Upcoming project proposal

Marcus Hirt marcus.hirt at oracle.com
Tue Mar 13 17:45:40 UTC 2018


Hi Volker,

Thanks for the kind words!

1. JFR will be open sourced as part of an OpenJDK JEP.

2. Yes. You can, for example, use the JMX console and the JOverflow 
   heap waste analysis tooling (http://hirt.se/blog/?p=854), to mention 
   two of the tools available. That said, JFR is being open sourced too.
 
3. You will be able to very easily build JMC from source using Maven. 
   Oracle will very likely build and ship JMC in a binary form, but I 
   don't think distribution commitments should be part of the project 
   proposal.

Kind regards,
Marcus


On 2018-03-13, 18:33, "Volker Simonis" <volker.simonis at gmail.com> wrote:

    Hi Marcus,
    
    great to see this finally happening!
    
    I have some questions though :)
    
    1. Your proposal mentions JFR several times. Will the JFR
    functionality be open sourced as part of and within the new "Mission
    Control Project" or will it be done within another project (or maybe
    as a separate JEP).
    
    2. Can JMC be used without JFR being available in the OpenJDK?
    
    3. Will JMC become a part of the regular OpenJDK (i.e. will it be
    build together with the OpenJDK and be part of a normal OpenJDK
    images/distribution) or will JMC will be stand-alone project with
    different release cycles. Could you please write some words about this
    in your final project proposal?
    
    Thanks a lot for making this possible and good look with the remaining steps,
    Volker
    
    
    On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 6:13 PM, Marcus Hirt <marcus.hirt at oracle.com> wrote:
    > Hi all,
    >
    > I’m currently in the process of finalizing a project proposal for open
    > sourcing JDK Mission Control (formerly known as Java Mission Control).
    > Please let me know if you have any thoughts or concerns!
    >
    > Here is a draft of the proposal:
    > ---8<---
    > I hereby propose the creation of the Mission Control Project with myself
    > (Marcus Hirt) as the Lead and the HotSpot Group as the sponsoring Group.
    >
    > In accordance with the OpenJDK guidelines [1], this project will provide a
    > home for the continued development of the JDK Mission Control suite of tools,
    > also known as JMC. JMC is a profiling and diagnostics tools suite for the JVM,
    > primarily targeting systems running in production. JMC also provides
    > independent bundles for parsing Java flight recordings, headless analysis of
    > Java flight recordings, and more.
    >
    > We are now open-sourcing JMC to help keep the JVM-based languages in the
    > absolute forefront in terms of production time profiling and diagnostics.
    >
    > Open sourcing the core libraries of JMC enables the Java ecosystem to quickly
    > take advantage of features currently in the process of being open sourced in
    > the JVM, such as the Java Flight Recorder (JFR), across all contemporary
    > versions of Java.
    >
    > Open sourcing the stand alone JMC application will provide the community with
    > a base suite of tooling for advanced JVM features, such as Java Flight
    > Recorder. It will also provide the community with an opportunity to build upon
    > this tooling to, for example, expand the number of IDEs supported, not to
    > mention provide new features and capabilities.
    >
    > I (Marcus Hirt) am a member of the Java Platform Group at Oracle, and I have
    > been working with Java and JVM technology since the early days of Java. I was
    > one of the founders of Appeal Virtual Machines, and the original team leader
    > of Java Mission Control.
    >
    > Many people have made significant contributions to Java Mission Control.
    > Special thanks go out to Klara Ward, Erik Gahlin and Markus Persson who
    > have been around for most of the journey.
    >
    > The initial Reviewers and Committers will be:
    >
    > * Marcus Hirt (Reviewer)
    > * Klara Ward (Reviewer)
    > * Ola Westin (Reviewer)
    > * Henrik Dafgård (Reviewer)
    > * Per Kroon (Reviewer)
    > * Erik Greijus (Reviewer)
    > * Erik Gahlin (Reviewer)
    > * Guru Hb (Committer)
    > * Suchita Chaturvedi (Committer)
    > * Sharath Ballal (Committer)
    >
    > The initial source of this project will be based on the development branch of
    > Mission Control 7. The final development and stabilization of Mission Control 7
    > will take place in the open. Change review policy will be determined by the
    > Lead and a consensus of Reviewers. Review is expected to be relaxed initially,
    > but made more strict as we get closer to the first release.
    >
    > The project will host at least the following mailing list:
    >
    > * jmc-dev for developers
    >
    > Votes are due by 23:59 CET on <day of week>, <month> <day>, 2018.
    >
    > Only current OpenJDK Members [1] are eligible to vote on this motion.
    > Votes must be cast in the open on the discuss list. Replying to this
    > message is sufficient if your mail program honors the Reply-To header.
    >
    > For Lazy Consensus voting instructions, see [2].
    >
    > Kind regards,
    > Marcus Hirt
    >
    > [1] http://openjdk.java.net/census#members
    > [2] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/#new-project-vote
    > ---8<---
    >
    > We’ve been working on the open sourcing for a while now, and if nothing
    > unexpected happens, I plan on posting the project proposal within 6 weeks.
    > Again, please let me know if you have any concerns! Friendly letters of
    > encouragement are welcome too; open sourcing something that has been part
    > of a commercial offering for more than a decade is a bit painful. ;)
    >
    > Kind regards,
    > Marcus
    >
    >
    




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