CFV: New Group: IDE & Tooling Support

[mark.reinhold at oracle.com]

// Forwarding John Duimovich’s vote for the record.
// His HTML-only e-mail message was rejected by the mail system.

2019/11/15 7:16:13 -0800, john_duimovich at ca.ibm.com:
> From: John Duimovich <john_duimovich at ca.ibm.com>
> To: mark.reinhold at oracle.com
> Cc: gb-discuss at openjdk.java.net, maurizio.cimadamore at oracle.com
> Subject: Re: CFV: New Group: IDE & Tooling Support
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> Date: Fri 2019/11/15 07:16:13 -0800
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> 
> Vote: yes
> 
> John
>      ----- Original message -----
>      From: mark.reinhold at oracle.com
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>      To: gb-discuss at openjdk.java.net
>      Cc: maurizio.cimadamore at oracle.com
>      Subject: [EXTERNAL] CFV: New Group: IDE & Tooling Support
>      Date: Fri, Nov 8, 2019 5:30 PM
>      
>      On behalf of Maurizio Cimadamore I hereby propose creation of
>      the
>      "IDE & Tooling Support" Group, with Maurizio as the initial
>      Lead.
> 
>      Maurizio’s proposal:
> 
>      At the last OpenJDK Committer Workshop in Brussels, we
>      agreed to set
>      up some channel in which to discuss issues related to
>      OpenJDK tooling
>      and, more specifically, IDE support. We already have pretty
>      comprehensive support for OpenJDK development in both
>      IntelliJ and
>      Netbeans, but the main, long standing problem has been one
>      of lack of
>      adequate communication and coordination between these
>      various efforts,
>      which often led (frustrated) developers to the path of "I'll
>      write my
>      own support".
> 
>      The goal of this group is, first and foremost, to
>      extensively document
>      the alternatives that are already available at present, as
>      well as to
>      capture discussions related to tooling support which are
>      currently
>      scattered among many mailing list (compiler-dev, jtreg-dev,
>      build-dev). After some discussion [3], it feels like
>      proposing a
>      group is the right thing to do because: (i) a group
>      automatically gets
>      a mailing list and a page on openjdk.java.net -- which can
>      be useful
>      for communicating within the group and also for publishing
>      the much
>      needed documentation; also (ii) a group is not tied to any
>      specific
>      set of deliverables (unlike, say, an OpenJDK Project), which
>      feels
>      right in this case, as IDE support is likely to be a
>      recurring
>      activity.
> 
>      We want the OpenJDK Community to be a welcoming place for
>      developers,
>      and I feel that improving IDE/tooling support plays a
>      crucial role in
>      reducing the activation energy required to start hacking on
>      the JDK
>      codebase.
> 
>      I'm proposing to lead the Group given the extensive work
>      I've done in
>      the area of improving the usability of various IDE products
>      for JDK
>      development. I've started this work 10 years ago by adding
>      support
>      for a standalone project to work on langtools with the
>      Netbeans IDE;
>      this work then continued when I created, together with Chris
>      Hegarty,
>      a way to generate JDK-wide IntelliJ projects, given a set of
>      JDK
>      modules the developer wants to work with. Finally, I've also
>      behind
>      the effort to improve the support for jtreg inside the
>      Intellij IDE.
> 
>      I propose the following list of initial members:
> 
>      Chris Hegarty (Oracle)
>      Jan Lahoda (Oracle)
>      Jonathan Gibbons (Oracle)
>      Robin Westberg (Oracle)
>      Magnus Ihse Bursie (Oracle)
> 
>      Only current Governing Board Members[1] are eligible to vote
>      on this
>      motion. Votes must be cast in the open by replying to this
>      mailing
>      list.
> 
>      Votes are due by 23:00 UTC next Friday, 15 November.
> 
>      For Simple Majority voting instructions, see [2].
> 
>      My apologies for the long delay in forwarding this proposal.
> 
>      - Mark
> 
>      [1] http://openjdk.java.net/census#gb
>      [2] http://openjdk.java.net/groups/#new-group-vote
>      [3] https://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/discuss/2019-
>      March/004983.html