If Icedtea-web is the plug-in component for OpenJDK upstream, its name should be openjdk-plugin !

[Andrew Haley]

On 04/15/2012 08:27 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 16:12, Florian Weimer <fw at deneb.enyo.de> wrote:
>> There's a plan to make running browser plugins slightly more
>> difficult: <https://wiki.mozilla.org/Opt-in_activation_for_plugins>
>>
>> Similarly, Microsoft has added a warning to prevent unattended
>> launching of XBAPs.
> 
> Yes, but AFAIK it doesn't extend to making the technologies harder to
> install or to find.
> 
> To enforce that would be a job/problem of the browser.
> 
> Again, my point is making people who install OpenJDK easier to
> find/install the plug-in that goes along with it.
> 
> yum install openjdk7
> currently installs openjdk, but not the plug-in that goes along with
> it (Icedtea)
> whereas if there was a package name-alias (I'm not sure if alias if
> the current term, I suspect so) for Icedtea that matches
> openjdk-plugin, then
> a user typing
> 
> yum install openjdk7*
> 
> ...would automagically pick up OpenJDK, and the plug-in that goes
> along with it, bacause yum would pick up openjdk7, and openjdk7-plugin
> (IcedTea).

Do people do this very often?  I would have thought that people usually
pick packages from a list.

> Of course, in this conservative approach, those who type only "yum
> install openjdk" would get just the OpenJDK and not IcedTea, just as
> happens right now. But the openjdk-plugin alias name to Icedtea would
> greatly increase its visibility, *IMHO*

I don't know that it would.

I don't disagree that it would be much better if it were easier to find
the plugin.  I think it would be best if the browser told people how to
do it.  I'm not convinced that simply calling the plugin openjdk-plugin
would make it easier for many users.  But I am open to persuasion.

Andrew.