[jvanek at redhat.com: visual vm 1.3.1]

[Jiri Vanek]

On 01/07/2011 10:26 PM, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote:
> [Forwarding to distro-pkg-dev as public items such as releases should be discussed there]
>
> ----- Forwarded message from Jiri Vanek<jvanek at redhat.com>  -----
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> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 15:08:49 +0100
> From: Jiri Vanek<jvanek at redhat.com>
> Subject: visual vm 1.3.1
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> Hi!
> I had prepared visualvm harness 1.1. and uploaded to download/sources
> as 1.0 was used to be.
> I have also updated our package to visualvm to 1.3.1, harness 1.1,
> profiler 6.9-1.
> It is awaiting in testrepo, and will be here, untill way "how with"
> visualvm  will be set.
>
> Regards J.
>
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>
> I don't believe we have even properly discussed a 1.1 release of the
> VisualVM harness yet, let alone made such a release.  Such releases
> need to be discussed on the public list (distro-pkg-dev) so that everyone
> has a chance to give their input.
>
> I have asked, both by e-mail and on IRC, for you to post any patches
> you want for such a release but have only seen one so far
> (http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/distro-pkg-dev/2011-January/011643.html). The
> discussion on https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=640205
> suggests that more changes are needed before we make a new release and
> a quick look at the spec file in Fedora confirmed this to me.
>
> I tried to make some of the necessary changes but found that my work
> was being ignored by the Fedora build as it was downloading a 1.1
> tarball.  This seems to have been published to the IcedTea server
> without any discussion.  I'm afraid I've had to remove this in order
> to proceed with work on VisualVM.  Apologies to anyone who may have
> been depending on it, but it doesn't seem to have been announced
> anywhere.
>
> We provide the VisualVM harness as an upstream project so that all
> distributions can benefit.  Thus, where possible, we expect changes
> to be pushed to the harness rather than being kept locally in the
> distribution packages so that more people can benefit.  At present,
> the Fedora spec file for VisualVM seems to have several modifications
> (patches and the movement of installed files) which can be upstreamed
> for the benefit of all, and I would like to see these in the repository
> before any further releases are made.
>
> Additionally, when submitting patches for review, please attach them
> to an e-mail describing fully the motivation for it with a ChangeLog
> entry.  It is very hard to review a patch if we don't know why it is
> being submitted in the first place or what it does.
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Andrew :)
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This is little bit unfair. When vm 1.3  was "released", we agreed that 
You will do the changes in harness according to specfile, because you 
wrote the harness. Also was sugested to dont release 1.3 until 1.3.1 
will be build - probably with new harness. 1.3.1 Is available more then 
2months. So why to wait when everything is prepared? I have asked you 
several times if things are moving. They didn't:(. At least my rash 
action moved them.

My apologise for uploading 1.1 to download/sources. I underestimate its 
full purpose as distribution channel. I should at least name it pre or 
work off-line at all.  Also I'm sorry for not to notice distro-pkg. I 
informed only java-team as I'm used to. Although I consider most of 
things as misscommuncation, I apologise..."road to hell is paved with 
good intentions."

Regards J.