RFR (M): 8212657: Implementation of JDK-8204089 Timely Reduce Unused Committed Memory
Thomas Schatzl
thomas.schatzl at oracle.com
Thu Nov 15 13:39:56 UTC 2018
Hi Sunny,
On Wed, 2018-11-14 at 12:07 +0100, Thomas Schatzl wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, 2018-11-14 at 10:49 +0000, Sunny Chan, CLSA wrote:
> > I think my main concern is that this is a departure from the norm
> > in the VM. The use of "peridodic gc" reminds me of the RMI DGC
> > hourly
>
> Both Shenandoah and ZGC have some sort of periodic GC. Their GC
> pauses are of course much lower.
>
> > Full GC saga where it causes random pauses that is not known and
> > eventually everyone pretty much disabled it by default. Although it
> > is a concurrent cycle and the impact is supposedly small, I suspect
> > there will be other unintended consequences and effects that would
> > be discovered when we move to production. However I can see that
> > for a lot of docker/cloud workload this would be a beneficial.
>
> Thank you for the historical perspective. Maybe it is some case of
> good intentions cause havoc, what do others think?
>
> We can disable these periodic GCs by default for now and look at the
> adoption rate. It is also opt-in for J9.
I asked around within the team and there is a slight preference to
making the periodic GCs opt-in (setting G1PeriodicGCInterval to 0).
This also saves us to think of a good value for that.
I will update the JEP and CSR as soon there is some consensus about
this and actually how to determine when such a GC should be started.
The updated webrev link will be sent out in response to StefanJ's
review comments.
Thanks,
Thomas
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