RFR (S): JEP-142: Reduce Cache Contention on Specified Fields

[Vitaly Davidovich]

I don't see what burying this in sun.misc really accomplishes.  Look at
Unsafe - it's still widely used except have to jump through reflection
hoops.  Also, sun.misc is apparently going away in java 9.

I also don't understand the reasoning behind trying to "prevent people from
shooting themselves in the foot" - we should consider java developers as
responsible adults.  Nobody is forcing anyone to use this annotation.
Otherwise, we should throw out GC tuning knobs, JIT tuning knobs,
weak/soft/phantom refs, finalizers, thread locals, direct byte buffers,
etc.  This entire "java devs are too immature/dumb/irresponsible/etc"
sentiment is ridiculous, IMHO.

By the way, if you think only Doug/Cliff Click/etc are using Unsafe, then
don't tell Cassandra/Hbase developers :).  Cassandra goes as far as using
pluggable C heap allocators (accessed via Unsafe behind the scenes) to
allocate off-heap memory - this is in addition to using unsafe comparators
for byte arrays, and other "tricks".  That's the price of admission when
trying to squeeze perf ...

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On Nov 26, 2012 2:19 PM, "Kirk Pepperdine" <kirk at kodewerk.com> wrote:

> Actually, sun.misc.Contended right beside sun.misc.Unsafe doesn't sound
> like such a bad idea.
>
> -- Kirk
>
> On 2012-11-26, at 8:08 PM, Doug Lea <dl at cs.oswego.edu> wrote:
>
> > On 11/26/12 13:40, Aleksey Shipilev wrote:
> >> On 11/26/2012 09:35 PM, Remi Forax wrote:
> >>> On 11/26/2012 05:44 PM, Aleksey Shipilev wrote:
> >>>> On 11/26/2012 08:22 PM, Doug Lea wrote:
> >>>>> One small suggestion to slightly appease the nanny-state folks.
> >>>>> How about burying the annotation one lever deeper to
> >>>>> java.util.concurrent.atomic.
> >>>
> >>> +1
> >>>
> >>
> >> Still fail to see the rationale about this.
> >
> > All things considered, I'm back to agreeing with you --
> > Just j.u.c.Contended
> >
> >>
> >>> I think you should re-write the javadoc ...
> >
> > The Contended.java file and its javadoc in Aleksey's webrev is just a
> > placeholder to get things moving. We expect to solicit
> > reviews in the usual way (mainly on concurrency-interest list)
> > for a version that will make it into JDK8.
> >
> >>
> >> I.e.
> >>
> >>     @Contended
> >>     public class ValueClass {
> >>          private int field1;
> >>          private int field2;
> >>          private int field3;
> >>          private int field4;
> >>     }
> >>
> >> is the shortcut for:
> >>
> >>     public class ValueClass {
> >>          @Contended("theSame") private int field1;
> >>          @Contended("theSame") private int field2;
> >>          @Contended("theSame") private int field3;
> >>          @Contended("theSame") private int field4;
> >>     }
> >>
> >> That is, all the fields would be densely-packed, but will be padded as
> >> the group. Note that it is not the same as:
> >>
> >>     public class ValueClass {
> >>          @Contended private int field1;
> >>          @Contended private int field2;
> >>          @Contended private int field3;
> >>          @Contended private int field4;
> >>     }
> >>
> >> Maybe that is already confusing enough to drop class-level annotation?
> >> What do others feel about this?
> >
> > I think that the most common and most-recommended case will be
> class-level,
> > so it should be kept. We can work on the usage advice in the javadocs.
> >
> > -Doug
> >
> >
>
>