High sys time in G1 GC logs and questions about big heap tuning
Hector Caballero
hector.caballero at ericsson.com
Fri Oct 20 18:49:28 UTC 2017
Hi all,
First, thanks to all for your help. We're confirming about TPH with our
sysadmins, but it is by default enabled on RHEL 6 as we understand.
Unfortunately, this log was collected when the traffic was low for our
standards, but we saw that the live set was going up and old generation
peaks at about 180GB when traffic is full.
Will try your suggestion and will post again with the results if you're
OK with this.
Thanks again
On 2017-10-20 02:34 PM, Kirk Pepperdine wrote:
> Hi Hector,
>
> This log lit up our CPU analytic. Out of 3042 GC pause events, kernel
> times exceeded User times 25 times and GC threads collected an
> abnormal amount of kernel time 352 times.
> There could be a number of reasons for this. If the I/O channels are
> overloaded then writing perf data to temp could result in kernel time
> being accumulated. Transparent Huge Pages is also a common issue.
> Given the distribution of the problem, this could be likely.
>
> The heap appears to be large, maybe even too large. That said, the
> live set is increasing over time. However, the runtime isn’t long
> enough to say if this is a problem or not.
>
> The real issue allocation rates are insanely high. To top that off,
> there is a problem with promotions that suggest young is being resized
> too small. I don’t see the run up in memory that you were seeing but
> my belief is that the high allocation rate with the undersized young
> would be responsible for this. You survive because IHOP at 15% means
> your making up for the small young by running more mixed collections.
> This is all going to add to overhead.
>
> The dominating cost in the collection is consistently object copy. If
> set the min size of young to a larger value you might be able to
> reduce the overall overhead by simply reducing the volume of data
> being prematurely promotion to tenured. The big win will come with a
> reduction in allocation rates.
>
> This is a start.
>
> Kind regards,
> Kirk Pepperdine
>
>
>
>> On Oct 20, 2017, at 5:43 PM, Hector Caballero
>> <hector.caballero at ericsson.com
>> <mailto:hector.caballero at ericsson.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We've been troubleshooting a big traffic application for some time
>> now and have discovered GC times are impacting performance. Next
>> paragraph just to give some context:
>>
>> We are using G1 GC with JDK 8u131 on a RHEL 6 server with latest
>> patches and these JVM parameters:
>>
>> javaOptions = -Xms128g
>> javaOptions = -Xmx128g
>> javaOptions = -XX:MetaspaceSize=128m
>> javaOptions = -XX:+UseG1GC
>> javaOptions = -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=15
>> javaOptions = -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=200
>> javaOptions = -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled
>> javaOptions = -XX:SoftRefLRUPolicyMSPerMB=0
>> javaOptions = -XX:ParallelGCThreads=24
>> javaOptions = -XX:+PrintGCDetails
>> javaOptions = -XX:+PrintGCDateStamps
>> javaOptions = -XX:+PrintTenuringDistribution
>> javaOptions = -XX:+PrintAdaptiveSizePolicy
>> javaOptions = -XX:+PrintReferenceGC
>> javaOptions = -XX:+UnlockDiagnosticVMOptions
>> javaOptions = -XX:+G1SummarizeRSetStats
>> javaOptions =
>> -Xloggc:/opt/gerrit/review_site/logs/jvm/jvm_gc-%t.log
>> javaOptions = -XX:+UseGCLogFileRotation
>> javaOptions = -XX:GCLogFileSize=40M
>> javaOptions = -XX:NumberOfGCLogFiles=20
>> javaOptions = -Djava.util.Arrays.useLegacyMergeSort=true
>>
>> and the system was stable. Some precision: The IHOP value was reduced
>> as a way to avoid having full GCs that were killing us and it worked
>> well for this purpose. The only problem we saw with these parameters
>> was a bit of impact on throughput but, as said, the system was still
>> very usable.
>>
>> After upgrading the application to latest version, the memory pattern
>> changed dramatically and full GCs went back making the application
>> unusable. The main change we saw was a very fast increase in old
>> generation (up to 115GB) while young generation kept low. As an
>> urgent measure, the system memory was upgraded and the heap size put
>> to 256GB with which there was a dramatic improvement in application
>> performance but we're still seeing a big regression in some
>> operations that are taking 3-4 times more. We understand we need to
>> look at the code itself (this application is an open source one) to
>> see how object creation has changed, but we have a lot of pressure of
>> users and management to solve this right now so changes in code need
>> to wait a bit. Our goal right now is to make the application as
>> usable as possible tuning memory usage to give us a bit of room to
>> start looking at the code.
>>
>> The increase in heap size led to very low throughput, around 70%. In
>> order to try to improve it, we decided to relax pause goal to 300ms.
>> Given doing this didn't affect much the application (at least it was
>> not worse) and things improved a bit but not enough. Next we decided
>> to try to start collecting a bit later to reduce the number of mixed
>> collections so we increase IHOP to 18% (very modest modification).
>> After that, looking at the GC logs we saw that, without having full
>> GCs, there are young collections taking long time (up to a minute in
>> a case). In some of those cases, the sys time was a lot higher than
>> the user time, which is kind of strange and we haven't found much
>> information about the causes of this but we see is affecting us a lot:
>>
>> Timestamp User Time (secs) Sys Time (secs) Real Time (secs)
>> 2017-10-20T14:19:41 1.68 9.5 0.48
>> 2017-10-20T14:19:59 2.26 9.56 0.56
>> 2017-10-20T14:34:45 12.26 14.01 1.23
>> 2017-10-20T15:26:33 9.82 31.73 2.39
>> 2017-10-20T15:26:37 15.68 46.47 3.19
>> 2017-10-20T15:26:41 10.11 39.64 2.44
>> 2017-10-20T15:28:18 15.53 45.14 3.08
>> 2017-10-20T15:29:01 5.4 41.63 2.43
>> 2017-10-20T15:29:05 74.69 93.91 11.51
>> 2017-10-20T15:29:18 80.67 137.35 18.38
>> 2017-10-20T15:30:55 19.65 23.99 2.16
>> 2017-10-20T15:31:03 11.03 29.28 1.82
>> 2017-10-20T15:31:28 4.88 8.44 0.77
>> 2017-10-20T15:31:30 1.58 59.97 3.21
>> 2017-10-20T15:31:35 57.13 135.82 14.96
>> 2017-10-20T15:32:23 25.46 150.54 14.79
>> 2017-10-20T15:33:11 87.92 112.98 16.46
>> 2017-10-20T15:35:13 17.99 32.15 2.33
>> 2017-10-20T15:35:54 154.7 191.82 29.67
>>
>> Any hints here?
>>
>> Second question is about general tuning for this big heap as seems
>> we're not going well so far. We've been reading a lot of
>> documentation about the tuning of this algorithm and thought we had a
>> fairly acceptable understanding of the process but this has proven
>> wrong as some of our tunings (as increasing the IHOP to bigger values
>> and increasing the number of parallel threads) haven't show
>> improvement and rather regressions in some cases, as causing longer
>> young collections or dropping in throughput. I'm joining a chunk of
>> the log so you can have a quick look if possible and probably point
>> to some ideas.
>>
>> Thanks a lot,
>>
>> Hector Caballero
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <jvm_gc-2017-10-20_14-19-14.log.0.current.gz>
>
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