RFR (S) 8227123: Assertion failure when setting SymbolTableSize larger than 2^17 (131,072)
coleen.phillimore at oracle.com
coleen.phillimore at oracle.com
Thu Jul 25 21:53:28 UTC 2019
After some offline polling of various people, I'm going to withdraw the
UnlockExperimentalOptions change to trueInDebug, and fixed the options test.
http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~coleenp/2019/8227123.02/webrev/index.html
These test changes would have found the original bug.
Thanks,
Coleen
On 7/24/19 9:52 AM, coleen.phillimore at oracle.com wrote:
>
>
> On 7/24/19 9:20 AM, David Holmes wrote:
>> On 24/07/2019 11:04 pm, coleen.phillimore at oracle.com wrote:
>>> On 7/23/19 10:20 PM, David Holmes wrote:
>>>> On 24/07/2019 1:48 am, coleen.phillimore at oracle.com wrote:
>>>>> On 7/23/19 11:30 AM, Daniel D. Daugherty wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/23/19 11:09 AM, coleen.phillimore at oracle.com wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/23/19 9:45 AM, Daniel D. Daugherty wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/23/19 7:03 AM, coleen.phillimore at oracle.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/23/19 12:27 AM, David Holmes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Coleen,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - experimental(bool, UnlockExperimentalVMOptions, false, \
>>>>>>>>>> + experimental(bool, UnlockExperimentalVMOptions,
>>>>>>>>>> trueInDebug, \
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I can't quite convince myself this is harmless nor necessary.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well if it's added, then the option range test would test the
>>>>>>>>> option. Otherwise, I think it's benign. In debug mode, one
>>>>>>>>> would no longer have to specify -XX:+UnlockExperimental
>>>>>>>>> options, just like UnlockDiagnosticVMOptions. The option is
>>>>>>>>> there either way.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mentioning 'UnlockDiagnosticVMOptions' reminds me that some
>>>>>>>> folks think
>>>>>>>> that 'UnlockDiagnosticVMOptions' being 'trueInDebug' can cause
>>>>>>>> bugs in tests
>>>>>>>> that are runnable in all build configs: 'release', 'fastdebug'
>>>>>>>> and 'slowdebug'.
>>>>>>>> Folks use an option in a test that requires
>>>>>>>> '-XX:+UnlockDiagnosticVMOptions',
>>>>>>>> but forget to include it in the test's run statement and we end
>>>>>>>> up with a test failure in 'release' bits.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would prefer that 'UnlockExperimentalVMOptions' did not
>>>>>>>> introduce the same path to failing tests.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I tried to change UnlockDiagnosticVMOptions to be false, and got
>>>>>>> a wall of opposition:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See: https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8153783
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/hotspot-dev/2018-January/029882.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would not say "a wall of opposition". You got almost equal amounts
>>>>>> of "yea" and "nay". I was a "yea" and I have been continuing to
>>>>>> train
>>>>>> my fingers (and my scripts) to do the right thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> You should have seen my slack channel at that time. :) Maybe the
>>>>> "wall" was primarily from a couple of people who strongly objected.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Interestingly, David H was a "nay" on changing
>>>>>> UnlockDiagnosticVMOptions
>>>>>> to be 'false', but appears to be leaning toward "nay" on changing
>>>>>> UnlockExperimentalVMOptions to 'trueInDebug'...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think he's mostly just asking the question. We'll see what he
>>>>> answers later.
>>>>
>>>> Yes I'm just asking the question. I don't think changing this buys
>>>> us much other than "it's now the same as for diagnostic flags".
>>>> Testing these flags can (and probably should) be handled explicitly.
>>>
>>> I disagree. I don't think we should test these flags explicitly
>>> when we have a perfectly good test for all the flags, that should be
>>> enabled. Which is what my change does.
>>
>> Your change only causes the experimental flags to be tested in debug
>> builds. I would argue they should also be tested in product builds,
>> hence the need to be explicit about it.
>
> The same is true for diagnostic options. I'd be surprised if testing
> in release made a difference though, except taking more time.
>
> Coleen
>
>>
>> David
>> -----
>>
>>>>
>>>> I looked back at the discussion on JDK-8153783 (sorry can't recall
>>>> what may have been said in slack) and I'm not sure what my specific
>>>> concern was then. From a testing perspective if you use an
>>>> experimental or diagnostic flag then you should remember to
>>>> explicitly unlock it in the test setup. Not having trueInDebug
>>>> catches when you forget that and only test in a debug build.
>>>
>>> Yes, that was the rationale for making it 'false' rather than
>>> 'trueInDebug'. People were adding tests with a diagnostic option
>>> and it was failing in product mode because the Unlock flag wasn't
>>> present. The more vocal side of the question didn't want to have to
>>> add the Unlock flag for all their day to day local testing. I
>>> assume the same argument can be made for the experimental options.
>>>
>>> It would be good to hear the opinion from someone who uses these
>>> options. This is degenerated into an opinion question, and besides
>>> being able to cleanly test these options, neither one of us uses or
>>> tests experimental options as far as I can tell. I see tests from
>>> the Compiler and GC components. What do other people think?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Coleen
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> David
>>>> -----
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think the same exact arguments should apply to
>>>>>>> UnlockExperimentalVMOptions. I'd like to hear from someone that
>>>>>>> uses experimental options on ZGC or shenandoah, since those have
>>>>>>> the most experimental options.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree that the same arguments apply to
>>>>>> UnlockExperimentalVMOptions.
>>>>>> For consistency's sake if anything, they should be the same.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The reason that I made it trueInDebug is so that the command
>>>>>>> line option range test would test these options. Otherwise a
>>>>>>> more hacky solution could be done, including adding the
>>>>>>> parameter -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions to all the VM option
>>>>>>> range tests. I'd rather not do this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can explain this a bit more? Why would a default value of 'false'
>>>>>> mean that
>>>>>> the command line option range test would not test these options?
>>>>>
>>>>> So the command line option tests do - java -XX:+PrintFlagsRanges
>>>>> -version and collect the flags that come out, parse the ranges,
>>>>> and then run java with each of these flags with the limits of the
>>>>> range (unless the limit is INT_MAX). Some flags are excluded
>>>>> explicitly because they cause problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> The reason that SymbolTableSize escaped the testing, is because it
>>>>> wasn't reported with -XX:+PrintFlagsRanges. You'd need
>>>>> -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions in the java command to gather the
>>>>> flags, and then pass it to all the java commands to test the
>>>>> ranges. It's not that bad, just a bit gross.
>>>>>
>>>>> In any case, I think the experimental flags ranges should be
>>>>> tested. I'm glad/amazed that more didn't fail when I turned it on
>>>>> in my testing.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In any case, I'm fine if you want to move forward with changing the
>>>>>> default of UnlockExperimentalVMOptions to 'trueInDebug'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay, we'll wait to see whether I get a wall of opposition or
>>>>> support. I still think it should be by default the same as
>>>>> UnlockDiagnosticVMoptions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Coleen
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Coleen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Functional change seems fine. Is it worth adding a clarifying
>>>>>>>>>> comment to:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> + range(minimumSymbolTableSize, 16777216ul) \
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> with:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> + range(minimumSymbolTableSize, 16777216ul /* 2^24
>>>>>>>>>> */) \
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let me see if the X macro allows that and I could also add
>>>>>>>>> that to StringTableSize (which is not experimental option).
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Coleen
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 23/07/2019 4:45 am, coleen.phillimore at oracle.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Summary: Increase max size for SymbolTable and fix
>>>>>>>>>>> experimental option range. Make experimental options
>>>>>>>>>>> trueInDebug so they're tested by the command line option
>>>>>>>>>>> testing
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> open webrev at
>>>>>>>>>>> http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~coleenp/2019/8227123.01/webrev
>>>>>>>>>>> bug link https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8227123
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Tested locally with default and -XX:+UseZGC since ZGC has a
>>>>>>>>>>> lot of experimental options. I didn't test with shenanodoah.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I will test with hs-tier1-3 before checking in.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Coleen
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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