Adaptable Heap Sizing for G1 GC
Erik Osterlund
erik.osterlund at oracle.com
Thu Jun 13 11:17:52 UTC 2024
Hi Jonathan,
I’m currently working on automatic heap sizing for ZGC. My vision is that users shouldn’t have to set heap sizes.
Would love to see that in G1 as well. What you are describing sounds like it would do something similar.
Having said that, it seems like the concrete changes you are proposing for OpenJDK, would not actually
yield automatic heap sizing for the user. By the sound of it, you would need your special launcher
with an extra thread that contains the actual heap sizing policy. The proposed JVM changes are mostly for
being *able* to change the heap sizing policies externally, but without any policy shipped that actually
changes it.
While having a pluggable policy is great because anyone can put in their own favourite policy, there
is also an obvious disadvantage that 99.9% of deployments won’t have any special launcher or
supplier of an external heap sizing policy, or even know what we are talking about. Therefore,
unless we also ship the policies, I unfortunately think that limits the usefulness of the feature.
If, however, a policy was shipped so the heap can be sized automatically, I think that would make it
much more widely useful.
In my automatic heap sizing work, the goal is to ship both the mechanisms and the policies needed
to automatically size (and resize) the heap, adapting to changing load and environments. Are you
open to the idea of shipping a policy that actually changes the heap size as well? It would be great
to be aligned on this, I think.
Thanks,
/Erik
On 13 Jun 2024, at 01:32, Jonathan Joo <jonathanjoo at google.com> wrote:
Hello hotspot-dev and hotspot-gc-dev,
I'd like to reopen discussion on Adaptable Heap Sizing (AHS) for the G1 Garbage Collector, since we now have some time to dedicate to bringing this effort to the OpenJDK Community. Please see https://mail.openjdk.org/pipermail/hotspot-gc-dev/2022-September/040096.html for the original thread.
The bullet points contained in the above link are still largely the same, and we have made significant improvements to the service over the past few years, and found success deploying it broadly across jobs internally. Now that we feel the feature has matured, we'd like to introduce it to the OpenJDK community in hopes that it can be adopted for broader use.
In short - the goal of Adaptable Heap Sizing is to improve memory usage and reduce OOMs for Java applications, especially those deployed in containerized environments. The key insights are as follows:
1.
Applications with low memory requirements but configured with high RAM often use RAM unnecessarily. We can utilize GC CPU overhead metrics to help guide heap sizing, allowing for RAM savings in these scenarios.
2.
For Java applications running in containers, we can bound Java heap usage based on our knowledge of the current container memory usage as well as the current container size, to prevent container OOMs.
The implementation of AHS currently involves some fairly lightweight changes to the JVM, through the introduction of two new manageable flags. They are essentially the same as these two (open feature requests):
*
https://bugs.openjdk.org/browse/JDK-8236073
*
https://bugs.openjdk.org/browse/JDK-8204088
In addition, we have a separate thread (outside of the JVM, in our custom Java launcher) which reads in GC CPU overhead data and container information, and calculates appropriate values for these two flags. We call this the AHS worker thread, and this thread updates frequently (currently every second). The vast majority of the AHS logic is in this worker thread - the introduction of the new JVM flags above simply gives AHS a way to tune GC heuristics given this additional information.
Thomas Schatzl mentioned there is a similar-sounding effort going on in ZGC<https://bugs.openjdk.org/browse/JDK-8329758>, and also there were folks outside of Google who expressed interest in this project, so I think it is an appropriate time to discuss this again on an open forum. Given the positive results we've had deploying AHS internally at Google, we feel this is a valuable feature to the broader Java community that should be able to be leveraged by all to achieve more stable and efficient Java heap behavior 🙂
I'd appreciate hearing peoples' thoughts on this. Thank you!
~ Jonathan
(P.S. For more information, a talk given about this project can be viewed here<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOt4vOkk49k>, though it is somewhat dated.)
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