[PATCH] JDK NUMA Interleaving issue
amith pawar
amith.pawar at gmail.com
Mon Dec 3 06:19:34 UTC 2018
Hi Derek
On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 4:10 AM White, Derek <Derek.White at cavium.com> wrote:
> Hi Amith,
>
>
> Thanks for tackling this!
>
>
> I think that your patch may fix
> https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8205051, although it's probably
> fixing more than that. I was thinking that the problem was related to
> calling " _numa_interleave_memory_v2(start, size, _numa_all_nodes_ptr);",
> and you replaced that call with more specific node sets, which seems better
> to me.
>
>
> You can try the test cases listed in the bug to see if the patch fixes the
> problem.
>
Tested and didn't fix it.
>
> The existing code disables UseNUMA if the process is bound to only one
> node, but it looks like your patch removes this. Is that a correct read of
> the patch, intentional, and/or a good idea?
>
I removed that after testing it with SPECjbb for single node case.
With patch : Enabling/Disabling UseNUMA gives same score.
Without patch: UseNUMA scores 10-12% lesser than without UseNUMA
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Derek
>
>
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> *From:* hotspot-dev <hotspot-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net> on behalf of
> amith pawar <amith.pawar at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 29, 2018 6:08 AM
> *To:* thomas.schatzl at oracle.com
> *Cc:* hotspot-dev at openjdk.java.net; Prakash.Raghavendra at amd.com
> *Subject:* Re: [PATCH] JDK NUMA Interleaving issue
>
> External Email
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> Sorry for the late reply and please check my inline comments below.
>
> On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 5:18 PM Thomas Schatzl <thomas.schatzl at oracle.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Amith,
> >
> > welcome to the OpenJDK community! :)
> >
> Thanks
>
> >
> >
> On Fri, 2018-11-09 at 17:53 +0530, amith pawar wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > The flag UseNUMA (or UseNUMAInterleaving), has to interleave old gen,
> > > S1 and S2 region (if any other ) memory areas on requested Numa nodes
> > > and it should not configure itself to access other Numa nodes. This
> > > issue is observed only when Java is allowed to run on fewer NUMA
> > > nodes than available on the system with numactl membind and
> > > interleave options. Running on all the nodes does not have any
> > > effect. This will cause some applications (objects residing in old
> > > gen and survivor region) to run slower on system with large Numa
> > > nodes.
> > >
> > [... long explanation...]
> >
> > Is it possible to summarize the problem and the changes with the
> > following few lines:
> >
> > "NUMA interleaving of memory of old gen and survivor spaces (for
> > parallel GC) tells the OS to interleave memory across all nodes of a
> > NUMA system. However the VM process may be configured to be limited to
> > run only on a few nodes, which means that large parts of the heap will
> > be located on foreign nodes. This can incurs a large performance
> > penalty.
> >
> > The proposed solution is to tell the OS to interleave memory only
> > across available nodes when enabling NUMA."
> >
> OK. Since, I dont have write access to the defect link so can I request you
> do the same.
>
> >
> > We have had trouble understanding the problem statement and purpose of
> > this patch when triaging (making sure the issue is understandable and
> > can be worked on) as the text is rather technical. Having an easily
> > understandable text also helps reviewers a lot.
> >
>
> > Assuming my summary is appropriate, I have several other unrelated
> > questions:
> >
> > - could you propose a better subject for this work? "JDK NUMA
> > Interleaving issue" seems very generic. Something like "NUMA heap
> > allocation does not respect VM membind/interleave settings" maybe?
> >
> This is also OK.
>
> >
> > - there have been other NUMA related patches from AMD recently, in
> > particular JDK-what is the relation to JDK-8205051? The text there
> > reads awfully similar to this one, but I *think* JDK-8205051 is
> > actually about making sure that the parallel gc eden is not put on
> > inactive nodes.
> > Can you confirm this (talk to your colleague) so that we can fix the
> > description too?
> >
> JDK-8205051 is related to early GC.
> JDK-8189922 specific to membind case where heap was allocated on non
> requested NUMA nodes.
> The proposed patch fixes two following issues
> 1. Similar to JDK-8189922 but for interleave case.
> 2. OLDGen, S1 and S2 memory interleaving is incorrect when run on fewer
> NUMA nodes.
>
>
> > - fyi, we are currently working on NUMA aware memory allocation support
> > for G1 in JEP 345 (JDK-8210473). It may be useful to sync up a bit to
> > not step on each other's toes (see below).
> >
> We are not working anything related to G1. It may effect G1 if
> numa_make_global function is called.
>
> >
> > [... broken patch...]
> >
> > I tried to apply the patch to the jdk/jdk tree, which failed; I then
> > started to manually apply it but stopped after not being able to find
> > the context of some hunks. I do not think this change applies to the
> > latest source tree.
> >
> > Please make sure that the patch applies to the latest jdk/jdk tree with
> > errors. All changes generally must first go into the latest dev tree
> > before you can apply for backporting.
> >
> > Could you please send the patch as attachment (not copy&pasted) to this
> > list and cc me? Then I can create a webrev out of it.
> >
> > I did look a bit over the patch as much as I could (it's very hard
> > trying to review a diff), some comments:
> >
> Sorry. Please check the attached patch.
>
> >
> > - the _numa_interleave_memory_v2 function pointer is never assigned
> > to in the patch in the CR, so it will not be used. Please make sure the
> > patch is complete.
> > Actually it is never defined anywhere, ie. the patch unlikely actually
> > compiles even if I could apply it somewhere.
> >
> > Please avoid frustrating reviewers by sending incomplete patches.
> >
> Sorry again. Faced same issue when copied from the defect link but worked
> for me from the mail. Now i have attached the patch. Can you please update
> defect link with this patch ?
>
> >
> > - I am not sure set_numa_interleave, i.e. the interleaving, should be
> > done without UseNUMAInterleaving enabled. Some collectors may do their
> > own interleaving in the future (JDK-8210473 / JEP-345) so this would
> > massively interfere in how they work. (That issue may be because I am
> > looking at a potentially incomplete diff, so forgive me if the patch
> > already handles this).
> >
> Testing SPECjbb with UseNUMAInterleaving enabled/disabled has no effect
> when java externally invoked in interleave mode. It helps membind case.
>
> >
> > - if some of the actions (interleaving/membind) fail, and it had been
> > requested, it would be nice to print a log message.
> >
> Following two NUMA API's are used and they return nothing. Right now not
> sure which cases to handle. Please suggest
> void numa_tonode_memory(void *start, size_t size, int node);
> void numa_interleave_memory(void *start, size_t size, struct bitmask
> *nodemask);
>
> >
> > Actually it would be nice to print information about e.g. the bitmask
> > anyway in the log so that the user can easily verify that what he
> > specified on the command line has been properly picked up by the VM -
> > instead of looking through the proc filesystem.
> >
> As per the suggestion, patch is updated to print following information.
> [0.001s][info][os] UseNUMA is enabled
> [0.001s][info][os] Java is configured to run in interleave mode
> [0.001s][info][os] Heap will be configured using NUMA memory nodes: 0, 2,
> 3
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Thomas
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Thanks
> Amit Pawar
>
Thanks,
Amit Pawar
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