Proposal: Allowing selective pushes to hotspot without jprt
Volker Simonis
volker.simonis at gmail.com
Tue Nov 18 10:03:05 UTC 2014
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Mikael Vidstedt
<mikael.vidstedt at oracle.com> wrote:
>
> On 2014-11-07 14:12, Volker Simonis wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Mikael Vidstedt
>> <mikael.vidstedt at oracle.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Volker,
>>>
>>> Thanks for reminding me, this totally slipped my mind.
>>>
>>> I think it's fair to say say we've given this enough time for feedback,
>>> and
>>> that the feedback has been all supportive. With that in mind I consider
>>> the
>>> proposal approved and effective immediately!
>>>
>> OK great. So does this mean we can now push reviewed changes to the
>> ppc/aix subdirs right away?
>
>
> That is indeed the idea - modulo the "if at review code review time a change
> is for some reason deemed to be risky and/or otherwise have impact on shared
> files" part which, again, hopefully is rare.
>
You're right - it works!
I've just pushed my first AIX-only change to hotspot-rt!
Thanks,
Volker
> Cheers,
> Mikael
>
>
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Mikael
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2014-11-06 15:35, Volker Simonis wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mikael,
>>>>
>>>> just wanted to ask what's the status of this project?
>>>> I hope it was not just a JavaOne hoax :)
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Volker
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Volker Simonis
>>>> <volker.simonis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Mikael, that sounds good!
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Volker
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Mikael Vidstedt
>>>>> <mikael.vidstedt at oracle.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Volker,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The proposal is only to change how the changes are pushed, not which
>>>>>> forests
>>>>>> changes can be pushed to. That is, we would still require hotspot
>>>>>> changes to
>>>>>> be pushed to one of the group repositories (jdk9/hs-{comp,gc,rt}) or
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> jdk8u/hs-dev forest (jdk8u), but I propose that the relaxation be
>>>>>> applied on
>>>>>> all those (four) forests. Reasonable?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Mikael
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2014-09-12 11:38, Volker Simonis wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Mikael,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> there's one more question that came to my mind: will the new rule
>>>>>>> apply to all hotspot respitories (i.e. jdk9/hs-rt/hotspot,
>>>>>>> jdk9/hs-comp/hotspot, jdk9/hs-gc/hotspot, jdk9/hs-hs/hotspot AND
>>>>>>> jdk8u/jdk8u-dev/hotspot, jdk8u/hs-dev/hotspot) ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Volker
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Mikael Vidstedt
>>>>>>> <mikael.vidstedt at oracle.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Andrew/Volker,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the positive feedback. The goal of the proposal is to
>>>>>>>> simplify
>>>>>>>> pushing changes which are effectively not tested by the jprt system
>>>>>>>> anyway.
>>>>>>>> The proposed relaxation would not affect work on other
>>>>>>>> infrastructure
>>>>>>>> projects in any relevant way, but would hopefully improve all our
>>>>>>>> lives
>>>>>>>> significantly immediately.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Mikael
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2014-09-10 01:45, Volker Simonis wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Mikael,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thanks a lot for this proposal. I think this will dramatically
>>>>>>>>> simplify our work to keep our ports up to date! So I fully support
>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nevertheless, I think this can only be a first step towards fully
>>>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>>>> the JPRT system to developers outside Oracle. With "opening" I mean
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> allow OpenJDK commiters from outside Oracle to submit and run JPRT
>>>>>>>>> jobs as well as allowing porting projects to add hardware which
>>>>>>>>> builds
>>>>>>>>> and tests the HotSpot on alternative platforms.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So while I'm all in favor of your proposal I hope you can allay my
>>>>>>>>> doubts that this simplification will hopefully not push the
>>>>>>>>> realization of a truly OPEN JPRT system even further away.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Volker
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 11:24 PM, Mikael Vidstedt
>>>>>>>>> <mikael.vidstedt at oracle.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Made up primarily of low level C++ code, the Hotspot codebase is
>>>>>>>>>> highly
>>>>>>>>>> platform dependent and also tightly coupled with the tool chains
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> various platforms. Each platform/tool chain combination has its
>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> special quirks, and code must be implemented in a way such that it
>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>> relies on the common subset of syntax and functionality across all
>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>> combinations. History has taught us that even simple changes can
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> surprising results when compiled with different compilers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For more than a decade the Hotspot team has ensured a minimum
>>>>>>>>>> quality
>>>>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>>>>> by requiring all pushes to be done through a build and test system
>>>>>>>>>> (jprt)
>>>>>>>>>> which guarantees that the code resulting from applying a set of
>>>>>>>>>> changes
>>>>>>>>>> builds on a set of core platforms and that a set of core tests
>>>>>>>>>> pass.
>>>>>>>>>> Only
>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>> all the builds and tests pass will the changes actually be pushed
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> target repository.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We believe that testing like the above, in combination with later
>>>>>>>>>> stages
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> testing, is vital to ensuring that the quality level of the
>>>>>>>>>> Hotspot
>>>>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>>>> remains high and that developers do not run into situations where
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> latest
>>>>>>>>>> version has build errors on some platforms.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Recently the AIX/PPC port was added to the set of OpenJDK
>>>>>>>>>> platforms.
>>>>>>>>>> From
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> Hotspot perspective this new platform added a set of AIX/PPC
>>>>>>>>>> specific
>>>>>>>>>> files
>>>>>>>>>> including some platform specific changes to shared code. The
>>>>>>>>>> AIX/PPC
>>>>>>>>>> platform is not tested by Oracle as part of Hotspot push jobs. The
>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>> thing applies for the shark and zero versions of Hotspot.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> While Hotspot developers remain committed to making sure changes
>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>> developed in a way such that the quality level remains high across
>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>> platforms and variants, because of the above mentioned
>>>>>>>>>> complexities
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> inevitable that from time to time changes will be made which
>>>>>>>>>> introduce
>>>>>>>>>> issues on specific platforms or tool chains not part of the core
>>>>>>>>>> testing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To allow these issues to be resolved more quickly I would like to
>>>>>>>>>> propose
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> relaxation in the requirements on how changes to Hotspot are
>>>>>>>>>> pushed.
>>>>>>>>>> Specifically I would like to allow for direct pushes to the
>>>>>>>>>> hotspot/
>>>>>>>>>> repository of files specific to the following
>>>>>>>>>> ports/variants/tools:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * AIX
>>>>>>>>>> * PPC
>>>>>>>>>> * Shark
>>>>>>>>>> * Zero
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Today this translates into the following files:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - src/cpu/ppc/**
>>>>>>>>>> - src/cpu/zero/**
>>>>>>>>>> - src/os/aix/**
>>>>>>>>>> - src/os_cpu/aix_ppc/**
>>>>>>>>>> - src/os_cpu/bsd_zero/**
>>>>>>>>>> - src/os_cpu/linux_ppc/**
>>>>>>>>>> - src/os_cpu/linux_zero/**
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Note that all changes are still required to go through the normal
>>>>>>>>>> development and review cycle; the proposed relaxation only applies
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>> the changes are pushed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If at code review time a change is for some reason deemed to be
>>>>>>>>>> risky
>>>>>>>>>> and/or
>>>>>>>>>> otherwise have impact on shared files the reviewer may request
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> change to go through the regular push testing. For changes only
>>>>>>>>>> touching
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> above set of files this expected to be rare.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know what you think.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Mikael
>>>>>>>>>>
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