RFR(S) 8225813: Shenandoah: Obsolete ShenandoahSuspendibleWorkers flag, as suspendible workers are required
Roman Kennke
rkennke at redhat.com
Sun Jun 16 19:20:45 UTC 2019
BTW, *if* we claim CLDs in heap-iteration we must change/fix it, because
it'd be a bug: if heap-iteration would happen during marking, and it
claims all the CLDs, then subsequent marking would fail to mark through
those CLDs.
Also, we should not neglect Traversal GC too much. We want to stabilize
Traversal GC and get it to feature parity with conc-mark-GC. Ideally we
would mirror whatever we do in conc-mark to traversal GC ASAP. It's ok
to let it slip for a little now, I will take care of it when I'm back
from PTO.
Roman
> On 6/16/19 7:27 AM, Roman Kennke wrote:
>> Hi Zhengyu,
>>
>> So as far as I can see, we are looking at 2 potential issues:
>>
>> - Non-GC safepoint work might use our GC workers. This would only
>> possibly be heap-iteration, and as far as I remember, heap-iteration is
>> single-threaded and uses the VMThread. Besides: if this would happen,
>> we'd already have the problem. I don't think this is the case.
>> (Safepoint cleanup has this problem, and we use a separate thread pool
>> for precisely this reason.)
>
> Right. It is single-threaded.
>
>>
>> - Non-GC safepoint work needs to look at GC roots, and concurrent
>> processing of GC roots might conflict with that.
>>
>> As far as I see it, this problem could also be solved by employing the
>> correct barriers. I believe this only affects heap-iteration. So when
>> heap-iteration scans the GC roots (during conc-evac), it needs to do the
>> LRB to avoid exposing from-space-objects in the iteration. Later on,
>> when we also want to do concurrent cleanup, it also needs to filter
>> unreachable objects by not seeding the iteration with objects that are
>> unreachable (as per the marking bitmap, not the aux bitmap!).
>>
> Our current solution is to use the same roots for heap iteration, as
> current GC cycle, so both see the same live object graph.
>
> At this phase, the problems I saw, I think, can be solved with
> additional cares to avoid suspending workers, e.g. not clear claimed
> flag for CLDG and using _claim_none to for heap iteration, etc. but I
> don't think it worth the efforts.
>
> This change is inavoidable for concurrent class unloading and concurrent
> code root processing:
>
> - SystemDictionary::do_unloading(), by design, can not run through
> safepoints (JDK-8222223),
>
> - Some CLDG related VM operations, such as ClassLoaderStatsOperation and
> ClassLoaderHierarchyOperation are no longer safe, if class unloading run
> through them.
>
> - I suspect some IC related also no longer safe.
>
> -Zhengyu
>
>
>
>
>> I might be missing something there?
>>
>> The reason why I'm looking at avoiding stopping GC threads at safepoints
>> is that it may introduce additional latencies when bringing Java threads
>> to (non-GC) safepoints like biased locking or deopt, by having them wait
>> for GC work (especially when we have non-interruptible not-quite-short
>> GC work like GC roots processing).
>>
>> Roman
>>
>>> On 6/15/19 9:26 PM, Zhengyu Gu wrote:
>>>> On 6/15/19 3:35 PM, Roman Kennke wrote:
>>>>> Can you give a little bit of explanation why workers need to be
>>>>> suspended at safepoints for concurrent root processing?
>>>>
>>>> Concurrent processing uses workers and safepoint parallel task also
>>>> utilizes workers, and shenandoah shares workers, so they can not
>>>> overlap.
>>>
>>> Should be more articulate. I don't mean GC safepoint parallel tasks,
>>> which can not overlap. But the tasks, such as, heap iteration that might
>>> utilize workers.
>>>
>>> Also, heap iteration walks CLDG at a safepoint, that may interfere CLDG
>>> walking during concurrent CLDG evacuation.
>>>
>>> -Zhengyu
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Zhengyu
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Other than that, the patch looks good.
>>>>>
>>>>> Roman
>>>>>
>>>>>> Please review this patch that makes suspendible workers required,
>>>>>> instead of optional, and obsoletes the corresponding flag.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Suspendible workers are required for concurrent root processing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bug: https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8225813
>>>>>> Webrev:
>>>>>> http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~zgu/JDK-8225813/webrev.00/index.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Test:
>>>>>> hotspot_gc_shenandoah (fastdebug and release)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Zhengyu
>>>>>
>>
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