RFR: JDK-8320005 : Allow loading of shared objects with .a extension on AIX [v7]
Suchismith Roy
sroy at openjdk.org
Tue Jan 23 05:34:32 UTC 2024
On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 10:01:04 GMT, Thomas Stuefe <stuefe at openjdk.org> wrote:
>>> > > What happens if we accidentally attempt to load a "real" static library, which is also named *.a? Would dlopen() then crash? What would happen?
>>>
>>> > I don't think the problem is with *.a . They would load as the default behaviour of the dlopen. It is only when the dlopen fails for *.so , we give another chance to check for .a file with the same name.
>>>
>>> No, what I meant, and what must be clarified before going forward with this solution, is the following:
>>>
>>> * is _every_ `*.a` object on AIX loadable with `dlopen`, and will the result be the same as when loading a `*.so` object
>>> * or, if we present arbitrary `*.a` files to dlopen, is there a chance for dlopen to crash or misbehave.
>>>
>>> Reason is that I was under the impression that *.a libraries are static libraries and cannot be loaded dynamically. This is what you now try to do.
>>> If we cannot safely answer this question, I would opt for a more narrow solution by hard-wiring known alternative names. So, do the second *.a attempt only for your `ibm_16_am.a` which you know works. That could also be done in a reasonably maintainable manner.
>>>
>> In AIX, both static and dynamic libraries have *.a extension. And AIX also supports *.so files.Bascially shared objects in AIX have both *.a and *.so extension. Hence we need to implement this logic.
>> If we try loading a static archive specifically ,how the dlopen would behave , that is something probably @JoKern65 can answer ?
>>
>>
>>> > > Does this really have to be handled in the OpenJDK? What does J9 on AIX do? Could this be done in a simpler way outside OpenJDK, e.g. by providing an *.so variant of the library in question? Where does this library come from?
>>>
>>> > I am not sure how J9 handles this. I would have to consult .
>>>
>>> J9 is Open Source, can't you just look? :)
>>
>> I did try comparing the file structures, and i do not see a similar file structure over there.
>> I am unable to find the jvmTiAgent code and also os_aix file. So i am not sure which functions over there are doing the same functionality. You have any suggestion on how i can check and correlate ?
>>>
>>> > However as per current observation, this issue does not show up on Semuru. This issue is only happening on Adoptium. The team that release these file has always released *.a files which work fine for Semuru.
>>>
>>> I don't know what Semuru is. What is the context, is that a different VM? Also OpenJDK? J9 derived?
>>
>>
>> Semuru is J9 derived.
>
>> > > > What happens if we accidentally attempt to load a "real" static library, which is also named *.a? Would dlopen() then crash? What would happen?
>> >
>> >
>> > > I don't think the problem is with *.a . They would load as the default behaviour of the dlopen. It is only when the dlopen fails for *.so , we give another chance to check for .a file with the same name.
>> >
>> >
>> > No, what I meant, and what must be clarified before going forward with this solution, is the following:
>> >
>> > * is _every_ `*.a` object on AIX loadable with `dlopen`, and will the result be the same as when loading a `*.so` object
>> > * or, if we present arbitrary `*.a` files to dlopen, is there a chance for dlopen to crash or misbehave.
>> >
>> > Reason is that I was under the impression that *.a libraries are static libraries and cannot be loaded dynamically. This is what you now try to do.
>> > If we cannot safely answer this question, I would opt for a more narrow solution by hard-wiring known alternative names. So, do the second *.a attempt only for your `ibm_16_am.a` which you know works. That could also be done in a reasonably maintainable manner.
>>
>> In AIX, both static and dynamic libraries have *.a extension. And AIX also supports *.so files.Bascially shared objects in AIX have both *.a and *.so extension. Hence we need to implement this logic. If we try loading a static archive specifically ,how the dlopen would behave , that is something probably @JoKern65 can answer ?
>
> Rather, this is a question you have to ask your collegues at IBM that develop the AIX libc.
>
> Since AIX libc is not open source, we cannot look for ourselves, nor can Joachim (her works at SAP).
>
>>
>> > > > Does this really have to be handled in the OpenJDK? What does J9 on AIX do? Could this be done in a simpler way outside OpenJDK, e.g. by providing an *.so variant of the library in question? Where does this library come from?
>> >
>> >
>> > > I am not sure how J9 handles this. I would have to consult .
>> >
>> >
>> > J9 is Open Source, can't you just look? :)
>>
>> I did try comparing the file structures, and i do not see a similar file structure over there. I am unable to find the jvmTiAgent code and also os_aix file. So i am not sure which functions over there are doing the same functionality. You have any suggestion on how i can check and correlate ?
>
> Someone must implement LoadLibrary. Try looking for places where dlopen() is called.
>
>>
>> > > However as per current observation, this issue does ...
Hi @tstuefe
Any further clarifications ,required for this change ?
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PR Comment: https://git.openjdk.org/jdk/pull/16604#issuecomment-1905320564
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