Is graal VM going to be part of a future JDK release?

Thomas Wuerthinger thomas.wuerthinger at oracle.com
Fri Mar 13 16:11:15 UTC 2015


Sure! We will include a version for Windows x64. - thomas

> On 13 Mar 2015, at 17:00, Anthony Vanelverdinghe <anthony.vanelverdinghe at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Thomas
> 
> Will the next OTN release also contain a version for Windows x64 please? I just noticed in Chris' message [1] that there are actually already Windows builds available (though not for the latest version) at http://lafo.ssw.uni-linz.ac.at/builds <http://lafo.ssw.uni-linz.ac.at/builds>.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Anthony
> 
> [1] http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/graal-dev/2015-March/002967.html <http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/graal-dev/2015-March/002967.html>
> 
> 
> On 13/03/2015 16:29, Thomas Wuerthinger wrote:
>> Vitaly,
>> 
>> Graal has a very different design from C2 and therefore it has distinct performance characteristics. We invite developers to try our latest OTN release [1] on their applications and give us feedback.
>> 
>> The largest three distinguishing factors are:
>> a) Guard optimizations for efficient handling of speculative code - this has its biggest impact on the JavaScript, Ruby [2], and R [3] implementations built on Graal’s multi-language framework Truffle.
>> b) Partial escape analysis to reduce object allocations even if the object escapes on some paths.
>> c) Improved inlining strategy that explores the call tree and performs late inlining as default instead of inlining during bytecode parsing.
>> 
>> We expect to publish a new improved version of Graal in another OTN release in the next couple of months.
>> 
>> Regards, thomas
>> 
>> [1] http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/oracle-labs/program-languages/overview/index-2301583.html <http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/oracle-labs/program-languages/overview/index-2301583.html> <http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/oracle-labs/program-languages/overview/index-2301583.html <http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/oracle-labs/program-languages/overview/index-2301583.html>>
>> [2] https://github.com/jruby/jruby/wiki/Truffle <https://github.com/jruby/jruby/wiki/Truffle> <https://github.com/jruby/jruby/wiki/Truffle <https://github.com/jruby/jruby/wiki/Truffle>>
>> [3] https://bitbucket.org/allr/fastr <https://bitbucket.org/allr/fastr> <https://bitbucket.org/allr/fastr <https://bitbucket.org/allr/fastr>>
>>> On 13 Mar 2015, at 16:01, Vitaly Davidovich <vitalyd at gmail.com <mailto:vitalyd at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Chris (or anyone else really),
>>> 
>>> Are there any optimizations that graal does better (or at all) than
>>> Hotspot's C2? I know it has flow sensitive EA - are there other things?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> sent from my phone
>>> On Mar 13, 2015 9:53 AM, "Chris Seaton" <chris.seaton at oracle.com <mailto:chris.seaton at oracle.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Bráulio,
>>>> 
>>>> There’s no specific date yet of when Graal might be integrated into
>>>> OpenJDK.
>>>> 
>>>> You can of course install a binary build of GraalVM, which isn’t much
>>>> different from installing an OpenJDK build
>>>> http://lafo.ssw.uni-linz.ac.at/builds <http://lafo.ssw.uni-linz.ac.at/builds> <
>>>> http://lafo.ssw.uni-linz.ac.at/builds <http://lafo.ssw.uni-linz.ac.at/builds>>. For the specific use case of
>>>> JRuby, the ruby-build plugin to rbenv can already install JRuby+Truffle,
>>>> with GraalVM bundled so all you have to do is run ‘run’ and you’ll get
>>>> Graal.
>>>> 
>>>> $ rbenv install jruby-9.0.0.0+graal-dev
>>>> $ rbenv shell jruby-9.0.0.0+graal-dev
>>>> $ ruby -X+T -e 'puts Truffle.graal?'
>>>> true
>>>> 
>>>> I think you can do something similar in RVM but not sure of the specifics
>>>> at the moment.
>>>> 
>>>> If you are interested in JRuby+Truffle, join us in #jruby on Freenode IRC.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Chris
>>>> 
>>>>> On 13 Mar 2015, at 00:45, Bráulio Bhavamitra <brauliobo at gmail.com <mailto:brauliobo at gmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sorry for asking this out of my anxiety...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Having seen the incredible results when using the Graal VM with JRuby
>>>>> Truffle, I wonder if and when Graal code will be merged into OpenJDK
>>>>> mainline. Is there a roadmap or it is not going to happen soon (next
>>>> years)?
>>>>> cheers,
>>>>> bráulio
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> "Lute pela sua ideologia. Seja um com sua ideologia. Viva pela sua
>>>>> ideologia. Morra por sua ideologia" P.R. Sarkar
>>>>> 
>>>>> EITA - Educação, Informação e Tecnologias para Autogestão
>>>>> http://cirandas.net/brauliobo
>>>>> http://eita.org.br
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Paramapurusha é meu pai e Parama Prakriti é minha mãe. O universo é meu
>>>>> lar e todos nós somos cidadãos deste cosmo. Este universo é a imaginação
>>>> da
>>>>> Mente Macrocósmica, e todas as entidades estão sendo criadas,
>>>> preservadas e
>>>>> destruídas nas fases de extroversão e introversão do fluxo imaginativo
>>>>> cósmico. No âmbito pessoal, quando uma pessoa imagina algo em sua mente,
>>>>> naquele momento, essa pessoa é a única proprietária daquilo que ela
>>>>> imagina, e ninguém mais. Quando um ser humano criado mentalmente caminha
>>>>> por um milharal também imaginado, a pessoa imaginada não é a propriedade
>>>>> desse milharal, pois ele pertence ao indivíduo que o está imaginando.
>>>> Este
>>>>> universo foi criado na imaginação de Brahma, a Entidade Suprema, por isso
>>>>> a propriedade deste universo é de Brahma, e não dos microcosmos que
>>>> também
>>>>> foram criados pela imaginação de Brahma. Nenhuma propriedade deste mundo,
>>>>> mutável ou imutável, pertence a um indivíduo em particular; tudo é o
>>>>> patrimônio comum de todos."
>>>>> Restante do texto em
>>>>> http://cirandas.net/brauliobo/blog/a-problematica-de-hoje-em-dia



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