RFR 8247808: Move JVMTI strong oops to OopStorage
Zhengyu Gu
zgu at redhat.com
Wed Jul 15 18:35:41 UTC 2020
Hi Coleen,
Shenandoah part looks good.
Thanks,
-Zhengyu
On 7/15/20 11:38 AM, coleen.phillimore at oracle.com wrote:
>
> Hi, This patch has been reviewed and I was waiting for the ability to
> define different OopStorages, but I'd like to fix that in a further
> change after the GC changes have been agreed upon and reviewed. Adding
> a new JVMTI OopStorage in the new mechanism is a smaller change.
>
> open webrev at http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~coleenp/2020/8247808.01/webrev
>
> Retested with tier1-3.
>
> Thanks,
> Coleen
>
>
>
> On 6/18/20 3:48 PM, coleen.phillimore at oracle.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 6/18/20 3:58 AM, Thomas Schatzl wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 18.06.20 03:09, coleen.phillimore at oracle.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/17/20 7:49 PM, David Holmes wrote:
>>>>> Hi Coleen,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 18/06/2020 7:25 am, coleen.phillimore at oracle.com wrote:
>>>>>> Summary: Remove JVMTI oops_do calls from JVMTI and GCs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tested with tier1-3, also built shenandoah to verify shenandoah
>>>>>> changes.
>>>>>>
>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> Kim noticed that G1 and ParallelGC should be processing these roots
>>>> in parallel (with many threads, since OopStorage has that support)
>>>> and he's going to or has filed a bug to fix it. As we add more
>>>> things to OopStorage (see upcoming RFRs), this will become important.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I do not know which exact roots you want to move into OopStorage, but
>>> I would like to mention this concern: with moving everything into a
>>> single OopStorage (i.e. vm_globals in this case), I am worried that
>>> every time important information about the source for these gets lost.
>>>
>>> Which makes it hard to understand from where these oops came from
>>> when there is a performance problem in the "VM Globals" bucket.
>> Hi Thomas,
>>
>> I understand this concern. On the GC list there is a discussion about
>> having the ability to create different strong OopStorages, changing
>> the OopStorage code to process these roots and report statistics in
>> parallel (and/or concurrent), and not having to cascade the code
>> through all the GCs.
>>
>> I'm going to hold this change until this discussion is complete and
>> move the JVMTI and services/management oops_do oops into a different
>> OopStorage that can make use of this. Then you'll have your
>> statistics and we won't have classes needing traversal with oops_do.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Coleen
>>
>>>
>>> This may not apply to JVMTI oops, but others may occasionally have a
>>> significant amount of oops where it would be very interesting to know
>>> from where a particular slowdown comes from.
>>>
>>> So I would prefer keep some accounting here.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Thomas
>>
>
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