Gmail can not verify mails from oracle.com anymore.
Dalibor Topic
dalibor.topic at oracle.com
Wed Mar 9 12:17:48 UTC 2016
As we don't rely on java.net for mailing list infrastructure, I would suggest inquiring with ops at openjdk directly.
From the description you provided it sounds as if it's an issue with a third party provided service. In that case, effective options to address issues in such third party services may be in limited supply.
Cheers,
D.
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> On 09.03.2016, at 12:08, Volker Simonis <volker.simonis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Fernando,
>
> thanks for you detailed answer. Probably my initial mail should have been a
> little more specific. So here are the full details:
>
> - I'm reading and writing mails from my gmail account with the gmail web
> client (no e-mail applications, no third-party accounts).
>
> - The problems I describe (and which are new, at least for me) are with
> mails I receive from OpenJDK mailing list to which I'm subscribed.
>
> - If somebody from Oracle sends a mail directly to my gmail account,
> everything seems fine. Following you can see the mail header of such a mail:
>
> Delivered-To: volker.simonis at gmail.com
> Received: by 10.112.201.105 with SMTP id jz9csp2496735lbc;
> Wed, 9 Mar 2016 01:39:35 -0800 (PST)
> X-Received: by 10.66.233.194 with SMTP id
> ty2mr47611274pac.126.1457516375212;
> Wed, 09 Mar 2016 01:39:35 -0800 (PST)
> Return-Path: <Firstname.Lastname at oracle.com>
> Received: from userp1040.oracle.com (userp1040.oracle.com. [156.151.31.81])
> by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id
> rz3si11373065pac.2.2016.03.09.01.39.34
> for <volker.simonis at gmail.com>
> (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128);
> Wed, 09 Mar 2016 01:39:35 -0800 (PST)
>
>
>
> *Received-SPF: pass (google.com <http://google.com>: domain of
> Firstname.Lastname at oracle.com <Firstname.Lastname at oracle.com> designates
> 156.151.31.81 as permitted sender)
> client-ip=156.151.31.81;Authentication-Results: mx.google.com
> <http://mx.google.com>; spf=pass (google.com <http://google.com>:
> domain of Firstname.Lastname at oracle.com <Firstname.Lastname at oracle.com>
> designates 156.151.31.81 as permitted sender)
> smtp.mailfrom=Firstname.Lastname at oracle.com
> <Firstname.Lastname at oracle.com>*Received:
> from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74])
> by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with
> ESMTP id u299dVNF020477
> (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK);
> Wed, 9 Mar 2016 09:39:31 GMT
> Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235])
> by userv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u299dU4c013059
> (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL);
> Wed, 9 Mar 2016 09:39:31 GMT
> Received: from abhmp0001.oracle.com (abhmp0001.oracle.com [141.146.116.7])
> by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u299dUhm021174;
> Wed, 9 Mar 2016 09:39:30 GMT
> Received: from dhcp-ukc1-twvpn-1-vpnpool-10-175-170-87.vpn.oracle.com (/
> 10.175.170.87)
> by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0)
> with ESMTP ; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 01:39:30 -0800
> From: Firstname Lastname <Firstname.Lastname at oracle.com>
>
> I thing the two important line here are:
>
> Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of Firstname.Lastname at oracle.com
> designates 156.151.31.81 as permitted sender) client-ip=156.151.31.81;
> Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
> spf=pass (google.com: domain of Firstname.Lastname at oracle.com
> designates 156.151.31.81 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=
> Firstname.Lastname at oracle.com
>
>
> - If I receive a mail from the same person trough the mailing list only,
> the header looks as follows (and I get the mentioned warning):
>
> Delivered-To: volker.simonis at gmail.com
> Received: by 10.112.201.105 with SMTP id jz9csp1171678lbc;
> Wed, 2 Mar 2016 06:59:51 -0800 (PST)
> X-Received: by 10.202.102.200 with SMTP id m69mr2723348oik.74.1456930791527;
> Wed, 02 Mar 2016 06:59:51 -0800 (PST)
> Return-Path: <jigsaw-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net>
> Received: from ucsinet41.oracle.com (ucsinet41.oracle.com. [156.151.31.69])
> by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id
> v4si4909551oer.61.2016.03.02.06.59.46
> (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128);
> Wed, 02 Mar 2016 06:59:51 -0800 (PST)
>
>
> *Received-SPF: neutral (google.com <http://google.com>: 156.151.31.69 is
> neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of
> jigsaw-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net <jigsaw-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net>)
> client-ip=156.151.31.69;Authentication-Results: mx.google.com
> <http://mx.google.com>; spf=neutral (google.com <http://google.com>:
> 156.151.31.69 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for
> domain of jigsaw-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net
> <jigsaw-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net>)
> smtp.mailfrom=jigsaw-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net
> <jigsaw-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net>*
> Received: from aojmv0009 (unknown [137.254.59.6]) by ucsinet41.oracle.com
> with smtp
> id 46c1_1a8e_897bc1c1_404b_4bad_80e6_6181bbc3fd56;
> Wed, 02 Mar 2016 14:59:44 +0000
> Received: from aojmv0009.oracle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])
> by aojmv0009 (Postfix) with ESMTP id A399516FC09;
> Wed, 2 Mar 2016 14:59:39 +0000 (UTC)
> X-Original-To: jigsaw-dev at openjdk.java.net
> Delivered-To: jigsaw-dev at openjdk.java.net
> Received: from ucsinet40.oracle.com (ucsinet40.oracle.com [156.151.31.68])
> by aojmv0009 (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7D016FBF5
> for <jigsaw-dev at openjdk.java.net>; Wed, 2 Mar 2016 14:59:38 +0000 (UTC)
> Received: from userp1040.oracle.com (unknown [156.151.31.81]) by
> ucsinet40.oracle.com with smtp
> (TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384)
> id 3c57_9292_5ef7d675_aa54_43c9_88d5_42790628157b;
> Wed, 02 Mar 2016 14:59:36 +0000
> Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234])
> by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with
> ESMTP id u22Exa1Z015731
> (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK)
> for <jigsaw-dev at openjdk.java.net>; Wed, 2 Mar 2016 14:59:37 GMT
> Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75])
> by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u22ExaM8028136
> (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL)
> for <jigsaw-dev at openjdk.java.net>; Wed, 2 Mar 2016 14:59:36 GMT
> Received: from abhmp0014.oracle.com (abhmp0014.oracle.com [141.146.116.20])
> by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id u22ExaRW017456
> for <jigsaw-dev at openjdk.java.net>; Wed, 2 Mar 2016 14:59:36 GMT
> Received: from dhcp-ukc1-twvpn-2-vpnpool-10-175-198-188.vpn.oracle.com
> (/10.175.198.188) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0)
> with ESMTP ; Wed, 02 Mar 2016 06:59:35 -0800
> From: Firstname Lastname <Firstname.Lastname at oracle.com>
>
> The authentication lines are different:
>
> Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 156.151.31.69 is neither permitted nor
> denied by best guess record for domain of
> jigsaw-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net) client-ip=156.151.31.69;
> Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
> spf=neutral (google.com: 156.151.31.69 is neither permitted nor
> denied by best guess record for domain of
> jigsaw-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net) smtp.mailfrom=
> jigsaw-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net
>
> As the warnings only appear since today, I wonder if either Google is
> checking more thoroughly or if the mai/server configuration at
> openjdk.java.net was changed?
>
> Regards,
> Volker
>
>
>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Fernando Cassia <fcassia at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/9/16, Mario Torre <neugens at redhat.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Volker Simonis <volker.simonis at gmail.com
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I've subscribed to most Openjdk mailing lists from my Google mail
>>>> account (gmail.com).
>>>>
>>>> Today I noticed that all mails in my inbox which were sent from the
>>>> oracle.com domain are flagged with "Gmail couldn't verify that
>>>> oracle.com actually sent this message (and not a spammer)"
>>
>> Volker,
>>
>> It is impossible to help you with more data: do you send emails from
>> GMail using the web interface or do you have it configured to use an
>> e-mail application (Outlook, Windows Mail, Thunderbird, etc) over pop3
>> or imap protocols?
>>
>> GMail provides ways to configure third party accounts into your
>> GMail,so you can send e-mail from OTHER (non-GMail) accounts (as
>> sender) using your GMail web interface (and also smtp/imap). But for
>> this to work every new sender account you add to your GMail must be
>> validated (Google sends you a link that you need to click on).
>>
>> See here
>>
>> https://gmail.googleblog.com/2009/07/send-mail-from-another-address-without.html
>>
>> So, when you say "mail sent from Oracle" do you mean e-mail sent from
>> third party @oracle.com accounts TO your inbox? or e-mails YOU sent
>> from @oracle.com using your gmail account (as per the above referenced
>> feature) ?
>>
>> In any case, I have no probems receiving e-mails from @oracle.com
>> addresses on my GMail account (I usually get them from virtualbox devs
>> as I admin the community mailing list).
>>
>> I also think perhaps this is not exactly the most accurate list to
>> discuss this problem you're having. I mean, this relates to OpenJDK
>> exactly how? Don't get me wrong. Good luck with solving your
>> problem... but I don't know what else to suggest..
>> FC
>>
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