 A578 248B DC07 From gnu.andrew at redhat.com Tue Nov 13 17:32:33 2012 From: gnu.andrew at redhat.com (Andrew Hughes) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:32:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: JAXP Patches Message-ID: <133300952.138218.1352827953006.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> We've had a fix submitted for JAXP: http://icedtea.classpath.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1210 How do we go about getting this upstream? I'm aware there is some upstream of OpenJDK for this. -- Andrew :) Free Java Software Engineer Red Hat, Inc. (http://www.redhat.com) PGP Key: 248BDC07 (https://keys.indymedia.org/) Fingerprint = EC5A 1F5E C0AD 1D15 8F1F 8F91 3B96 A578 248B DC07 From Ryan.LaMothe at pnnl.gov Tue Nov 13 19:50:09 2012 From: Ryan.LaMothe at pnnl.gov (LaMothe, Ryan R) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:50:09 -0800 Subject: OpenJDK on Android In-Reply-To: <563563295.130507.1352827266529.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> Message-ID: Of even more interest, I think, is why Google chose to use Apache Harmony instead of OpenJDK in the first place? __________________________________________________ Ryan LaMothe On 11/13/12 9:21 AM, "Andrew Hughes" wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >> Why isn?t there a OpenJDK for Android? Would it be too difficult to >> port?. >> License restrictions on the part of Google to include third party >> runtimes? >> >> In short, has anyone attempted to build a OpenJDK for Android? What >> are the >> technical hurdles, if any? >> >> FC >> > >Lack of an ARM port? Don't most Android devices run on ARM? >-- >Andrew :) > >Free Java Software Engineer >Red Hat, Inc. (http://www.redhat.com) > >PGP Key: 248BDC07 (https://keys.indymedia.org/) >Fingerprint = EC5A 1F5E C0AD 1D15 8F1F 8F91 3B96 A578 248B DC07 > From geir at pobox.com Tue Nov 13 20:19:37 2012 From: geir at pobox.com (Geir Magnusson Jr.) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 15:19:37 -0500 Subject: OpenJDK on Android In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5EB4D0C7-C38A-48E5-9DD6-3EA3F99DE608@pobox.com> the lack of GPL for starters as well as the fact that Harmony was first :) On Nov 13, 2012, at 2:50 PM, "LaMothe, Ryan R" wrote: > Of even more interest, I think, is why Google chose to use Apache Harmony > instead of OpenJDK in the first place? > > > __________________________________________________ > > Ryan LaMothe > > > > On 11/13/12 9:21 AM, "Andrew Hughes" wrote: > >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> Why isn?t there a OpenJDK for Android? Would it be too difficult to >>> port?. >>> License restrictions on the part of Google to include third party >>> runtimes? >>> >>> In short, has anyone attempted to build a OpenJDK for Android? What >>> are the >>> technical hurdles, if any? >>> >>> FC >>> >> >> Lack of an ARM port? Don't most Android devices run on ARM? >> -- >> Andrew :) >> >> Free Java Software Engineer >> Red Hat, Inc. (http://www.redhat.com) >> >> PGP Key: 248BDC07 (https://keys.indymedia.org/) >> Fingerprint = EC5A 1F5E C0AD 1D15 8F1F 8F91 3B96 A578 248B DC07 >> > From fcassia at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 22:03:13 2012 From: fcassia at gmail.com (Fernando Cassia) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:03:13 -0300 Subject: OpenJDK on Android In-Reply-To: References: <563563295.130507.1352827266529.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:50 PM, LaMothe, Ryan R wrote: > Of even more interest, I think, is why Google chose to use Apache Harmony > instead of OpenJDK in the first place > That is history. I?m not interested in history and history of corporations? political decisions. I?m interested in knowing what technical hurdles are there that prevent OpenJDK from running atop Android (if any). Let?s move forward. There are pretty good ARM ports of OpenJDK already, so what?s missing?. What prevents someone from building "OpenJDK for Android/ARM" and offering it for download so that those who want to run Java SE apps atop Android can do it?. FC From fcassia at gmail.com Wed Nov 14 04:38:30 2012 From: fcassia at gmail.com (Fernando Cassia) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 01:38:30 -0300 Subject: OpenJDK on Android In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 9:51 PM, wrote: > This is Paul Krill, a reporter for InfoWorld. What is the deal with > OpenJDK on Android? I take it there is no version of OpenJDK for Android > now. What would be the benefit? > Huh? Run the thousands of Pure-Java apps out there without "converting" them to Android apps?. For an Infoworld reporter, you seem to lack the understanding of cross-platform Java bytecode apps (compiled Java SE apps) with Android apps, which, while written in the Java language, run only on Android. What Google has done with Android is break the 3 advantages of Java, and restrict it to being only a programming language. Java is actually three things: -A programming language -A runtime environment (JVM) -A level playing field software ecosystem. Android as an OS uses Java only as #1 out of 3. Apps written "for Android" run only ON ANDROID, as they require the Dvlik VM and associated APIs. In effect, what Google did with Java and Davlik was "embrace and extend" just like Microsoft tried to do with "Microsoft Java" in the 1990s. FC From aph at redhat.com Wed Nov 14 09:21:21 2012 From: aph at redhat.com (Andrew Haley) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:21:21 +0000 Subject: OpenJDK on Android In-Reply-To: References: <563563295.130507.1352827266529.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> Message-ID: <50A36291.8010008@redhat.com> On 11/13/2012 10:03 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > There are pretty good ARM ports of OpenJDK already, so what?s missing?. > What prevents someone from building "OpenJDK for Android/ARM" and offering > it for download so that those who want to run Java SE apps atop Android can > do it?. I don't know of any technical reason. I don't know that anyone has tried. Andrew. From neugens.limasoftware at gmail.com Wed Nov 14 10:57:50 2012 From: neugens.limasoftware at gmail.com (Mario Torre) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:57:50 +0100 Subject: OpenJDK on Android In-Reply-To: <50A36291.8010008@redhat.com> References: <563563295.130507.1352827266529.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> <50A36291.8010008@redhat.com> Message-ID: In fact, it's not even that difficult. Android is basically Linux, you would need to replace the graphics stack (Cacio to the rescue!) and do some minor fix here and there. Last year at FOSDEM Xerxes Randby demoed NetBeans on a Nokia phone, I would expect an Android port to be very similar. For this to work, you likely need a rooted device though. An alternative would be to add Swing support to the core Android, you should be able to reuse most of the OpenJDK or Classpath code for that (I did something similar once, it's not so much work as it seems), and this is the approach taken by most companies to offer Java ME compatibility. Finally, you can do something like our WebJDK (part of Caciocavallo again), and render stuff into an HTML 5 container (we tested this on Android 2.2, so any new Android is far better). To be honest, the likely reason nobody tried those things *for real* is that I don't think it really makes much sense to run desktop applications on such small devices (even if they are actually capable of doing so). The embedded world is full of custom solutions and those will keep existing for year, in my eyes those are the ones that would benefit for such a port to exist, but it's usually all about specialized applications that run in very specific and controlled environments. Those are mostly covered already (embedded Linux, Maemo, and so on, but also Window CE and QNX, VXWorks, OS9, just to name a few, there is really no lack of Hardware and Software, and they cost less than an Android phone) and probably moving those programs (even if they could work directly) is usually very expensive (beside, there may be support issues here, which is at times more important than the flexibility to chose the Hardware/Software platform). Writing full applications for Android (or iOS for that matter) is usually a simpler task than doing a port of existing code, and perform better, and now JavaFX is coming to a maturity, so also supporting this as a new cross platform Toolkit is an option. Probably this situation is going to change with ARM64 approaching, then I see a scenario where the remote app with local HTML 5 rendering is in a very good position, but so far it seems nobody is really interested in investing any money to make those port a reality. Overall, I'm not an analyst so what I wrote may be completely untrue, but I guess this kind of things are really dedicated to a very small niche market. This is a possible explanation of the "why nobody is doing it" question you asked, but again, I may be completely off here :) Cheers, Mario 2012/11/14 Andrew Haley > On 11/13/2012 10:03 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > There are pretty good ARM ports of OpenJDK already, so what?s missing?. > > What prevents someone from building "OpenJDK for Android/ARM" and > offering > > it for download so that those who want to run Java SE apps atop Android > can > > do it?. > > I don't know of any technical reason. I don't know that anyone > has tried. > > Andrew. > > -- pgp key: http://subkeys.pgp.net/ PGP Key ID: 80F240CF Fingerprint: BA39 9666 94EC 8B73 27FA FC7C 4086 63E3 80F2 40CF IcedRobot: www.icedrobot.org Proud GNU Classpath developer: http://www.classpath.org/ Read About us at: http://planet.classpath.org OpenJDK: http://openjdk.java.net/projects/caciocavallo/ Please, support open standards: http://endsoftpatents.org/ From Alan.Bateman at oracle.com Wed Nov 14 11:16:34 2012 From: Alan.Bateman at oracle.com (Alan Bateman) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:16:34 +0000 Subject: JAXP Patches In-Reply-To: <133300952.138218.1352827953006.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> References: <133300952.138218.1352827953006.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> Message-ID: <50A37D92.2080808@oracle.com> On 13/11/2012 17:32, Andrew Hughes wrote: > We've had a fix submitted for JAXP: http://icedtea.classpath.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1210 > > How do we go about getting this upstream? I'm aware there is some upstream of OpenJDK for this. The download bundles are history and changes to JAXP are pushed to the jaxp repo now. There isn't a list specifically for JAXP here but code reviews to date have been done on the core-libs-dev so I'd suggest bringing the patch there. -Alan From fcassia at gmail.com Wed Nov 14 11:51:24 2012 From: fcassia at gmail.com (Fernando Cassia) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 08:51:24 -0300 Subject: OpenJDK on Android In-Reply-To: References: <563563295.130507.1352827266529.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> <50A36291.8010008@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Mario Torre wrote: > To be honest, the likely reason nobody tried those things *for real* is > that I don't think it really makes much sense to run desktop applications > on such small devices (even if they are actually capable of doing so). Android only on phones? Two years ago perhaps. Today, Android is increasingly on large-screen TVs... http://goo.gl/iWx0z If you ask me, the right way to disrupt Google?s disruption of the Java ecosystem (pardon the redundancy) is to build the whole Android APIs atop the JVM... I wish this project had more momentum... http://www.icedrobot.org/ --- IcedRobot is an attempt to bring the Android API on Linux Desktop. (...) 2. Avoid Dalvik and Harmony as much as possible and put the Android stack on top of the OpenJDK class library, and run the whole thing in Hotspot (this is cool, ins?t it?). --- But wtf do I know. ;-) FC From neugens.limasoftware at gmail.com Wed Nov 14 12:22:56 2012 From: neugens.limasoftware at gmail.com (Mario Torre) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:22:56 +0100 Subject: OpenJDK on Android In-Reply-To: References: <563563295.130507.1352827266529.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> <50A36291.8010008@redhat.com> Message-ID: Eh, I wish we had some more developers than just myself :) Daneel, the Dalvik-to-Java converter is basically done, though, it works quite well (that was a different story than the rest of the project, it was all quite fast and got lots of contributions). For the rest I did quite some good things, but really, this is not a one man job, the API is huge, and it requires lots of low level work, especially for the Insets stuff. It's fun thing to work on, though, perhaps when I either get some spare time (or my manager manages to propose the new 48hours day ISO standard! :) *or* we get more people interested, I could reboot it, I'm always interested in this project. Cheers, Mario 2012/11/14 Fernando Cassia > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Mario Torre < > neugens.limasoftware at gmail.com> wrote: > >> To be honest, the likely reason nobody tried those things *for real* is >> that I don't think it really makes much sense to run desktop applications >> on such small devices (even if they are actually capable of doing so). > > > Android only on phones? Two years ago perhaps. > Today, Android is increasingly on large-screen TVs... > http://goo.gl/iWx0z > > If you ask me, the right way to disrupt Google?s disruption of the Java > ecosystem (pardon the redundancy) is to build the whole Android APIs atop > the JVM... > > I wish this project had more momentum... > > http://www.icedrobot.org/ > > --- > > IcedRobot is an attempt to bring the Android API on Linux Desktop. > (...) > 2. Avoid Dalvik and Harmony as much as possible and put the Android stack > on top of the OpenJDK class library, and run the whole thing in Hotspot > (this is cool, ins?t it?). > --- > > But wtf do I know. ;-) > > FC > > -- pgp key: http://subkeys.pgp.net/ PGP Key ID: 80F240CF Fingerprint: BA39 9666 94EC 8B73 27FA FC7C 4086 63E3 80F2 40CF IcedRobot: www.icedrobot.org Proud GNU Classpath developer: http://www.classpath.org/ Read About us at: http://planet.classpath.org OpenJDK: http://openjdk.java.net/projects/caciocavallo/ Please, support open standards: http://endsoftpatents.org/ From aph at redhat.com Wed Nov 14 13:34:42 2012 From: aph at redhat.com (Andrew Haley) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:34:42 +0000 Subject: OpenJDK on Android In-Reply-To: References: <563563295.130507.1352827266529.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> <50A36291.8010008@redhat.com> Message-ID: <50A39DF2.7020601@redhat.com> On 11/14/2012 11:51 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Mario Torre > wrote: > >> To be honest, the likely reason nobody tried those things *for real* is >> that I don't think it really makes much sense to run desktop applications >> on such small devices (even if they are actually capable of doing so). > > > Android only on phones? Two years ago perhaps. > Today, Android is increasingly on large-screen TVs... > http://goo.gl/iWx0z > > If you ask me, the right way to disrupt Google?s disruption of the Java > ecosystem (pardon the redundancy) is to build the whole Android APIs atop > the JVM... Well, that's excellent. Are you going to start work on it? Andrew. From neugens.limasoftware at gmail.com Thu Nov 15 09:21:36 2012 From: neugens.limasoftware at gmail.com (Mario Torre) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 10:21:36 +0100 Subject: OpenJDK on Android In-Reply-To: References: <563563295.130507.1352827266529.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> <50A36291.8010008@redhat.com> Message-ID: 2012/11/14 Mario Torre > especially for the Insets stuff. > ^^^^^^^^^ That meant to be "Intents" [1] obviously :) Cheers, Mario [1] http://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/Intent.html -- pgp key: http://subkeys.pgp.net/ PGP Key ID: 80F240CF Fingerprint: BA39 9666 94EC 8B73 27FA FC7C 4086 63E3 80F2 40CF IcedRobot: www.icedrobot.org Proud GNU Classpath developer: http://www.classpath.org/ Read About us at: http://planet.classpath.org OpenJDK: http://openjdk.java.net/projects/caciocavallo/ Please, support open standards: http://endsoftpatents.org/ From ChrisPhi at LGonQn.Org Thu Nov 22 19:46:29 2012 From: ChrisPhi at LGonQn.Org (Chris Phillips @ T O) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:46:29 -0500 Subject: CFV: New Project: Nashorn In-Reply-To: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> References: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> Message-ID: <50AE8115.6020400@LGonQn.Org> Vote: Yes Chris From Alan.Bateman at oracle.com Thu Nov 22 20:04:45 2012 From: Alan.Bateman at oracle.com (Alan Bateman) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 20:04:45 +0000 Subject: CFV: New Project: Nashorn In-Reply-To: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> References: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> Message-ID: <50AE855D.6090600@oracle.com> Vote: yes From jonathan.gibbons at oracle.com Thu Nov 22 20:12:01 2012 From: jonathan.gibbons at oracle.com (Jonathan Gibbons) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 12:12:01 -0800 Subject: CFV: New Project: Nashorn In-Reply-To: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> References: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> Message-ID: <50AE8711.4080809@oracle.com> Vote: yes From mandy.chung at oracle.com Thu Nov 22 20:24:10 2012 From: mandy.chung at oracle.com (Mandy Chung) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 12:24:10 -0800 Subject: CFV: New Project: Nashorn In-Reply-To: <50AE855D.6090600@oracle.com> References: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> <50AE855D.6090600@oracle.com> Message-ID: <50AE89EA.1000605@oracle.com> Vote: yes From david.holmes at oracle.com Thu Nov 22 21:38:14 2012 From: david.holmes at oracle.com (David Holmes) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 07:38:14 +1000 Subject: CFV: New Project: Nashorn In-Reply-To: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> References: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> Message-ID: <50AE9B46.2050102@oracle.com> Vote: yes David On 22/11/2012 9:58 AM, John Coomes wrote: > I hereby propose the creation of the Nashorn Project with Jim Laskey > as the Lead and HotSpot group as the sponsoring Group. > > In accordance with the OpenJDK guidelines [1], we would like to start > a new project to implement a lightweight high-performance JavaScript > runtime in Java with a native JVM. This project intends to enable > Java developers to embed JavaScript in Java applications via JSR-223 > [2] and to develop free standing JavaScript applications using the > jrunscript command line tool [2]. > > This project is designed to take full advantage of newer technologies > in a native JVM, made since the original development of JVM based > JavaScript started in 1997 by Netscape [3] and maintained by > Mozilla [4]. This project will be an entirely new code base, focused > on these newer technologies. In particular the project will utilize > the MethodHandles and InvokeDynamic APIs described in JSR-292 [5]. > The goal is to provide a lightweight high performance JavaScript > on a native JVM. > > The scope of this project will include, but is not limited to, a > parser API for scanning JavaScript source code, a compiler to convert > ASTs from the parser to JVM byte code, and a runtime to support the > execution of said generated byte code. Execution of JavaScript in > this environment will be in conformance with ECMA-262 Edition 5.1 [6] > and will adapt to newer guidelines as standards evolve. > > The initial source of this project will come from an Oracle internal > project, which will wholly migrate to the OpenJDK repositories. This > source base fully passes (100%) ECMAScript test262. The current > status of this project is that further work needs to be done on > performance and hardening before it can be considered ready for > general use. > > To ensure the broadest possible collaboration between potential > contributors the project will maintain one or more new OpenJDK code > repositories and a developers' mailing list. > > The HotSpot group[7] will sponsor this project. Jim Laskey will be > the initial Lead; the initial Committers and Authors are still being > determined. (Reviewers are not needed as the project will not require > formal change review.) > > Jim Laskey is the Multi-language lead at Oracle. He has been developing > compilers and runtimes since the mid 1970s; contributor to APLUM (CDC) and > Pascal 2 (CDC), chief architect of the Prograph [8] programming language, > developer on Symantec's [9] Java symcjit.dll, ported Hotspot to > PowerPC at Apple, developer on LLVM [10] at Apple [11], Hotspot engineer at > Azul [12] and developer on the JavaFX script [13] compiler at Oracle [14]. > > Votes are due by midnight December 6, 2012 UTC [15]. > > Only current OpenJDK Members [16] are eligible to vote on this motion. > Votes must be cast in the open by replying to this mailing list. > > For Lazy Consensus voting instructions, see [17]. > > Regards, > > Jim Laskey > John Coomes, OpenJDK HotSpot Group Lead > > [1]http://openjdk.java.net/projects/#new-project > [2] http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=223 > [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhino_(JavaScript_engine) > [4] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Rhino > [5] http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=292 > [6] http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-262.htm > [7]http://openjdk.java.net/census#hotspot > [8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prograph > [9] http://www.symantec.com/index.jsp > [10] http://llvm.org > [11] http://www.apple.com > [12] http://www.azulsystems.com > [13] http://docs.oracle.com/javafx/1.3/tutorials/core/ > [14] http://www.oracle.com/index.html > [15] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=CFV%3A+New+Project%3A+Nashorn&iso=20121206T00 > [16] http://openjdk.java.net/census#members > [17] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/#new-project-vote From roman at kennke.org Thu Nov 22 21:40:48 2012 From: roman at kennke.org (Roman Kennke) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 22:40:48 +0100 Subject: CFV: New Project: Nashorn In-Reply-To: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> References: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> Message-ID: <1353620448.11230.23.camel@mercury> Vote: yes Roman Am Mittwoch, den 21.11.2012, 15:58 -0800 schrieb John Coomes: > I hereby propose the creation of the Nashorn Project with Jim Laskey > as the Lead and HotSpot group as the sponsoring Group. > > In accordance with the OpenJDK guidelines [1], we would like to start > a new project to implement a lightweight high-performance JavaScript > runtime in Java with a native JVM. This project intends to enable > Java developers to embed JavaScript in Java applications via JSR-223 > [2] and to develop free standing JavaScript applications using the > jrunscript command line tool [2]. > > This project is designed to take full advantage of newer technologies > in a native JVM, made since the original development of JVM based > JavaScript started in 1997 by Netscape [3] and maintained by > Mozilla [4]. This project will be an entirely new code base, focused > on these newer technologies. In particular the project will utilize > the MethodHandles and InvokeDynamic APIs described in JSR-292 [5]. > The goal is to provide a lightweight high performance JavaScript > on a native JVM. > > The scope of this project will include, but is not limited to, a > parser API for scanning JavaScript source code, a compiler to convert > ASTs from the parser to JVM byte code, and a runtime to support the > execution of said generated byte code. Execution of JavaScript in > this environment will be in conformance with ECMA-262 Edition 5.1 [6] > and will adapt to newer guidelines as standards evolve. > > The initial source of this project will come from an Oracle internal > project, which will wholly migrate to the OpenJDK repositories. This > source base fully passes (100%) ECMAScript test262. The current > status of this project is that further work needs to be done on > performance and hardening before it can be considered ready for > general use. > > To ensure the broadest possible collaboration between potential > contributors the project will maintain one or more new OpenJDK code > repositories and a developers' mailing list. > > The HotSpot group[7] will sponsor this project. Jim Laskey will be > the initial Lead; the initial Committers and Authors are still being > determined. (Reviewers are not needed as the project will not require > formal change review.) > > Jim Laskey is the Multi-language lead at Oracle. He has been developing > compilers and runtimes since the mid 1970s; contributor to APLUM (CDC) and > Pascal 2 (CDC), chief architect of the Prograph [8] programming language, > developer on Symantec's [9] Java symcjit.dll, ported Hotspot to > PowerPC at Apple, developer on LLVM [10] at Apple [11], Hotspot engineer at > Azul [12] and developer on the JavaFX script [13] compiler at Oracle [14]. > > Votes are due by midnight December 6, 2012 UTC [15]. > > Only current OpenJDK Members [16] are eligible to vote on this motion. > Votes must be cast in the open by replying to this mailing list. > > For Lazy Consensus voting instructions, see [17]. > > Regards, > > Jim Laskey > John Coomes, OpenJDK HotSpot Group Lead > > [1]http://openjdk.java.net/projects/#new-project > [2] http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=223 > [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhino_(JavaScript_engine) > [4] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Rhino > [5] http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=292 > [6] http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-262.htm > [7]http://openjdk.java.net/census#hotspot > [8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prograph > [9] http://www.symantec.com/index.jsp > [10] http://llvm.org > [11] http://www.apple.com > [12] http://www.azulsystems.com > [13] http://docs.oracle.com/javafx/1.3/tutorials/core/ > [14] http://www.oracle.com/index.html > [15] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=CFV%3A+New+Project%3A+Nashorn&iso=20121206T00 > [16] http://openjdk.java.net/census#members > [17] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/#new-project-vote > From laurent.daynes at oracle.com Thu Nov 22 22:29:25 2012 From: laurent.daynes at oracle.com (Laurent Daynes) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 23:29:25 +0100 Subject: CFV: New Project: Nashorn In-Reply-To: <50AE8115.6020400@LGonQn.Org> References: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> <50AE8115.6020400@LGonQn.Org> Message-ID: <50AEA745.8090901@oracle.com> Vote: Yes Laurent From neugens.limasoftware at gmail.com Thu Nov 22 23:09:16 2012 From: neugens.limasoftware at gmail.com (Mario Torre) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 00:09:16 +0100 Subject: CFV: New Project: Nashorn In-Reply-To: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> References: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> Message-ID: Vote: Yes, And congrats! Mario 2012/11/22 John Coomes : > I hereby propose the creation of the Nashorn Project with Jim Laskey > as the Lead and HotSpot group as the sponsoring Group. > > In accordance with the OpenJDK guidelines [1], we would like to start > a new project to implement a lightweight high-performance JavaScript > runtime in Java with a native JVM. This project intends to enable > Java developers to embed JavaScript in Java applications via JSR-223 > [2] and to develop free standing JavaScript applications using the > jrunscript command line tool [2]. > > This project is designed to take full advantage of newer technologies > in a native JVM, made since the original development of JVM based > JavaScript started in 1997 by Netscape [3] and maintained by > Mozilla [4]. This project will be an entirely new code base, focused > on these newer technologies. In particular the project will utilize > the MethodHandles and InvokeDynamic APIs described in JSR-292 [5]. > The goal is to provide a lightweight high performance JavaScript > on a native JVM. > > The scope of this project will include, but is not limited to, a > parser API for scanning JavaScript source code, a compiler to convert > ASTs from the parser to JVM byte code, and a runtime to support the > execution of said generated byte code. Execution of JavaScript in > this environment will be in conformance with ECMA-262 Edition 5.1 [6] > and will adapt to newer guidelines as standards evolve. > > The initial source of this project will come from an Oracle internal > project, which will wholly migrate to the OpenJDK repositories. This > source base fully passes (100%) ECMAScript test262. The current > status of this project is that further work needs to be done on > performance and hardening before it can be considered ready for > general use. > > To ensure the broadest possible collaboration between potential > contributors the project will maintain one or more new OpenJDK code > repositories and a developers' mailing list. > > The HotSpot group[7] will sponsor this project. Jim Laskey will be > the initial Lead; the initial Committers and Authors are still being > determined. (Reviewers are not needed as the project will not require > formal change review.) > > Jim Laskey is the Multi-language lead at Oracle. He has been developing > compilers and runtimes since the mid 1970s; contributor to APLUM (CDC) and > Pascal 2 (CDC), chief architect of the Prograph [8] programming language, > developer on Symantec's [9] Java symcjit.dll, ported Hotspot to > PowerPC at Apple, developer on LLVM [10] at Apple [11], Hotspot engineer at > Azul [12] and developer on the JavaFX script [13] compiler at Oracle [14]. > > Votes are due by midnight December 6, 2012 UTC [15]. > > Only current OpenJDK Members [16] are eligible to vote on this motion. > Votes must be cast in the open by replying to this mailing list. > > For Lazy Consensus voting instructions, see [17]. > > Regards, > > Jim Laskey > John Coomes, OpenJDK HotSpot Group Lead > > [1]http://openjdk.java.net/projects/#new-project > [2] http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=223 > [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhino_(JavaScript_engine) > [4] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Rhino > [5] http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=292 > [6] http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-262.htm > [7]http://openjdk.java.net/census#hotspot > [8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prograph > [9] http://www.symantec.com/index.jsp > [10] http://llvm.org > [11] http://www.apple.com > [12] http://www.azulsystems.com > [13] http://docs.oracle.com/javafx/1.3/tutorials/core/ > [14] http://www.oracle.com/index.html > [15] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=CFV%3A+New+Project%3A+Nashorn&iso=20121206T00 > [16] http://openjdk.java.net/census#members > [17] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/#new-project-vote -- pgp key: http://subkeys.pgp.net/ PGP Key ID: 80F240CF Fingerprint: BA39 9666 94EC 8B73 27FA FC7C 4086 63E3 80F2 40CF IcedRobot: www.icedrobot.org Proud GNU Classpath developer: http://www.classpath.org/ Read About us at: http://planet.classpath.org OpenJDK: http://openjdk.java.net/projects/caciocavallo/ Please, support open standards: http://endsoftpatents.org/ From artem.ananiev at oracle.com Fri Nov 23 07:41:16 2012 From: artem.ananiev at oracle.com (Artem Ananiev) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 11:41:16 +0400 Subject: CFV: New Project: Nashorn In-Reply-To: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> References: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> Message-ID: <50AF289C.3020402@oracle.com> Vote: yes. Artem On 11/22/2012 3:58 AM, John Coomes wrote: > I hereby propose the creation of the Nashorn Project with Jim Laskey > as the Lead and HotSpot group as the sponsoring Group. > > In accordance with the OpenJDK guidelines [1], we would like to start > a new project to implement a lightweight high-performance JavaScript > runtime in Java with a native JVM. This project intends to enable > Java developers to embed JavaScript in Java applications via JSR-223 > [2] and to develop free standing JavaScript applications using the > jrunscript command line tool [2]. > > This project is designed to take full advantage of newer technologies > in a native JVM, made since the original development of JVM based > JavaScript started in 1997 by Netscape [3] and maintained by > Mozilla [4]. This project will be an entirely new code base, focused > on these newer technologies. In particular the project will utilize > the MethodHandles and InvokeDynamic APIs described in JSR-292 [5]. > The goal is to provide a lightweight high performance JavaScript > on a native JVM. > > The scope of this project will include, but is not limited to, a > parser API for scanning JavaScript source code, a compiler to convert > ASTs from the parser to JVM byte code, and a runtime to support the > execution of said generated byte code. Execution of JavaScript in > this environment will be in conformance with ECMA-262 Edition 5.1 [6] > and will adapt to newer guidelines as standards evolve. > > The initial source of this project will come from an Oracle internal > project, which will wholly migrate to the OpenJDK repositories. This > source base fully passes (100%) ECMAScript test262. The current > status of this project is that further work needs to be done on > performance and hardening before it can be considered ready for > general use. > > To ensure the broadest possible collaboration between potential > contributors the project will maintain one or more new OpenJDK code > repositories and a developers' mailing list. > > The HotSpot group[7] will sponsor this project. Jim Laskey will be > the initial Lead; the initial Committers and Authors are still being > determined. (Reviewers are not needed as the project will not require > formal change review.) > > Jim Laskey is the Multi-language lead at Oracle. He has been developing > compilers and runtimes since the mid 1970s; contributor to APLUM (CDC) and > Pascal 2 (CDC), chief architect of the Prograph [8] programming language, > developer on Symantec's [9] Java symcjit.dll, ported Hotspot to > PowerPC at Apple, developer on LLVM [10] at Apple [11], Hotspot engineer at > Azul [12] and developer on the JavaFX script [13] compiler at Oracle [14]. > > Votes are due by midnight December 6, 2012 UTC [15]. > > Only current OpenJDK Members [16] are eligible to vote on this motion. > Votes must be cast in the open by replying to this mailing list. > > For Lazy Consensus voting instructions, see [17]. > > Regards, > > Jim Laskey > John Coomes, OpenJDK HotSpot Group Lead > > [1]http://openjdk.java.net/projects/#new-project > [2] http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=223 > [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhino_(JavaScript_engine) > [4] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Rhino > [5] http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=292 > [6] http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-262.htm > [7]http://openjdk.java.net/census#hotspot > [8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prograph > [9] http://www.symantec.com/index.jsp > [10] http://llvm.org > [11] http://www.apple.com > [12] http://www.azulsystems.com > [13] http://docs.oracle.com/javafx/1.3/tutorials/core/ > [14] http://www.oracle.com/index.html > [15] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=CFV%3A+New+Project%3A+Nashorn&iso=20121206T00 > [16] http://openjdk.java.net/census#members > [17] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/#new-project-vote > From aph at redhat.com Fri Nov 23 09:18:55 2012 From: aph at redhat.com (Andrew Haley) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 09:18:55 +0000 Subject: CFV: New Project: Nashorn In-Reply-To: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> References: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> Message-ID: <50AF3F7F.40203@redhat.com> Vote: yes From fweimer at redhat.com Fri Nov 23 14:01:00 2012 From: fweimer at redhat.com (Florian Weimer) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 15:01:00 +0100 Subject: Editing JDK test cases using Eclipse Message-ID: <50AF819C.1020002@redhat.com> Is there a trick how to edit JDK test cases efficiently using Eclipse, one at a time? I don't want to import the entire tree of tests into Eclipse (the JDK sources are large enough as-is), and creating a separate Eclipse project for each test directory is a bit cumbersome. -- Florian Weimer / Red Hat Product Security Team From mark.reinhold at oracle.com Fri Nov 23 17:34:56 2012 From: mark.reinhold at oracle.com (mark.reinhold at oracle.com) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 09:34:56 -0800 Subject: CFV: New Project: Nashorn In-Reply-To: john.coomes@oracle.com; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:58:11 PST; <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> Message-ID: <20121123173456.19FA1114D@eggemoggin.niobe.net> Vote: Yes - Mark From dalibor.topic at oracle.com Fri Nov 23 21:05:18 2012 From: dalibor.topic at oracle.com (Dalibor Topic) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 22:05:18 +0100 Subject: CFV: New Project: Nashorn In-Reply-To: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> References: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> Message-ID: <50AFE50E.7030505@oracle.com> Vote: Yes. -- Oracle Dalibor Topic | Principal Product Manager Phone: +494089091214 | Mobile: +491737185961 Oracle Java Platform Group ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. 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Hertogswetering 163/167, 3543 AS Utrecht, Niederlande Handelsregister der Handelskammer Midden-Niederlande, Nr. 30143697 Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Alexander van der Ven, Astrid Kepper, Val Maher Green Oracle Oracle is committed to developing practices and products that help protect the environment From karen.kinnear at oracle.com Mon Nov 26 16:01:34 2012 From: karen.kinnear at oracle.com (Karen Kinnear) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 11:01:34 -0500 Subject: CFV: New Project: Nashorn In-Reply-To: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> References: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> Message-ID: Vote: yes thanks, Karen On Nov 21, 2012, at 6:58 PM, John Coomes wrote: > I hereby propose the creation of the Nashorn Project with Jim Laskey > as the Lead and HotSpot group as the sponsoring Group. > > In accordance with the OpenJDK guidelines [1], we would like to start > a new project to implement a lightweight high-performance JavaScript > runtime in Java with a native JVM. This project intends to enable > Java developers to embed JavaScript in Java applications via JSR-223 > [2] and to develop free standing JavaScript applications using the > jrunscript command line tool [2]. > > This project is designed to take full advantage of newer technologies > in a native JVM, made since the original development of JVM based > JavaScript started in 1997 by Netscape [3] and maintained by > Mozilla [4]. This project will be an entirely new code base, focused > on these newer technologies. In particular the project will utilize > the MethodHandles and InvokeDynamic APIs described in JSR-292 [5]. > The goal is to provide a lightweight high performance JavaScript > on a native JVM. > > The scope of this project will include, but is not limited to, a > parser API for scanning JavaScript source code, a compiler to convert > ASTs from the parser to JVM byte code, and a runtime to support the > execution of said generated byte code. Execution of JavaScript in > this environment will be in conformance with ECMA-262 Edition 5.1 [6] > and will adapt to newer guidelines as standards evolve. > > The initial source of this project will come from an Oracle internal > project, which will wholly migrate to the OpenJDK repositories. This > source base fully passes (100%) ECMAScript test262. The current > status of this project is that further work needs to be done on > performance and hardening before it can be considered ready for > general use. > > To ensure the broadest possible collaboration between potential > contributors the project will maintain one or more new OpenJDK code > repositories and a developers' mailing list. > > The HotSpot group[7] will sponsor this project. Jim Laskey will be > the initial Lead; the initial Committers and Authors are still being > determined. (Reviewers are not needed as the project will not require > formal change review.) > > Jim Laskey is the Multi-language lead at Oracle. He has been developing > compilers and runtimes since the mid 1970s; contributor to APLUM (CDC) and > Pascal 2 (CDC), chief architect of the Prograph [8] programming language, > developer on Symantec's [9] Java symcjit.dll, ported Hotspot to > PowerPC at Apple, developer on LLVM [10] at Apple [11], Hotspot engineer at > Azul [12] and developer on the JavaFX script [13] compiler at Oracle [14]. > > Votes are due by midnight December 6, 2012 UTC [15]. > > Only current OpenJDK Members [16] are eligible to vote on this motion. > Votes must be cast in the open by replying to this mailing list. > > For Lazy Consensus voting instructions, see [17]. > > Regards, > > Jim Laskey > John Coomes, OpenJDK HotSpot Group Lead > > [1]http://openjdk.java.net/projects/#new-project > [2] http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=223 > [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhino_(JavaScript_engine) > [4] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Rhino > [5] http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=292 > [6] http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-262.htm > [7]http://openjdk.java.net/census#hotspot > [8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prograph > [9] http://www.symantec.com/index.jsp > [10] http://llvm.org > [11] http://www.apple.com > [12] http://www.azulsystems.com > [13] http://docs.oracle.com/javafx/1.3/tutorials/core/ > [14] http://www.oracle.com/index.html > [15] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=CFV%3A+New+Project%3A+Nashorn&iso=20121206T00 > [16] http://openjdk.java.net/census#members > [17] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/#new-project-vote From iris.clark at oracle.com Mon Nov 26 18:13:10 2012 From: iris.clark at oracle.com (Iris Clark) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:13:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: CFV: New Project: Nashorn In-Reply-To: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> References: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> Message-ID: <0ab439c7-f96a-4a4e-90c2-539f7a125f3f@default> Vote: Yes iris From behrangsa at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 01:10:50 2012 From: behrangsa at gmail.com (Behrang Saeedzadeh) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 12:10:50 +1100 Subject: CFV: New Project: Nashorn In-Reply-To: <0ab439c7-f96a-4a4e-90c2-539f7a125f3f@default> References: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> <0ab439c7-f96a-4a4e-90c2-539f7a125f3f@default> Message-ID: Just one question: any plans to fix the "Maximum method size is too small (64Kb)" bug first? http://bugs.sun.com/view_bug.do?bug_id=4262078 Cheers, Behrang Saeedzadeh http://www.behrang.org On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 5:13 AM, Iris Clark wrote: > > Vote: Yes > > iris From fcassia at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 02:06:02 2012 From: fcassia at gmail.com (Fernando Cassia) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:06:02 -0300 Subject: OpenJDK on Android In-Reply-To: References: <563563295.130507.1352827266529.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> <50A36291.8010008@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Mario Torre wrote: > It's fun thing to work on, though, perhaps when I either get some spare > time (or my manager manages to propose the new 48hours day ISO standard! :) > *or* we get more people interested, I could reboot it, I'm always > interested in this project. > > Cheers, > And so Infoworld?s Paul Krill, who lurks on this list, used this thread to write this FUD piece. http://www.infoworld.com/d/application-development/open-source-java-android-dont-bet-it-207457?page=0,1 I guess there?s an unwritten rule in IT journalism these days where one if barred from saying anything positive about Java and OpenJDK these days that doesn?t fit the "Google will rule the world, Oracle and Java, bad" myopic point of view. Surely reads like a mix of wishful thinking and self-fulfilling prophecy... discourage anyone even toying with the idea from actually doing it... FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act - George Orwell From james.holmlund at oracle.com Tue Nov 27 02:32:53 2012 From: james.holmlund at oracle.com (Jim Holmlund) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:32:53 -0800 Subject: CFV: New Project: Nashorn In-Reply-To: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> References: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> Message-ID: <50B42655.2000707@oracle.com> Vote: yes On 11/21/2012 3:58 PM, John Coomes wrote: > I hereby propose the creation of the Nashorn Project with Jim Laskey > as the Lead and HotSpot group as the sponsoring Group. > > In accordance with the OpenJDK guidelines [1], we would like to start > a new project to implement a lightweight high-performance JavaScript > runtime in Java with a native JVM. This project intends to enable > Java developers to embed JavaScript in Java applications via JSR-223 > [2] and to develop free standing JavaScript applications using the > jrunscript command line tool [2]. > > This project is designed to take full advantage of newer technologies > in a native JVM, made since the original development of JVM based > JavaScript started in 1997 by Netscape [3] and maintained by > Mozilla [4]. This project will be an entirely new code base, focused > on these newer technologies. In particular the project will utilize > the MethodHandles and InvokeDynamic APIs described in JSR-292 [5]. > The goal is to provide a lightweight high performance JavaScript > on a native JVM. > > The scope of this project will include, but is not limited to, a > parser API for scanning JavaScript source code, a compiler to convert > ASTs from the parser to JVM byte code, and a runtime to support the > execution of said generated byte code. Execution of JavaScript in > this environment will be in conformance with ECMA-262 Edition 5.1 [6] > and will adapt to newer guidelines as standards evolve. > > The initial source of this project will come from an Oracle internal > project, which will wholly migrate to the OpenJDK repositories. This > source base fully passes (100%) ECMAScript test262. The current > status of this project is that further work needs to be done on > performance and hardening before it can be considered ready for > general use. > > To ensure the broadest possible collaboration between potential > contributors the project will maintain one or more new OpenJDK code > repositories and a developers' mailing list. > > The HotSpot group[7] will sponsor this project. Jim Laskey will be > the initial Lead; the initial Committers and Authors are still being > determined. (Reviewers are not needed as the project will not require > formal change review.) > > Jim Laskey is the Multi-language lead at Oracle. He has been developing > compilers and runtimes since the mid 1970s; contributor to APLUM (CDC) and > Pascal 2 (CDC), chief architect of the Prograph [8] programming language, > developer on Symantec's [9] Java symcjit.dll, ported Hotspot to > PowerPC at Apple, developer on LLVM [10] at Apple [11], Hotspot engineer at > Azul [12] and developer on the JavaFX script [13] compiler at Oracle [14]. > > Votes are due by midnight December 6, 2012 UTC [15]. > > Only current OpenJDK Members [16] are eligible to vote on this motion. > Votes must be cast in the open by replying to this mailing list. > > For Lazy Consensus voting instructions, see [17]. > > Regards, > > Jim Laskey > John Coomes, OpenJDK HotSpot Group Lead > > [1]http://openjdk.java.net/projects/#new-project > [2] http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=223 > [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhino_(JavaScript_engine) > [4] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Rhino > [5] http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=292 > [6] http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-262.htm > [7]http://openjdk.java.net/census#hotspot > [8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prograph > [9] http://www.symantec.com/index.jsp > [10] http://llvm.org > [11] http://www.apple.com > [12] http://www.azulsystems.com > [13] http://docs.oracle.com/javafx/1.3/tutorials/core/ > [14] http://www.oracle.com/index.html > [15] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=CFV%3A+New+Project%3A+Nashorn&iso=20121206T00 > [16] http://openjdk.java.net/census#members > [17] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/#new-project-vote From forax at univ-mlv.fr Tue Nov 27 08:48:47 2012 From: forax at univ-mlv.fr (Remi Forax) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 09:48:47 +0100 Subject: CFV: New Project: Nashorn In-Reply-To: References: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> <0ab439c7-f96a-4a4e-90c2-539f7a125f3f@default> Message-ID: <50B47E6F.3030502@univ-mlv.fr> On 11/27/2012 02:10 AM, Behrang Saeedzadeh wrote: > Just one question: any plans to fix the "Maximum method size is too small > (64Kb)" bug first? http://bugs.sun.com/view_bug.do?bug_id=4262078 Not for the moment as far as I know, a lot of tools, Hotspot parser included, will need a big refresh if we create a new bytecode format. Maybe some incremental changes ... > > Cheers, > Behrang Saeedzadeh > http://www.behrang.org cheers, R?mi > > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 5:13 AM, Iris Clark wrote: >> Vote: Yes >> >> iris From john.r.rose at oracle.com Tue Nov 27 09:04:21 2012 From: john.r.rose at oracle.com (John Rose) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 01:04:21 -0800 Subject: CFV: New Project: Nashorn In-Reply-To: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> References: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> Message-ID: <8D40F7AE-7B6E-4B86-8F6E-C806114AF382@oracle.com> Vote: yes (as one of Jim's many fans) From chdh at inventec.ch Tue Nov 27 15:06:03 2012 From: chdh at inventec.ch (Christian d'Heureuse) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 16:06:03 +0100 Subject: Serious bug in XML parser still open after 4 years? Message-ID: <50B4D6DB.6030905@inventec.ch> In 2008, I have isolated and documented a serious bug in SAXParser. The bug can be easily reproduced on multiple platforms and leads to data corruption, e.g. when importing a database dump from an XML file. http://www.source-code.biz/snippets/java/saxParserError/ http://bugs.sun.com/view_bug.do?bug_id=6716312 This bug seems to be fixed in newer Xerces versions, but JDK 7 still includes Xerces 2.7.1., which dates from 2005. I looked through the descriptions of the OpenJDK mailing lists at http://mail.openjdk.java.net/mailman/listinfo, but could not find a mailing list for XML problems. What can be done to get this bug fixed? Christian www.source-code.biz From Alan.Bateman at oracle.com Tue Nov 27 15:16:23 2012 From: Alan.Bateman at oracle.com (Alan Bateman) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:16:23 +0000 Subject: Serious bug in XML parser still open after 4 years? In-Reply-To: <50B4D6DB.6030905@inventec.ch> References: <50B4D6DB.6030905@inventec.ch> Message-ID: <50B4D947.8040607@oracle.com> On 27/11/2012 15:06, Christian d'Heureuse wrote: > In 2008, I have isolated and documented a serious bug in SAXParser. The > bug can be easily reproduced on multiple platforms and leads to data > corruption, e.g. when importing a database dump from an XML file. > > http://www.source-code.biz/snippets/java/saxParserError/ > > http://bugs.sun.com/view_bug.do?bug_id=6716312 > > This bug seems to be fixed in newer Xerces versions, but JDK 7 still > includes Xerces 2.7.1., which dates from 2005. > > I looked through the descriptions of the OpenJDK mailing lists at > http://mail.openjdk.java.net/mailman/listinfo, but could not find a > mailing list for XML problems. What can be done to get this bug fixed? > > Christian > www.source-code.biz There isn't a mailing list for JAXP here so I suggest to bring your patch for discussion to core-libs-dev as that is where reviews for this code have been discussed recently. -Alan From dalibor.topic at oracle.com Tue Nov 27 15:26:34 2012 From: dalibor.topic at oracle.com (Dalibor Topic) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 16:26:34 +0100 Subject: Serious bug in XML parser still open after 4 years? In-Reply-To: <50B4D947.8040607@oracle.com> References: <50B4D6DB.6030905@inventec.ch> <50B4D947.8040607@oracle.com> Message-ID: <50B4DBAA.7000309@oracle.com> On 11/27/12 4:16 PM, Alan Bateman wrote: > On 27/11/2012 15:06, Christian d'Heureuse wrote: >> In 2008, I have isolated and documented a serious bug in SAXParser. The >> bug can be easily reproduced on multiple platforms and leads to data >> corruption, e.g. when importing a database dump from an XML file. >> >> http://www.source-code.biz/snippets/java/saxParserError/ >> >> http://bugs.sun.com/view_bug.do?bug_id=6716312 >> >> This bug seems to be fixed in newer Xerces versions, but JDK 7 still >> includes Xerces 2.7.1., which dates from 2005. >> >> I looked through the descriptions of the OpenJDK mailing lists at >> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/mailman/listinfo, but could not find a >> mailing list for XML problems. What can be done to get this bug fixed? >> >> Christian >> www.source-code.biz > There isn't a mailing list for JAXP here so I suggest to bring your patch for discussion to core-libs-dev as that is where reviews for this code have been discussed recently. It may also be better to go upstream (i.e. to http://jaxp.java.net/) first, if you haven't done so yet. cheers, dalibor topic -- Oracle Dalibor Topic | Principal Product Manager Phone: +494089091214 | Mobile: +491737185961 Oracle Java Platform Group ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG | K?hneh?fe 5 | 22761 Hamburg ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG Hauptverwaltung: Riesstr. 25, D-80992 M?nchen Registergericht: Amtsgericht M?nchen, HRA 95603 Gesch?ftsf?hrer: J?rgen Kunz Komplement?rin: ORACLE Deutschland Verwaltung B.V. Hertogswetering 163/167, 3543 AS Utrecht, Niederlande Handelsregister der Handelskammer Midden-Niederlande, Nr. 30143697 Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Alexander van der Ven, Astrid Kepper, Val Maher Green Oracle Oracle is committed to developing practices and products that help protect the environment From John.Coomes at oracle.com Wed Nov 28 00:31:09 2012 From: John.Coomes at oracle.com (John Coomes) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 16:31:09 -0800 Subject: CFV: New Project: Nashorn In-Reply-To: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> References: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> Message-ID: <20661.23373.804791.731579@oracle.com> Vote: yes -John From mark.reinhold at oracle.com Wed Nov 28 16:19:27 2012 From: mark.reinhold at oracle.com (mark.reinhold at oracle.com) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 08:19:27 -0800 Subject: CFV: New Project: Nashorn In-Reply-To: john.coomes@oracle.com; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:58:11 PST; <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> Message-ID: <20121128161927.BDDB161D@eggemoggin.niobe.net> Vote: yes - Mark From dbhole at redhat.com Wed Nov 28 17:14:33 2012 From: dbhole at redhat.com (Deepak Bhole) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 12:14:33 -0500 Subject: CFV: New Project: Nashorn In-Reply-To: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> References: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> Message-ID: <20121128171433.GT31589@redhat.com> Vote: yes From leegold at operamail.com Wed Nov 28 20:01:55 2012 From: leegold at operamail.com (Lee Gold) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 13:01:55 -0700 Subject: A way for OpenJDK to make all java have larger fonts for a user? Message-ID: <1354132915.27226.140661159375813.52632481@webmail.messagingengine.com> Hi, A java jar file application I open has very small font. The java app offers no way for a user to incease font size. I wondered via openjdk there's a config file I can edit to do this? OK to affect a java globally - my laptop has hi-res screen and most java fonts need to be a bit bigger. Thanks, using Linux and openJDK 6. -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again From philip.race at oracle.com Wed Nov 28 20:22:56 2012 From: philip.race at oracle.com (Phil Race) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 12:22:56 -0800 Subject: A way for OpenJDK to make all java have larger fonts for a user? In-Reply-To: <1354132915.27226.140661159375813.52632481@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1354132915.27226.140661159375813.52632481@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <50B672A0.7020802@oracle.com> This doesn't seem like a subject for the top-level "discuss" list. But there is no config file that can help with this. if you want to pursue it further I suggest to move discussion to one of the client group lists : 2d-dev for general font issues, or swing-dev if you want to ask if there's a way to get all Swing controls to do this. -phil. On 11/28/2012 12:01 PM, Lee Gold wrote: > Hi, > > A java jar file application I open has very small font. The java app > offers no way for a user to incease font size. I wondered via openjdk > there's a config file I can edit to do this? OK to affect a java > globally - my laptop has hi-res screen and most java fonts need to be a > bit bigger. Thanks, using Linux and openJDK 6. > > From david.holmes at oracle.com Thu Nov 29 23:41:34 2012 From: david.holmes at oracle.com (David Holmes) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 09:41:34 +1000 Subject: JEPS and code changesets Message-ID: <50B7F2AE.5040906@oracle.com> What state should a JEP be in (Funded?) before any changesets associated with that JEP are pushed into a repository? Thanks, David Holmes From mark.reinhold at oracle.com Fri Nov 30 00:03:15 2012 From: mark.reinhold at oracle.com (mark.reinhold at oracle.com) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:03:15 -0800 Subject: JEPS and code changesets In-Reply-To: david.holmes@oracle.com; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 09:41:34 +1000; <50B7F2AE.5040906@oracle.com> Message-ID: <20121130000315.A99EF64E@eggemoggin.niobe.net> 2012/11/29 15:41 -0800, david.holmes at oracle.com: > What state should a JEP be in (Funded?) before any changesets associated with > that JEP are pushed into a repository? Yes, Funded. - Mark From jonathan.gibbons at oracle.com Fri Nov 30 05:35:04 2012 From: jonathan.gibbons at oracle.com (Jonathan Gibbons) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 21:35:04 -0800 Subject: CFV: New Project: Nashorn In-Reply-To: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> References: <20653.27283.981352.151308@oracle.com> Message-ID: <50B84588.5070705@oracle.com> Vote: yes