Proposal: Mailing List Cull

Adam Farley8 adam.farley at uk.ibm.com
Wed Mar 13 12:30:24 UTC 2019


Typo: There are two proposal 4's. Corrected.

- Adam

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(Preface: I may be sending this to the wrong list, so advice on the 
correct list would be appreciated.)

Hey All,

There's a lot of mailing lists here, including a few that've been dead for 

5 years, and I think it's making it hard for contributors to find the 
right list.

Here's a list of mailing lists seeing no/minimal use, and a set of 
proposals to go with them.

Proposal 1: Cull (archive) one or more of these mailing list groups, with 
exceptions made for lists anyone still wants, or actively monitors.
Why? Because having 151 non-archived mailing lists makes it harder for 
people to find the right one. Also makes it easier to find black holes 
(non-monitored lists) to drop valid bugs into.

Proposal 2: Hide the archived mailing lists on the primary "mailing lists" 

view.
Why? Because it dilutes the list of active lists and makes finding the 
right one harder.

Proposal 3: Create a short list of the most useful channels to the casual 
contributor, making it easier to find the primary hotspot, JCL, docs 
lists, etc.
Why? Ease of use. Ability to contribute should be based on knowledge of 
the code base, not knowledge of the mailing lists,

Proposal 4: Hide the mailing lists whose sole purpose is to display 
automated messages when a project has been committed to.

Proposal 5: Make Proposals 2, 3, and 4 the default view when you click on 
"Mailing lists" from the main page.
Why? Ease of use again. One form this could take is: the user clicks on 
"mailing lists" on the primary openjdk page, and sees a minimal list of 
mailing lists, with toggles to show the lists hidden by 2, 3, and 4.

Constructive opinions welcome. :)

Best Regards

Adam Farley 
IBM Runtimes

P.S. Spam and "hep please" don't count as emails.

-- Appendix list:
1: Lists with no emails in 2 years or more. (Dead)
2: Lists with no emails inside the last 6 months. (Presumed Dead)
3: Lists with less than 2 emails (average) per month for the past year 
(Rosebud)

-- Appendix 1: (Dead)
anno-pipeline-dev
btrace-dev
compiler-grammar-dev
cvmi-dev
friday-stats-dev
graphics-rasterizer-dev
guide-discuss
icedtea-changes
java-se-8-spec-comments
java-se-8-spec-experts
java-se-8-spec-observers
java-se-9-spec-comments
java-se-9-spec-experts
java-se-mr-spec-comments
javadoc-next-dev
jep-changes
kona-dev
lambda-libs-spec-comments
lambda-libs-spec-experts
lambda-libs-spec-observers
penrose-dev
penrose-discuss
tiered-attrib-dev
type-annotations-dev
type-annotations-spec-comments
type-annotations-spec-experts
type-annotations-spec-observers
xrender-dev

-- Appendix 2: (Presumed Dead)
detroit-dev
dio-dev
duke-dev
graal-changes
haiku-port-dev
harfbuzz-dev
icedtea-test
java-se-9-spec-observers
java-se-spec-comments
jdk-hs-changes
jmm-dev
nb-projects-dev
nio-discuss
panama-spec-experts
sandbox-changes
sctp-dev
sumatra-dev
valhalla-spec-comments

-- Appendix 3: (Rosebud)
asmtools-dev
caciocavallo-dev
conformance-discuss
doccheck-dev
jmx-dev
jol-dev
lambda-spec-comments
lambda-spec-experts
lambda-spec-observers
macosx-port-dev
metropolis-dev
mips-port
platform-jep-discuss
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