Gmail can not verify mails from oracle.com anymore.
Bernard Traversat
bernard.traversat at oracle.com
Tue Mar 22 20:38:24 UTC 2016
For folks concerned with missing emails, archives are available at:
http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/discuss/
Cheers,
B.
> On Mar 9, 2016, at 5:23 AM, Volker Simonis <volker.simonis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Dalibor,
>
> thanks for the hint. I've resent my request to ops at openjdk now.
>
> Regards,
> Volker
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Dalibor Topic <dalibor.topic at oracle.com> wrote:
>> As we don't rely on java.net for mailing list infrastructure, I would
>> suggest inquiring with ops at openjdk directly.
>>
>> From the description you provided it sounds as if it's an issue with a third
>> party provided service. In that case, effective options to address issues in
>> such third party services may be in limited supply.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> D.
>>
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>> On 09.03.2016, at 12:08, Volker Simonis <volker.simonis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Fernando,
>>
>> thanks for you detailed answer. Probably my initial mail should have been a
>> little more specific. So here are the full details:
>>
>> - I'm reading and writing mails from my gmail account with the gmail web
>> client (no e-mail applications, no third-party accounts).
>>
>> - The problems I describe (and which are new, at least for me) are with
>> mails I receive from OpenJDK mailing list to which I'm subscribed.
>>
>> - If somebody from Oracle sends a mail directly to my gmail account,
>> everything seems fine. Following you can see the mail header of such a mail:
>>
>> Delivered-To: volker.simonis at gmail.com
>> Received: by 10.112.201.105 with SMTP id jz9csp2496735lbc;
>> Wed, 9 Mar 2016 01:39:35 -0800 (PST)
>> X-Received: by 10.66.233.194 with SMTP id
>> ty2mr47611274pac.126.1457516375212;
>> Wed, 09 Mar 2016 01:39:35 -0800 (PST)
>> Return-Path: <Firstname.Lastname at oracle.com>
>> Received: from userp1040.oracle.com (userp1040.oracle.com. [156.151.31.81])
>> by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id
>> rz3si11373065pac.2.2016.03.09.01.39.34
>> for <volker.simonis at gmail.com>
>> (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128);
>> Wed, 09 Mar 2016 01:39:35 -0800 (PST)
>>
>>
>>
>> *Received-SPF: pass (google.com <http://google.com>: domain of
>> Firstname.Lastname at oracle.com <Firstname.Lastname at oracle.com> designates
>> 156.151.31.81 as permitted sender)
>> client-ip=156.151.31.81;Authentication-Results: mx.google.com
>> <http://mx.google.com>; spf=pass (google.com <http://google.com>:
>> domain of Firstname.Lastname at oracle.com <Firstname.Lastname at oracle.com>
>> designates 156.151.31.81 as permitted sender)
>> smtp.mailfrom=Firstname.Lastname at oracle.com
>> <Firstname.Lastname at oracle.com>*Received:
>>
>> from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74])
>> by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with
>> ESMTP id u299dVNF020477
>> (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK);
>> Wed, 9 Mar 2016 09:39:31 GMT
>> Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235])
>> by userv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u299dU4c013059
>> (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL);
>> Wed, 9 Mar 2016 09:39:31 GMT
>> Received: from abhmp0001.oracle.com (abhmp0001.oracle.com [141.146.116.7])
>> by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u299dUhm021174;
>> Wed, 9 Mar 2016 09:39:30 GMT
>> Received: from dhcp-ukc1-twvpn-1-vpnpool-10-175-170-87.vpn.oracle.com (/
>> 10.175.170.87)
>> by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0)
>> with ESMTP ; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 01:39:30 -0800
>> From: Firstname Lastname <Firstname.Lastname at oracle.com>
>>
>> I thing the two important line here are:
>>
>> Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of Firstname.Lastname at oracle.com
>> designates 156.151.31.81 as permitted sender) client-ip=156.151.31.81;
>> Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
>> spf=pass (google.com: domain of Firstname.Lastname at oracle.com
>> designates 156.151.31.81 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=
>> Firstname.Lastname at oracle.com
>>
>>
>> - If I receive a mail from the same person trough the mailing list only,
>> the header looks as follows (and I get the mentioned warning):
>>
>> Delivered-To: volker.simonis at gmail.com
>> Received: by 10.112.201.105 with SMTP id jz9csp1171678lbc;
>> Wed, 2 Mar 2016 06:59:51 -0800 (PST)
>> X-Received: by 10.202.102.200 with SMTP id m69mr2723348oik.74.1456930791527;
>> Wed, 02 Mar 2016 06:59:51 -0800 (PST)
>> Return-Path: <jigsaw-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net>
>> Received: from ucsinet41.oracle.com (ucsinet41.oracle.com. [156.151.31.69])
>> by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id
>> v4si4909551oer.61.2016.03.02.06.59.46
>> (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128);
>> Wed, 02 Mar 2016 06:59:51 -0800 (PST)
>>
>>
>> *Received-SPF: neutral (google.com <http://google.com>: 156.151.31.69 is
>> neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of
>> jigsaw-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net <jigsaw-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net>)
>> client-ip=156.151.31.69;Authentication-Results: mx.google.com
>> <http://mx.google.com>; spf=neutral (google.com <http://google.com>:
>> 156.151.31.69 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for
>> domain of jigsaw-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net
>> <jigsaw-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net>)
>> smtp.mailfrom=jigsaw-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net
>> <jigsaw-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net>*
>> Received: from aojmv0009 (unknown [137.254.59.6]) by ucsinet41.oracle.com
>> with smtp
>> id 46c1_1a8e_897bc1c1_404b_4bad_80e6_6181bbc3fd56;
>> Wed, 02 Mar 2016 14:59:44 +0000
>> Received: from aojmv0009.oracle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])
>> by aojmv0009 (Postfix) with ESMTP id A399516FC09;
>> Wed, 2 Mar 2016 14:59:39 +0000 (UTC)
>> X-Original-To: jigsaw-dev at openjdk.java.net
>> Delivered-To: jigsaw-dev at openjdk.java.net
>> Received: from ucsinet40.oracle.com (ucsinet40.oracle.com [156.151.31.68])
>> by aojmv0009 (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7D016FBF5
>> for <jigsaw-dev at openjdk.java.net>; Wed, 2 Mar 2016 14:59:38 +0000 (UTC)
>> Received: from userp1040.oracle.com (unknown [156.151.31.81]) by
>> ucsinet40.oracle.com with smtp
>> (TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384)
>> id 3c57_9292_5ef7d675_aa54_43c9_88d5_42790628157b;
>> Wed, 02 Mar 2016 14:59:36 +0000
>> Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234])
>> by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with
>> ESMTP id u22Exa1Z015731
>> (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK)
>> for <jigsaw-dev at openjdk.java.net>; Wed, 2 Mar 2016 14:59:37 GMT
>> Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75])
>> by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u22ExaM8028136
>> (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL)
>> for <jigsaw-dev at openjdk.java.net>; Wed, 2 Mar 2016 14:59:36 GMT
>> Received: from abhmp0014.oracle.com (abhmp0014.oracle.com [141.146.116.20])
>> by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id u22ExaRW017456
>> for <jigsaw-dev at openjdk.java.net>; Wed, 2 Mar 2016 14:59:36 GMT
>> Received: from dhcp-ukc1-twvpn-2-vpnpool-10-175-198-188.vpn.oracle.com
>> (/10.175.198.188) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0)
>> with ESMTP ; Wed, 02 Mar 2016 06:59:35 -0800
>> From: Firstname Lastname <Firstname.Lastname at oracle.com>
>>
>> The authentication lines are different:
>>
>> Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 156.151.31.69 is neither permitted nor
>> denied by best guess record for domain of
>> jigsaw-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net) client-ip=156.151.31.69;
>> Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
>> spf=neutral (google.com: 156.151.31.69 is neither permitted nor
>> denied by best guess record for domain of
>> jigsaw-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net) smtp.mailfrom=
>> jigsaw-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net
>>
>> As the warnings only appear since today, I wonder if either Google is
>> checking more thoroughly or if the mai/server configuration at
>> openjdk.java.net was changed?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Volker
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Fernando Cassia <fcassia at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 3/9/16, Mario Torre <neugens at redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Volker Simonis <volker.simonis at gmail.com
>>
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> I've subscribed to most Openjdk mailing lists from my Google mail
>>
>> account (gmail.com).
>>
>>
>> Today I noticed that all mails in my inbox which were sent from the
>>
>> oracle.com domain are flagged with "Gmail couldn't verify that
>>
>> oracle.com actually sent this message (and not a spammer)"
>>
>>
>> Volker,
>>
>>
>> It is impossible to help you with more data: do you send emails from
>>
>> GMail using the web interface or do you have it configured to use an
>>
>> e-mail application (Outlook, Windows Mail, Thunderbird, etc) over pop3
>>
>> or imap protocols?
>>
>>
>> GMail provides ways to configure third party accounts into your
>>
>> GMail,so you can send e-mail from OTHER (non-GMail) accounts (as
>>
>> sender) using your GMail web interface (and also smtp/imap). But for
>>
>> this to work every new sender account you add to your GMail must be
>>
>> validated (Google sends you a link that you need to click on).
>>
>>
>> See here
>>
>>
>> https://gmail.googleblog.com/2009/07/send-mail-from-another-address-without.html
>>
>>
>> So, when you say "mail sent from Oracle" do you mean e-mail sent from
>>
>> third party @oracle.com accounts TO your inbox? or e-mails YOU sent
>>
>> from @oracle.com using your gmail account (as per the above referenced
>>
>> feature) ?
>>
>>
>> In any case, I have no probems receiving e-mails from @oracle.com
>>
>> addresses on my GMail account (I usually get them from virtualbox devs
>>
>> as I admin the community mailing list).
>>
>>
>> I also think perhaps this is not exactly the most accurate list to
>>
>> discuss this problem you're having. I mean, this relates to OpenJDK
>>
>> exactly how? Don't get me wrong. Good luck with solving your
>>
>> problem... but I don't know what else to suggest..
>>
>> FC
>>
>>
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