Implicit null-check in hot-loop?
Vitaly Davidovich
vitalyd at gmail.com
Fri May 29 17:48:47 UTC 2015
Hi Vladimir,
Given java has no unsigned long, wouldn't this be somewhat straightforward
to test? I agree that it's unlikely to be worth it given most loops are int.
Thanks
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Vladimir Kozlov <vladimir.kozlov at oracle.com
> wrote:
> There is reason. We do long arithmetic to prove that int index will not
> overflow in canonical (counted) loops but we can't do that cheaply for long
> index. And 99% of loops use int index - so we don't want to spend code on
> edge case.
>
> Regards,
> Vladimir
>
>
> On 5/27/15 5:25 AM, Vitaly Davidovich wrote:
>
>> I don't think there's any fundamental reason, it's just that int loops
>> are more common and so were optimized.
>>
>> sent from my phone
>>
>> On May 27, 2015 8:09 AM, "Benedikt Wedenik" <
>> benedikt.wedenik at theobroma-systems.com
>> <mailto:benedikt.wedenik at theobroma-systems.com>> wrote:
>>
>> First of all, thanks for your quick response :)
>> You were absolutely right - but I do not understand why the long
>> counter was the problem.
>>
>> Is there any reason why the loop-unrolling is only available for int
>> loops?
>> I mean I guess so - because else it would probably be implemented
>> already.
>> But still it would be a nice opportunity for an optimisation :)
>>
>> Benedikt.
>> On 27 May 2015, at 13:44, Vitaly Davidovich <vitalyd at gmail.com
>> <mailto:vitalyd at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Also, the safepoint check on each iteration should go away when
>>> using an int loop; it'll be coalesced into once
>>> per unroll factor or may go away entirely if the loop turns into a
>>> counted loop.
>>>
>>> sent from my phone
>>>
>>> On May 27, 2015 7:39 AM, "Vitaly Davidovich" <vitalyd at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:vitalyd at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Cause you're using a long as induction variable; change to int
>>> and it should unroll.
>>>
>>> sent from my phone
>>>
>>> On May 27, 2015 6:46 AM, "Benedikt Wedenik" <
>>> benedikt.wedenik at theobroma-systems.com
>>> <mailto:benedikt.wedenik at theobroma-systems.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh!
>>>
>>> Thanks :) So then it's not so bad, cause it is (I guess)
>>> obligatory.
>>>
>>> Do you have any idea why this loop does not get unrolled?
>>>
>>> Benedikt.
>>>
>>> On 27 May 2015, at 12:36, Andrew Haley <aph at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:aph at redhat.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > On 05/27/2015 11:27 AM, Benedikt Wedenik wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> In the hot-loop there is this “ldr” which looked a little
>>> “strange” at the first glance.
>>> >> I think that this load is a null-check? Is that the case?
>>> >
>>> > No. It's a safepoint check. HotSpot has to insert one of
>>> these because
>>> > it can't prove that the loop is reasonably short-lived.
>>> >
>>> >> I also investigated the generated code on x86 which is
>>> quite similar, but instead of a load, they are
>>> >> using the “test”-instruction which performs an “and” but
>>> only sets the flags discarding the result.
>>> >> Is there any similar instruction available on aarch64 or
>>> is this already the closest solution?
>>> >
>>> > Closest to what? A load to XZR is the best solution: it
>>> does not hit
>>> > the flags. x86 cannot do this.
>>> >
>>> > It looks like great code.
>>> >
>>> > Andrew.
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
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