[rfc][icedtea-web] headless dialogues -tech preview

Andrew Azores aazores at redhat.com
Mon Jun 15 16:01:19 UTC 2015


On 15/06/15 11:53 AM, Jiri Vanek wrote:
> On 06/15/2015 05:50 PM, Andrew Azores wrote:
>> On 15/06/15 11:48 AM, Jiri Vanek wrote:
>>> On 06/15/2015 05:36 PM, Andrew Azores wrote:
>>>> On 15/06/15 11:21 AM, Jiri Vanek wrote:
>>>>> On 06/15/2015 04:59 PM, Andrew Azores wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 14/06/15 02:04 PM, Jiri Vanek wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi!
>>> ...
>>>>> and - most important - headless ITW will not be run by average 
>>>>> user :)
>>>>
>>>> I really think it's worthwhile to take the "better message" 
>>>> approach rather than directly presenting
>>>> the user with a stacktrace. If you wish then you can proceed how 
>>>> you are now and I will work on
>>>> improving this later.
>>>
>>> I do not promise I will improve it in some close future.But I 
>>> currently don't have simple solution
>>> for (definitely best) "help+suggested values, pass/better message"
>>>
>>> If you came up with anything, please  do! If I wil comep with 
>>> anything. I will definitively fix!
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Type 'exit' to terminate ITW one f below values:
>>>> ...
>>>>>> blocker for this patch.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is not bug, its an feature!-)
>>>>>
>>>>> You can see how this text is composed? Also do you realize target 
>>>>> audience of this patch?  Also
>>>>> have you seen big comment " //this is default SecurityDialog 
>>>>> "toString". All extending panels are
>>>>> recommanded to override " ?
>>>>>
>>>>> So this method is providing some *good* default text. (in v2 the 
>>>>> removal of html tags was much
>>>>> improved.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, the HTML tag removal does look much better now, although I'd 
>>>> still personally like to see it
>>>> cleaned up further. Still, this is better now. But I do think that 
>>>> duplicating everything is not
>>>> very nice. Sure the target audience is not the average end user but 
>>>> "YesYes\nNoNo" is going to give
>>>> the more advanced user target audience the impression that this 
>>>> feature wasn't really polished
>>>> before release, no?
>>>
>>> Does it need to be? The headless dialogues have to be making working 
>>> again, or -headless have to
>>> be dropped. As I'm wring below. Feel free to override my stub method 
>>> below with proper texts. I'm
>>> not going to do so. The changeset is well prepared for making it nicer.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The providing of texts for exactly those messages will be work for 
>>>>> another changesets. MAybe for
>>>>> another person...
>>>>>
>>>>> Well - the headless dialogues are now completly broken, so 
>>>>> *anything* is better then current state.
>>>>
>>>> True, but if something's worth doing then it's worth doing 
>>>> correctly, right?
>>>
>>> Form point of this patch (which adds logic) it is really small 
>>> nitpick to provide better texts.
>>> Feel free to add them on your own as another changeset...
>>>
>>> Or wait if somebody will help with it.
>>>
>>> Some of ITW's less used partsare in terrible shape. I need to make 
>>> tehm work, so they canbe
>>> maintained without confusions. Once those are done. I will be 
>>> finally free to quit.
>>>
>>> So I do not wont to provide cool headless dialogues. I wont to 
>>> remove duplicate code, and make ti
>>> work.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, here's another bug for you:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Type 'exit' to terminate ITW one f below values:
>>>>>>> [YES, NO]
>>>>>>> netx: Initialization Error: Could not initialize applet. (Your 
>>>>>>> Extended applets security is at
>>>>>
>>>>> yes I'm aware of it. I fixed it in v2. Bad typo on last second 
>>>>> before posting :(
>>>>
>>>> "Type exit to terminate ITW one of below values" still doesn't 
>>>> quite make sense.
>>>>
>>>> "Type exit to terminate ITW, or type one of the below values" would 
>>>> be a fixed-up version of the
>>>> same message you have now.
>>>
>>>
>>> Type "exit" to terminate ITW, or type one of the below values
>>>
>>> Sure! Thanx!
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> 'high' and this application is missing the 'permissions' 
>>>>>>> attribute in manifest. And you have
>>>>>>> refused to run it.)
>>>>>>> netx: Initialization Error: Could not initialize applet. (Your 
>>>>>>> Extended applets security is at
>>>>>>> 'high' and this application is missing the 'permissions' 
>>>>>>> attribute in manifest. And you have
>>>>>>> refused to run it.)
>>>>>>> net.sourceforge.jnlp.LaunchException: Fatal: Initialization 
>>>>>>> Error: Could not initialize applet.
>>>>>>> For more information click "more information button".
>>>>>>>     at 
>>>>>>> net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.createApplet(Launcher.java:764)
>>>>>>>     at 
>>>>>>> net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.launchApplet(Launcher.java:653)
>>>>>>>     at 
>>>>>>> net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher$TgThread.run(Launcher.java:939)
>>>>>>> Caused by: net.sourceforge.jnlp.LaunchException: Your Extended 
>>>>>>> applets security is at 'high' and
>>>>>>> this application is missing the 'permissions' attribute in 
>>>>>>> manifest. And you have refused to run
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>     at
>>>>>>> net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.ManifestAttributesChecker.checkPermissionsAttribute(ManifestAttributesChecker.java:279) 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     at
>>>>>>> net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.ManifestAttributesChecker.checkAll(ManifestAttributesChecker.java:114) 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     at 
>>>>>>> net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.initializeResources(JNLPClassLoader.java:777)
>>>>>>>     at 
>>>>>>> net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.<init>(JNLPClassLoader.java:285)
>>>>>>>     at 
>>>>>>> net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.createInstance(JNLPClassLoader.java:357)
>>>>>>>     at 
>>>>>>> net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.getInstance(JNLPClassLoader.java:429)
>>>>>>>     at 
>>>>>>> net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.getInstance(JNLPClassLoader.java:403)
>>>>>>>     at 
>>>>>>> net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.createApplet(Launcher.java:729)
>>>>>>>     ... 2 more
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I typed "Control-D"/EOF character for this. At this point it 
>>>>>> seems ITW is hanging.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Atatched v2 again.
>>>>
>>>> EOF char for input still hangs it.
>>>
>>> When? What? how? How may I reproduce it?
>>
>> Wait for the "type one of the below values" prompt and then press 
>> Control-D.
>
> Oh Yah!
>
> Nice catch:) The "if s == null" is missing.
>
> Do you agree on  return defaultNEgativeAnswer and unlock?

Sounds about right. To me, Ctrl-D in a "shell" sort of program is 
synonymous with an exit command, but using negative answer here sounds 
fine, too.

>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanx!
>>>>>
>>>>>   J.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
Thanks,

Andrew Azores



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