From pyng1101 at gmail.com Wed May 4 13:17:45 2016 From: pyng1101 at gmail.com (Kok Pyng Liew) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 21:17:45 +0800 Subject: Hi Message-ID: Hello, I am new to the list and just got my OCA processed. I have been using Java language as my main development language for a few years. So I would like to learn more about the language and platform and contribute my bit. I am particular interested in JDK development and trying to follow the progress currently. Any help or guidance will be appreciated. Thank you. Best Regards, Kok Pyng From martijnverburg at gmail.com Thu May 5 18:23:29 2016 From: martijnverburg at gmail.com (Martijn Verburg) Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 19:23:29 +0100 Subject: Hi In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Kok, Welcome to OpenJDK! We have a guide on how to contribute: http://openjdk.java.net/contribute/ The Adoption Group (http://openjdk.java.net/groups/adoption/) is a place you can go to for extra resources if you are new to OpenJDK. Cheers, Martijn On 4 May 2016 at 14:17, Kok Pyng Liew wrote: > Hello, > > I am new to the list and just got my OCA processed. > > I have been using Java language as my main development language for a few > years. So I would like to learn more about the language and platform and > contribute my bit. > > I am particular interested in JDK development and trying to follow the > progress currently. Any help or guidance will be appreciated. > > Thank you. > > Best Regards, > Kok Pyng > From mail at florian-latifi.at Fri May 13 17:56:28 2016 From: mail at florian-latifi.at (Florian Latifi) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 19:56:28 +0200 Subject: Introduction Message-ID: <1463162188.9877.0@lafl-server.florian-latifi.at> Hello guys, I just want to introduce myself. My name is Florian, I am 23 years old and currently studying computer science at JKU in Linz, Austria. In my bachelor thesis I am dealing with debugging support in Sulong. It's a LLVM IR interpreter written in the Truffle framework and that's how I found my way to you :) I am looking forward to a good cooperation with you guys. Best regards Florian From martijnverburg at gmail.com Fri May 13 18:00:33 2016 From: martijnverburg at gmail.com (Martijn Verburg) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 19:00:33 +0100 Subject: Introduction In-Reply-To: <1463162188.9877.0@lafl-server.florian-latifi.at> References: <1463162188.9877.0@lafl-server.florian-latifi.at> Message-ID: Hi Florian, Welcome to OpenJDK! If you get lost then you can pop over to the adoption group and ask for help :-). Cheers, Martijn On 13 May 2016 at 18:56, Florian Latifi wrote: > Hello guys, > > I just want to introduce myself. > My name is Florian, I am 23 years old and currently studying computer > science at JKU in Linz, Austria. > In my bachelor thesis I am dealing with debugging support in Sulong. > It's a LLVM IR interpreter written in the Truffle framework and that's how > I found my way to you :) > > I am looking forward to a good cooperation with you guys. > > Best regards > Florian > From neugens.limasoftware at gmail.com Sat May 14 21:11:36 2016 From: neugens.limasoftware at gmail.com (Mario Torre) Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 23:11:36 +0200 Subject: CFV: New Project: s390x Port In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Vote: Yes! Cheers, Mario 2016-05-14 9:03 GMT+02:00 Volker Simonis : > I hereby propose the creation of the "s390x Port" Project with me, > Volker Simonis as the Lead and the Porters Group as the sponsoring > Group. > > The goal of the project will be to provide a full-featured and > certifiable version of the OpenJDK on the Linux/s390x platform which > can be integrated into the main OpenJDK development branch. > > The port will run on IBM System z models z10 or newer (64-bit) [3]. > > We (SAP) already have a complete (i.e. template interpreter, C1 and C2 > JIT) and certified (Java 4-8) s390x port which is used in production > for many years. > > Our plan is to integrate the s390x port into a branch of the actual > OpenJDK development code line (currently jdk9). Once the port is > complete, we plan to integrate it into the then active OpenJDK > development branch and potentially downport it to older releases. > > Based on the experience we gained with our PowerPC/AIX Port, we expect > the s390x port to be much easier and less intrusive because s390x is > a CISC processor with a strong memory model (comparable to x86). It > only requires very few shared code changes and no OS changes at all > because the port will only run on Linux. > > The project will initially be driven by SAP and supported by IBM both > of whom have a long-standing experience in developing and porting > JDKs to various platforms including Linux/s390x, Linux/PowerPC and > AIX/PowerPC. But as this is an open source project of course anybody > interested is highly welcome to join the porting effort. The complete > development process and discussions will happen in the open on the > project mailing list. > > I will lead the project. I work for SAP in the SAP JVM Technology > group since more than 10 years. I'm the project lead of the > PowerPC/AIX Port Project [4], a member of the Build, HotSpot and > OpenJDK Members Group [5] and an active jdk9 committer and reviewer. > > The initial committers will be: > Lutz Schmidt (SAP) > Martin Doerr (SAP) > Goetz Lindenmaier (SAP) > Volker Simonis (SAP) > > Votes are due by May 28, 2016, 18:00 CET [6]. > > Only current OpenJDK Members [1] are eligible to vote on this > motion. Votes must be case in the open by replying to to this > mailing list. > > For Lazy Consensus voting instructions, see [2]. > > Volker Simonis > > PS: it's a funny coincidence and hopefully lucky omen that I post this > CFV exactly four years to the day I posted the CFV for the PowerPC/AIX > port :) [7] > > [1] http://openjdk.java.net/census#members > [2] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/#new-project-vote > [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System_z > [4] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/ppc-aix-port/ > [5] http://openjdk.java.net/census#simonis > [6] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=CFV%3A+New+Project%3A+s390x+Port&iso=20160528T18&p1=991 > [7] http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/announce/2012-May/000125.html -- pgp key: http://subkeys.pgp.net/ PGP Key ID: 80F240CF Fingerprint: BA39 9666 94EC 8B73 27FA FC7C 4086 63E3 80F2 40CF Java Champion - Blog: http://neugens.wordpress.com - Twitter: @neugens Proud GNU Classpath developer: http://www.classpath.org/ OpenJDK: http://openjdk.java.net/projects/caciocavallo/ Please, support open standards: http://endsoftpatents.org/ From david.holmes at oracle.com Mon May 16 04:42:18 2016 From: david.holmes at oracle.com (David Holmes) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 14:42:18 +1000 Subject: CFV: New Project: s390x Port In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6431dae8-ab26-d1b1-8d38-8f8d7583a167@oracle.com> Hi Volker, Call for votes go to the announce list, while calls for discussion of project proposals go to the discuss list. You sent this CFV to both ?? Was there an intent to initiate a discussion before the vote? Thanks, David On 14/05/2016 5:03 PM, Volker Simonis wrote: > I hereby propose the creation of the "s390x Port" Project with me, > Volker Simonis as the Lead and the Porters Group as the sponsoring > Group. > > The goal of the project will be to provide a full-featured and > certifiable version of the OpenJDK on the Linux/s390x platform which > can be integrated into the main OpenJDK development branch. > > The port will run on IBM System z models z10 or newer (64-bit) [3]. > > We (SAP) already have a complete (i.e. template interpreter, C1 and C2 > JIT) and certified (Java 4-8) s390x port which is used in production > for many years. > > Our plan is to integrate the s390x port into a branch of the actual > OpenJDK development code line (currently jdk9). Once the port is > complete, we plan to integrate it into the then active OpenJDK > development branch and potentially downport it to older releases. > > Based on the experience we gained with our PowerPC/AIX Port, we expect > the s390x port to be much easier and less intrusive because s390x is > a CISC processor with a strong memory model (comparable to x86). It > only requires very few shared code changes and no OS changes at all > because the port will only run on Linux. > > The project will initially be driven by SAP and supported by IBM both > of whom have a long-standing experience in developing and porting > JDKs to various platforms including Linux/s390x, Linux/PowerPC and > AIX/PowerPC. But as this is an open source project of course anybody > interested is highly welcome to join the porting effort. The complete > development process and discussions will happen in the open on the > project mailing list. > > I will lead the project. I work for SAP in the SAP JVM Technology > group since more than 10 years. I'm the project lead of the > PowerPC/AIX Port Project [4], a member of the Build, HotSpot and > OpenJDK Members Group [5] and an active jdk9 committer and reviewer. > > The initial committers will be: > Lutz Schmidt (SAP) > Martin Doerr (SAP) > Goetz Lindenmaier (SAP) > Volker Simonis (SAP) > > Votes are due by May 28, 2016, 18:00 CET [6]. > > Only current OpenJDK Members [1] are eligible to vote on this > motion. Votes must be case in the open by replying to to this > mailing list. > > For Lazy Consensus voting instructions, see [2]. > > Volker Simonis > > PS: it's a funny coincidence and hopefully lucky omen that I post this > CFV exactly four years to the day I posted the CFV for the PowerPC/AIX > port :) [7] > > [1] http://openjdk.java.net/census#members > [2] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/#new-project-vote > [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System_z > [4] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/ppc-aix-port/ > [5] http://openjdk.java.net/census#simonis > [6] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=CFV%3A+New+Project%3A+s390x+Port&iso=20160528T18&p1=991 > [7] http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/announce/2012-May/000125.html > From ChrisPhi at LGonQn.Org Mon May 16 14:11:40 2016 From: ChrisPhi at LGonQn.Org (Chris Phillips) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 10:11:40 -0400 Subject: CFV: New Project: s390x Port In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5739D51C.6050009@LGonQn.Org> Vote: yes Chris On 14/05/16 03:03 AM, Volker Simonis wrote: > I hereby propose the creation of the "s390x Port" Project with me, > Volker Simonis as the Lead and the Porters Group as the sponsoring > Group. > > The goal of the project will be to provide a full-featured and > certifiable version of the OpenJDK on the Linux/s390x platform which > can be integrated into the main OpenJDK development branch. > > The port will run on IBM System z models z10 or newer (64-bit) [3]. > > We (SAP) already have a complete (i.e. template interpreter, C1 and C2 > JIT) and certified (Java 4-8) s390x port which is used in production > for many years. > > Our plan is to integrate the s390x port into a branch of the actual > OpenJDK development code line (currently jdk9). Once the port is > complete, we plan to integrate it into the then active OpenJDK > development branch and potentially downport it to older releases. > > Based on the experience we gained with our PowerPC/AIX Port, we expect > the s390x port to be much easier and less intrusive because s390x is > a CISC processor with a strong memory model (comparable to x86). It > only requires very few shared code changes and no OS changes at all > because the port will only run on Linux. > > The project will initially be driven by SAP and supported by IBM both > of whom have a long-standing experience in developing and porting > JDKs to various platforms including Linux/s390x, Linux/PowerPC and > AIX/PowerPC. But as this is an open source project of course anybody > interested is highly welcome to join the porting effort. The complete > development process and discussions will happen in the open on the > project mailing list. > > I will lead the project. I work for SAP in the SAP JVM Technology > group since more than 10 years. I'm the project lead of the > PowerPC/AIX Port Project [4], a member of the Build, HotSpot and > OpenJDK Members Group [5] and an active jdk9 committer and reviewer. > > The initial committers will be: > Lutz Schmidt (SAP) > Martin Doerr (SAP) > Goetz Lindenmaier (SAP) > Volker Simonis (SAP) > > Votes are due by May 28, 2016, 18:00 CET [6]. > > Only current OpenJDK Members [1] are eligible to vote on this > motion. Votes must be case in the open by replying to to this > mailing list. > > For Lazy Consensus voting instructions, see [2]. > > Volker Simonis > > PS: it's a funny coincidence and hopefully lucky omen that I post this > CFV exactly four years to the day I posted the CFV for the PowerPC/AIX > port :) [7] > > [1] http://openjdk.java.net/census#members > [2] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/#new-project-vote > [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System_z > [4] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/ppc-aix-port/ > [5] http://openjdk.java.net/census#simonis > [6] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=CFV%3A+New+Project%3A+s390x+Port&iso=20160528T18&p1=991 > [7] http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/announce/2012-May/000125.html > > From dalibor.topic at oracle.com Mon May 16 14:43:01 2016 From: dalibor.topic at oracle.com (dalibor topic) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 16:43:01 +0200 Subject: CFV: New Project: s390x Port In-Reply-To: <6431dae8-ab26-d1b1-8d38-8f8d7583a167@oracle.com> References: <6431dae8-ab26-d1b1-8d38-8f8d7583a167@oracle.com> Message-ID: <925c3338-671b-6dee-2b32-c3dcf11ddbb7@oracle.com> I believe that the discussion already took place on porters-dev: http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/porters-dev/2016-May/000542.html cheers, dalibor topic On 16.05.2016 06:42, David Holmes wrote: > Hi Volker, > > Call for votes go to the announce list, while calls for discussion of > project proposals go to the discuss list. You sent this CFV to both ?? > Was there an intent to initiate a discussion before the vote? > > Thanks, > David > > On 14/05/2016 5:03 PM, Volker Simonis wrote: >> I hereby propose the creation of the "s390x Port" Project with me, >> Volker Simonis as the Lead and the Porters Group as the sponsoring >> Group. >> >> The goal of the project will be to provide a full-featured and >> certifiable version of the OpenJDK on the Linux/s390x platform which >> can be integrated into the main OpenJDK development branch. >> >> The port will run on IBM System z models z10 or newer (64-bit) [3]. >> >> We (SAP) already have a complete (i.e. template interpreter, C1 and C2 >> JIT) and certified (Java 4-8) s390x port which is used in production >> for many years. >> >> Our plan is to integrate the s390x port into a branch of the actual >> OpenJDK development code line (currently jdk9). Once the port is >> complete, we plan to integrate it into the then active OpenJDK >> development branch and potentially downport it to older releases. >> >> Based on the experience we gained with our PowerPC/AIX Port, we expect >> the s390x port to be much easier and less intrusive because s390x is >> a CISC processor with a strong memory model (comparable to x86). It >> only requires very few shared code changes and no OS changes at all >> because the port will only run on Linux. >> >> The project will initially be driven by SAP and supported by IBM both >> of whom have a long-standing experience in developing and porting >> JDKs to various platforms including Linux/s390x, Linux/PowerPC and >> AIX/PowerPC. But as this is an open source project of course anybody >> interested is highly welcome to join the porting effort. The complete >> development process and discussions will happen in the open on the >> project mailing list. >> >> I will lead the project. I work for SAP in the SAP JVM Technology >> group since more than 10 years. I'm the project lead of the >> PowerPC/AIX Port Project [4], a member of the Build, HotSpot and >> OpenJDK Members Group [5] and an active jdk9 committer and reviewer. >> >> The initial committers will be: >> Lutz Schmidt (SAP) >> Martin Doerr (SAP) >> Goetz Lindenmaier (SAP) >> Volker Simonis (SAP) >> >> Votes are due by May 28, 2016, 18:00 CET [6]. >> >> Only current OpenJDK Members [1] are eligible to vote on this >> motion. Votes must be case in the open by replying to to this >> mailing list. >> >> For Lazy Consensus voting instructions, see [2]. >> >> Volker Simonis >> >> PS: it's a funny coincidence and hopefully lucky omen that I post this >> CFV exactly four years to the day I posted the CFV for the PowerPC/AIX >> port :) [7] >> >> [1] http://openjdk.java.net/census#members >> [2] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/#new-project-vote >> [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System_z >> [4] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/ppc-aix-port/ >> [5] http://openjdk.java.net/census#simonis >> [6] >> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=CFV%3A+New+Project%3A+s390x+Port&iso=20160528T18&p1=991 >> >> [7] http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/announce/2012-May/000125.html >> -- Dalibor Topic | Principal Product Manager Phone: +494089091214 | Mobile: +491737185961 ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG | K?hneh?fe 5 | 22761 Hamburg ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG Hauptverwaltung: Riesstr. 25, D-80992 M?nchen Registergericht: Amtsgericht M?nchen, HRA 95603 Komplement?rin: ORACLE Deutschland Verwaltung B.V. Hertogswetering 163/167, 3543 AS Utrecht, Niederlande Handelsregister der Handelskammer Midden-Niederlande, Nr. 30143697 Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Alexander van der Ven, Jan Schultheiss, Val Maher Oracle is committed to developing practices and products that help protect the environment From dalibor.topic at oracle.com Mon May 16 14:43:50 2016 From: dalibor.topic at oracle.com (dalibor topic) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 16:43:50 +0200 Subject: CFV: New Project: s390x Port In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1b9bc4a4-0d2c-f8cb-26f3-7ecd79ebb396@oracle.com> Vote: Yes. cheers, dalibor topic -- Dalibor Topic | Principal Product Manager Phone: +494089091214 | Mobile: +491737185961 ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG | K?hneh?fe 5 | 22761 Hamburg ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG Hauptverwaltung: Riesstr. 25, D-80992 M?nchen Registergericht: Amtsgericht M?nchen, HRA 95603 Komplement?rin: ORACLE Deutschland Verwaltung B.V. Hertogswetering 163/167, 3543 AS Utrecht, Niederlande Handelsregister der Handelskammer Midden-Niederlande, Nr. 30143697 Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Alexander van der Ven, Jan Schultheiss, Val Maher Oracle is committed to developing practices and products that help protect the environment From aph at redhat.com Mon May 16 15:19:04 2016 From: aph at redhat.com (Andrew Haley) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 16:19:04 +0100 Subject: CFV: New Project: s390x Port In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5739E4E8.8030401@redhat.com> Vote: yes Andrew. From vladimir.kozlov at oracle.com Mon May 16 18:46:10 2016 From: vladimir.kozlov at oracle.com (Vladimir Kozlov) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 11:46:10 -0700 Subject: CFV: New Project: s390x Port In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Vote: yes On 5/14/16 12:03 AM, Volker Simonis wrote: > I hereby propose the creation of the "s390x Port" Project with me, > Volker Simonis as the Lead and the Porters Group as the sponsoring > Group. > > The goal of the project will be to provide a full-featured and > certifiable version of the OpenJDK on the Linux/s390x platform which > can be integrated into the main OpenJDK development branch. > > The port will run on IBM System z models z10 or newer (64-bit) [3]. > > We (SAP) already have a complete (i.e. template interpreter, C1 and C2 > JIT) and certified (Java 4-8) s390x port which is used in production > for many years. > > Our plan is to integrate the s390x port into a branch of the actual > OpenJDK development code line (currently jdk9). Once the port is > complete, we plan to integrate it into the then active OpenJDK > development branch and potentially downport it to older releases. > > Based on the experience we gained with our PowerPC/AIX Port, we expect > the s390x port to be much easier and less intrusive because s390x is > a CISC processor with a strong memory model (comparable to x86). It > only requires very few shared code changes and no OS changes at all > because the port will only run on Linux. > > The project will initially be driven by SAP and supported by IBM both > of whom have a long-standing experience in developing and porting > JDKs to various platforms including Linux/s390x, Linux/PowerPC and > AIX/PowerPC. But as this is an open source project of course anybody > interested is highly welcome to join the porting effort. The complete > development process and discussions will happen in the open on the > project mailing list. > > I will lead the project. I work for SAP in the SAP JVM Technology > group since more than 10 years. I'm the project lead of the > PowerPC/AIX Port Project [4], a member of the Build, HotSpot and > OpenJDK Members Group [5] and an active jdk9 committer and reviewer. > > The initial committers will be: > Lutz Schmidt (SAP) > Martin Doerr (SAP) > Goetz Lindenmaier (SAP) > Volker Simonis (SAP) > > Votes are due by May 28, 2016, 18:00 CET [6]. > > Only current OpenJDK Members [1] are eligible to vote on this > motion. Votes must be case in the open by replying to to this > mailing list. > > For Lazy Consensus voting instructions, see [2]. > > Volker Simonis > > PS: it's a funny coincidence and hopefully lucky omen that I post this > CFV exactly four years to the day I posted the CFV for the PowerPC/AIX > port :) [7] > > [1] http://openjdk.java.net/census#members > [2] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/#new-project-vote > [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System_z > [4] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/ppc-aix-port/ > [5] http://openjdk.java.net/census#simonis > [6] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=CFV%3A+New+Project%3A+s390x+Port&iso=20160528T18&p1=991 > [7] http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/announce/2012-May/000125.html > From Alan.Bateman at oracle.com Mon May 16 18:51:33 2016 From: Alan.Bateman at oracle.com (Alan Bateman) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 19:51:33 +0100 Subject: CFV: New Project: s390x Port In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <573A16B5.4000108@oracle.com> Vote: yes From david.holmes at oracle.com Mon May 16 20:53:26 2016 From: david.holmes at oracle.com (David Holmes) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 06:53:26 +1000 Subject: CFV: New Project: s390x Port In-Reply-To: <925c3338-671b-6dee-2b32-c3dcf11ddbb7@oracle.com> References: <6431dae8-ab26-d1b1-8d38-8f8d7583a167@oracle.com> <925c3338-671b-6dee-2b32-c3dcf11ddbb7@oracle.com> Message-ID: <90b58dfe-bb1e-efca-a519-c87d11211ad3@oracle.com> On 17/05/2016 12:43 AM, dalibor topic wrote: > I believe that the discussion already took place on porters-dev: > http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/porters-dev/2016-May/000542.html Pre-discussion perhaps :) Official discussion should have been on the discuss list. Also it seems some people are sending their votes to the discuss list when they should go to the announce list. I suggest this CFV be withdrawn and restarted with only the correct mailing list involved. David ----- > cheers, > dalibor topic > > On 16.05.2016 06:42, David Holmes wrote: >> Hi Volker, >> >> Call for votes go to the announce list, while calls for discussion of >> project proposals go to the discuss list. You sent this CFV to both ?? >> Was there an intent to initiate a discussion before the vote? >> >> Thanks, >> David >> >> On 14/05/2016 5:03 PM, Volker Simonis wrote: >>> I hereby propose the creation of the "s390x Port" Project with me, >>> Volker Simonis as the Lead and the Porters Group as the sponsoring >>> Group. >>> >>> The goal of the project will be to provide a full-featured and >>> certifiable version of the OpenJDK on the Linux/s390x platform which >>> can be integrated into the main OpenJDK development branch. >>> >>> The port will run on IBM System z models z10 or newer (64-bit) [3]. >>> >>> We (SAP) already have a complete (i.e. template interpreter, C1 and C2 >>> JIT) and certified (Java 4-8) s390x port which is used in production >>> for many years. >>> >>> Our plan is to integrate the s390x port into a branch of the actual >>> OpenJDK development code line (currently jdk9). Once the port is >>> complete, we plan to integrate it into the then active OpenJDK >>> development branch and potentially downport it to older releases. >>> >>> Based on the experience we gained with our PowerPC/AIX Port, we expect >>> the s390x port to be much easier and less intrusive because s390x is >>> a CISC processor with a strong memory model (comparable to x86). It >>> only requires very few shared code changes and no OS changes at all >>> because the port will only run on Linux. >>> >>> The project will initially be driven by SAP and supported by IBM both >>> of whom have a long-standing experience in developing and porting >>> JDKs to various platforms including Linux/s390x, Linux/PowerPC and >>> AIX/PowerPC. But as this is an open source project of course anybody >>> interested is highly welcome to join the porting effort. The complete >>> development process and discussions will happen in the open on the >>> project mailing list. >>> >>> I will lead the project. I work for SAP in the SAP JVM Technology >>> group since more than 10 years. I'm the project lead of the >>> PowerPC/AIX Port Project [4], a member of the Build, HotSpot and >>> OpenJDK Members Group [5] and an active jdk9 committer and reviewer. >>> >>> The initial committers will be: >>> Lutz Schmidt (SAP) >>> Martin Doerr (SAP) >>> Goetz Lindenmaier (SAP) >>> Volker Simonis (SAP) >>> >>> Votes are due by May 28, 2016, 18:00 CET [6]. >>> >>> Only current OpenJDK Members [1] are eligible to vote on this >>> motion. Votes must be case in the open by replying to to this >>> mailing list. >>> >>> For Lazy Consensus voting instructions, see [2]. >>> >>> Volker Simonis >>> >>> PS: it's a funny coincidence and hopefully lucky omen that I post this >>> CFV exactly four years to the day I posted the CFV for the PowerPC/AIX >>> port :) [7] >>> >>> [1] http://openjdk.java.net/census#members >>> [2] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/#new-project-vote >>> [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System_z >>> [4] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/ppc-aix-port/ >>> [5] http://openjdk.java.net/census#simonis >>> [6] >>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=CFV%3A+New+Project%3A+s390x+Port&iso=20160528T18&p1=991 >>> >>> >>> [7] http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/announce/2012-May/000125.html >>> > From dalibor.topic at oracle.com Tue May 17 11:25:06 2016 From: dalibor.topic at oracle.com (dalibor topic) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 13:25:06 +0200 Subject: CFV: New Project: s390x Port In-Reply-To: <90b58dfe-bb1e-efca-a519-c87d11211ad3@oracle.com> References: <6431dae8-ab26-d1b1-8d38-8f8d7583a167@oracle.com> <925c3338-671b-6dee-2b32-c3dcf11ddbb7@oracle.com> <90b58dfe-bb1e-efca-a519-c87d11211ad3@oracle.com> Message-ID: <1b795e9a-201d-9386-99e5-702aff90dd3b@oracle.com> On 16.05.2016 22:53, David Holmes wrote: > On 17/05/2016 12:43 AM, dalibor topic wrote: >> I believe that the discussion already took place on porters-dev: >> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/porters-dev/2016-May/000542.html > > Pre-discussion perhaps :) Official discussion should have been on the > discuss list. Keep in mind that a separate discussion on the discuss list is technically an optional step, though, per http://openjdk.java.net/projects/#new-project . ;) > Also it seems some people are sending their votes to the discuss list > when they should go to the announce list. Regarding votes on new Projects http://openjdk.java.net/projects/#new-project has this to say: "Eligible voters cast their vote by sending e-mail to the general discussion list." cheers, dalibor topic -- Dalibor Topic | Principal Product Manager Phone: +494089091214 | Mobile: +491737185961 ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG | K?hneh?fe 5 | 22761 Hamburg ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG Hauptverwaltung: Riesstr. 25, D-80992 M?nchen Registergericht: Amtsgericht M?nchen, HRA 95603 Komplement?rin: ORACLE Deutschland Verwaltung B.V. Hertogswetering 163/167, 3543 AS Utrecht, Niederlande Handelsregister der Handelskammer Midden-Niederlande, Nr. 30143697 Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Alexander van der Ven, Jan Schultheiss, Val Maher Oracle is committed to developing practices and products that help protect the environment From david.holmes at oracle.com Tue May 17 11:59:45 2016 From: david.holmes at oracle.com (David Holmes) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 21:59:45 +1000 Subject: CFV: New Project: s390x Port In-Reply-To: <1b795e9a-201d-9386-99e5-702aff90dd3b@oracle.com> References: <6431dae8-ab26-d1b1-8d38-8f8d7583a167@oracle.com> <925c3338-671b-6dee-2b32-c3dcf11ddbb7@oracle.com> <90b58dfe-bb1e-efca-a519-c87d11211ad3@oracle.com> <1b795e9a-201d-9386-99e5-702aff90dd3b@oracle.com> Message-ID: <53bfc124-2d44-371d-8108-a724102a4345@oracle.com> On 17/05/2016 9:25 PM, dalibor topic wrote: > > > On 16.05.2016 22:53, David Holmes wrote: >> On 17/05/2016 12:43 AM, dalibor topic wrote: >>> I believe that the discussion already took place on porters-dev: >>> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/porters-dev/2016-May/000542.html >> >> Pre-discussion perhaps :) Official discussion should have been on the >> discuss list. > > Keep in mind that a separate discussion on the discuss list is > technically an optional step, though, per > http://openjdk.java.net/projects/#new-project . ;) Yes but I read that as "discussion is optional, but if it happens then it should happen on the general discussion list". >> Also it seems some people are sending their votes to the discuss list >> when they should go to the announce list. > > Regarding votes on new Projects > http://openjdk.java.net/projects/#new-project has this to say: > > "Eligible voters cast their vote by sending e-mail to the general > discussion list." Sorry - Yes I misread part of that. I was confused by the sending of the CFV to the announce list and the statement "Replying to this message is sufficient if your mail program honors the Reply-To header." - but there is nothing about setting a reply-to header mentioned anywhere that I can see. Cheers, David > cheers, > dalibor topic From volker.simonis at gmail.com Thu May 19 15:03:11 2016 From: volker.simonis at gmail.com (Volker Simonis) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 17:03:11 +0200 Subject: CFV: New Project: s390x Port In-Reply-To: <53bfc124-2d44-371d-8108-a724102a4345@oracle.com> References: <6431dae8-ab26-d1b1-8d38-8f8d7583a167@oracle.com> <925c3338-671b-6dee-2b32-c3dcf11ddbb7@oracle.com> <90b58dfe-bb1e-efca-a519-c87d11211ad3@oracle.com> <1b795e9a-201d-9386-99e5-702aff90dd3b@oracle.com> <53bfc124-2d44-371d-8108-a724102a4345@oracle.com> Message-ID: Hi David, "same discussion as every year" :) Please see your comments and Iris' and my replies on the same topic back in 2012 when I started a CFV for the PowerPC/AIX project: http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/discuss/2012-May/002640.html http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/discuss/2012-May/002647.html I hope your mail was not intended to be count as a "Veto" :) Regards, Volker On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:59 PM, David Holmes wrote: > On 17/05/2016 9:25 PM, dalibor topic wrote: >> >> >> >> On 16.05.2016 22:53, David Holmes wrote: >>> >>> On 17/05/2016 12:43 AM, dalibor topic wrote: >>>> >>>> I believe that the discussion already took place on porters-dev: >>>> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/porters-dev/2016-May/000542.html >>> >>> >>> Pre-discussion perhaps :) Official discussion should have been on the >>> discuss list. >> >> >> Keep in mind that a separate discussion on the discuss list is >> technically an optional step, though, per >> http://openjdk.java.net/projects/#new-project . ;) > > > Yes but I read that as "discussion is optional, but if it happens then it > should happen on the general discussion list". > >>> Also it seems some people are sending their votes to the discuss list >>> when they should go to the announce list. >> >> >> Regarding votes on new Projects >> http://openjdk.java.net/projects/#new-project has this to say: >> >> "Eligible voters cast their vote by sending e-mail to the general >> discussion list." > > > Sorry - Yes I misread part of that. I was confused by the sending of the CFV > to the announce list and the statement "Replying to this message is > sufficient if your mail program honors the Reply-To header." - but there is > nothing about setting a reply-to header mentioned anywhere that I can see. > > Cheers, > David > > >> cheers, >> dalibor topic From david.holmes at oracle.com Fri May 20 00:18:04 2016 From: david.holmes at oracle.com (David Holmes) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 10:18:04 +1000 Subject: CFV: New Project: s390x Port In-Reply-To: References: <6431dae8-ab26-d1b1-8d38-8f8d7583a167@oracle.com> <925c3338-671b-6dee-2b32-c3dcf11ddbb7@oracle.com> <90b58dfe-bb1e-efca-a519-c87d11211ad3@oracle.com> <1b795e9a-201d-9386-99e5-702aff90dd3b@oracle.com> <53bfc124-2d44-371d-8108-a724102a4345@oracle.com> Message-ID: <601de444-6760-edba-80b2-885edd407f11@oracle.com> On 20/05/2016 1:03 AM, Volker Simonis wrote: > Hi David, > > "same discussion as every year" :) > > Please see your comments and Iris' and my replies on the same topic > back in 2012 when I started a CFV for the PowerPC/AIX project: > > http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/discuss/2012-May/002640.html > http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/discuss/2012-May/002647.html Yeah I re-found that too. :) > I hope your mail was not intended to be count as a "Veto" :) Absolutely not. I was initially a bit confused having seen the RFE that IBM filed to start a port, and then I saw the CFV with SAP contributing a port. I knew there was something missing in the middle. :) Cheers, David > Regards, > Volker > > > On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:59 PM, David Holmes wrote: >> On 17/05/2016 9:25 PM, dalibor topic wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 16.05.2016 22:53, David Holmes wrote: >>>> >>>> On 17/05/2016 12:43 AM, dalibor topic wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I believe that the discussion already took place on porters-dev: >>>>> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/porters-dev/2016-May/000542.html >>>> >>>> >>>> Pre-discussion perhaps :) Official discussion should have been on the >>>> discuss list. >>> >>> >>> Keep in mind that a separate discussion on the discuss list is >>> technically an optional step, though, per >>> http://openjdk.java.net/projects/#new-project . ;) >> >> >> Yes but I read that as "discussion is optional, but if it happens then it >> should happen on the general discussion list". >> >>>> Also it seems some people are sending their votes to the discuss list >>>> when they should go to the announce list. >>> >>> >>> Regarding votes on new Projects >>> http://openjdk.java.net/projects/#new-project has this to say: >>> >>> "Eligible voters cast their vote by sending e-mail to the general >>> discussion list." >> >> >> Sorry - Yes I misread part of that. I was confused by the sending of the CFV >> to the announce list and the statement "Replying to this message is >> sufficient if your mail program honors the Reply-To header." - but there is >> nothing about setting a reply-to header mentioned anywhere that I can see. >> >> Cheers, >> David >> >> >>> cheers, >>> dalibor topic From david.holmes at oracle.com Fri May 20 00:18:28 2016 From: david.holmes at oracle.com (David Holmes) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 10:18:28 +1000 Subject: CFV: New Project: s390x Port In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9cf74696-95e9-1ba1-5a87-ae1b101ab25a@oracle.com> Vote: yes David On 14/05/2016 5:03 PM, Volker Simonis wrote: > I hereby propose the creation of the "s390x Port" Project with me, > Volker Simonis as the Lead and the Porters Group as the sponsoring > Group. > > The goal of the project will be to provide a full-featured and > certifiable version of the OpenJDK on the Linux/s390x platform which > can be integrated into the main OpenJDK development branch. > > The port will run on IBM System z models z10 or newer (64-bit) [3]. > > We (SAP) already have a complete (i.e. template interpreter, C1 and C2 > JIT) and certified (Java 4-8) s390x port which is used in production > for many years. > > Our plan is to integrate the s390x port into a branch of the actual > OpenJDK development code line (currently jdk9). Once the port is > complete, we plan to integrate it into the then active OpenJDK > development branch and potentially downport it to older releases. > > Based on the experience we gained with our PowerPC/AIX Port, we expect > the s390x port to be much easier and less intrusive because s390x is > a CISC processor with a strong memory model (comparable to x86). It > only requires very few shared code changes and no OS changes at all > because the port will only run on Linux. > > The project will initially be driven by SAP and supported by IBM both > of whom have a long-standing experience in developing and porting > JDKs to various platforms including Linux/s390x, Linux/PowerPC and > AIX/PowerPC. But as this is an open source project of course anybody > interested is highly welcome to join the porting effort. The complete > development process and discussions will happen in the open on the > project mailing list. > > I will lead the project. I work for SAP in the SAP JVM Technology > group since more than 10 years. I'm the project lead of the > PowerPC/AIX Port Project [4], a member of the Build, HotSpot and > OpenJDK Members Group [5] and an active jdk9 committer and reviewer. > > The initial committers will be: > Lutz Schmidt (SAP) > Martin Doerr (SAP) > Goetz Lindenmaier (SAP) > Volker Simonis (SAP) > > Votes are due by May 28, 2016, 18:00 CET [6]. > > Only current OpenJDK Members [1] are eligible to vote on this > motion. Votes must be case in the open by replying to to this > mailing list. > > For Lazy Consensus voting instructions, see [2]. > > Volker Simonis > > PS: it's a funny coincidence and hopefully lucky omen that I post this > CFV exactly four years to the day I posted the CFV for the PowerPC/AIX > port :) [7] > > [1] http://openjdk.java.net/census#members > [2] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/#new-project-vote > [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System_z > [4] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/ppc-aix-port/ > [5] http://openjdk.java.net/census#simonis > [6] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=CFV%3A+New+Project%3A+s390x+Port&iso=20160528T18&p1=991 > [7] http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/announce/2012-May/000125.html > From eugene.a.kudryashov at gmail.com Mon May 30 12:06:47 2016 From: eugene.a.kudryashov at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?0JXQstCz0LXQvdC40Lkg0JrRg9C00YDRj9GI0L7Qsg==?=) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 15:06:47 +0300 Subject: Introduction Message-ID: Hello everyone, I want to introduce myself as a new contributer :) So, my name is Eugene. I am a student and completing the bachelor's degree in computer science at Higher School of Economics in Moscow. Java is my favorite language and I want to make it better. In addition, I had some experience working with GCC (ARM) optimizations at Institute for System Programming of the Russian Academy of Sciences. I believe that I can be useful :) Kind regards, Eugene Kudryashov. From ivankrylov.java at gmail.com Tue May 31 05:21:10 2016 From: ivankrylov.java at gmail.com (Ivan Krylov) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 08:21:10 +0300 Subject: Introduction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi ???????, Welcome to OpenJDK group! There is a special group and a mail list called OpenJDK Adoption where you can learn about the how to find information and learn about the areas that you could contribute to. Here is the link http://openjdk.java.net/groups/adoption Welcome, Ivan On 30/05/2016 15:06, ??????? ???????? wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I want to introduce myself as a new contributer :) > > So, my name is Eugene. I am a student and completing the bachelor's degree > in computer science at Higher School of Economics in Moscow. Java is my > favorite language and I want to make it better. In addition, I had some > experience working with GCC (ARM) optimizations at Institute for System > Programming of the Russian Academy of Sciences. > > I believe that I can be useful :) > > Kind regards, > Eugene Kudryashov.