Graal and Clojure

Eric Caspole eric.caspole at amd.com
Mon Mar 17 22:20:34 UTC 2014


Hi everybody,
I was setting up a new HSA system today and I installed Clumatra and got 
it working under the simulator. I have a real HSA system not too 
different from this:

http://code.google.com/p/aparapi/wiki/SettingUpLinuxHSAMachineForAparapi

In the clojure/lein/maven based system there is so much harness I can't 
immediately see how to switch in the real hardware version of Okra 
instead of the simulator Okra that gets installed into maven and 
exploded in /tmp when the tests run.

Jules, could you show how to bypass the harness etc to switch the Okra? 
Can I just run 1 test with a simple java command line? This makes it a 
lot easier to use a debugger which I will definitely want to do.

Otherwise this is a cool project and we already found 1 or 2 issues we 
can fix in HSAIL Graal related to your clojure tests.
Regards,
Eric



On 03/17/2014 06:43 AM, Doug Simon wrote:
> Hi Julian,
>
> In terms of what to test, I’ll leave it up to the Sumatra developers at AMD and Oracle to comment on what may be interesting.
>
> As far as I know, no one in the Graal team is that familiar with Clojure. This actually makes the value of having Clojure tests integrated into our gate system somewhat problematic - debugging/fixing failures may be difficult. I’d suggest you report failures your discover on the sumatra-dev and graal-dev lists and we can resolve them that way for now.
>
> In addition, for Graal we’re always interested in benchmark suites for JVM hosted languages. Can you recommend any well known and trusted Clojure benchmarks we should consider?
>
> -Doug
>
> On Mar 17, 2014, at 12:35 AM, Jules Gosnell <jules_gosnell at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Doug,
>>
>> Sorry it has taken me a while to get back - I've been busy playing with code.
>>
>> I currently have a small clojure testsuite up and running. I plan to broaden this and then think about providing it in a junit-compatible way to your project.
>>
>> I still haven't made up my mind exactly what I should be testing. It seems unnecessary to duplicate all your tests in Clojure, since you are already guarding against regression in these areas - I think I will start out with a fairly general set of tests as I probe for particular problem areas for Clojure, into which I may dive for more detail - time will tell... if you have any ideas, please let me know.
>>
>> I've checked my stuff in at github, if anyone is interested - here is the project:
>>
>> https://github.com/JulesGosnell/clumatra
>>
>> here is some clojure that I reverse engineered from GraalKernelTester:
>>
>> https://github.com/JulesGosnell/clumatra/blob/master/src/clumatra/core.clj
>>
>> and here are the first successful tests:
>>
>> https://github.com/JulesGosnell/clumatra/blob/master/test/clumatra/core_test.clj
>>
>> not very pretty yet - I am still feeling my way.
>>
>> cheers
>>
>>
>> Jules
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 06/03/14 10:24, Doug Simon wrote:
>>> Hi Julian,
>>>
>>> This looks very interesting and will be an good alternative testing vector for the Sumatra work as it matures. If Clojure tests can somehow be made to run from Junit, then I’m sure we can try integrating it into our testing.
>>>
>>> -Doug
>>>
>>> On Mar 6, 2014, at 12:56 AM, Julian Gosnell <jules_gosnell at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Guys,
>>>>
>>>> I just built the Java8 / Graal / Okra stack and managed to run some very simple Clojure copying the contents of one int array into another one on Okra.
>>>>
>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/clojure/JpjK__NTR5Y
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I find the ramifications of this very exciting :-)
>>>>
>>>> I understand that fn-ality is limited at the moment - but I am keen to keep testing and to help ensure early visibility of Clojure related issues to both communities - perhaps even the submission of a Clojure testsuite if Graal developers thought that useful.
>>>>
>>>> I'd be very interested in your thoughts on Graal / Clojure.
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jules
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>



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